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Post by thomas on Nov 17, 2024 9:18:00 GMT
you do understand if you have a wage freeze , you are worse off , not better off ? Your wage remains the same , while the cost of everything rises around you , ie you are worse off? ....and you have the cheek to imply we are not understanding you when you write vague gibberish like that? You clearly don't understand that paying off debt, ie a mortgage, leaves one better off even at the same wage.
And that bills going down vs this time last year, leaves one better off even at the same wage.
It works the same in business: You can improve profitability by either selling more/charging more or by reducing costs.
Both Andy and I have reduced our costs vs this time last year.
I know you don't like it, but it's a fact.
I clearly do understand how paying off debts , whether it's a mortgage or car loan can make one better off . The question I originally asked Andrew , and his answers are self explanatory. If paying off the mortgage is what made Andrew better off ,(which you are now focusing on ) why mention energy costs ,and a wage freeze? Do you know any sensible reasonable person who would do so? All he had to do was say Thomas, ive paid off my mortgage , so im better off. That would have been the fucking end of it. Jesus Christ. As for the absolute bollocks you are talking about your energy bill , im still not buying that horsehit either. |
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Post by thomas on Nov 17, 2024 9:19:16 GMT
you do understand if you have a wage freeze , you are worse off , not better off ? Your wage remains the same , while the cost of everything rises around you , ie you are worse off? ....and you have the cheek to imply we are not understanding you when you write vague gibberish like that?
I know you don't like it, but it's a fact.
what I dont like is dishonest people , and bullshitters. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 17, 2024 9:20:10 GMT
I know you don't like it, but it's a fact.
what I dont like is dishonest people , and bullshitters. Well stop doing it then. |
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Post by thomas on Nov 17, 2024 9:23:04 GMT
what I dont like is dishonest people , and bullshitters. Well stop doing it then. where? im not the one claiming im better off with a wage freeze , or my energy bill has went up less than the rate of inflation. in a cost of living crises and an energy crises , which doesn't just affect much of Europe , but especially in the uk where various forum posters have posted the uk is now paying highest energy costs In the developed world. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 17, 2024 9:28:45 GMT
where? im not the one claiming im better off with a wage freeze , or my energy bill has went up less than the rate of inflation. in a cost of living crises and an energy crises , which doesn't just affect much of Europe , but especially in the uk where various forum posters have posted the uk is now paying highest energy costs In the developed world. You keep claiming that Andrew is lying when he isn't.
And I know that because I'm in a similar position. And neither has anything to do with the current government one way or the other.
And neither of us have claimed otherwise.
I don't know why you feel so threatened by that.
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Post by thomas on Nov 17, 2024 9:35:41 GMT
where? im not the one claiming im better off with a wage freeze , or my energy bill has went up less than the rate of inflation. in a cost of living crises and an energy crises , which doesn't just affect much of Europe , but especially in the uk where various forum posters have posted the uk is now paying highest energy costs In the developed world. You keep claiming that Andrew is lying when he isn't.
And I know that because I'm in a similar position. And neither has anything to do with the current government one way or the other.
And neither of us have claimed otherwise.
I don't know why you feel so threatened by that.
stop diverting onto everything but the consistent point im making. When asked how Andrew was better off , than this time last year , he gave three reasons. One is intrinsically linked to government policy , energy , one his employer , (which we now know hasn't made him better off) and one done off his own back . I dont feel threatened at all. This is a silly internet forum , where we have loonies telling us all sorts of horsehsit on a daily basis. It's comedy entertainment . In my opinion , Andrew was simply trying to create a feel good factor in the thread about how he is better off under labour than he was last year under the tories. That in itself is fucking comedy gold. Im just surprised you feel the need to hold a left wingers hand during this thread ,while making yourself look silly to the majority in the process. Never in my fucking life have I heard someone give a wage freeze as a reason why they are better off. never. I even qualified it with him during the course of the thread , because his answer was so stupidly comic and vague , I thought he meant he had a wage freeze last year , and it had now been lifted. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 17, 2024 9:38:14 GMT
You keep claiming that Andrew is lying when he isn't.
And I know that because I'm in a similar position. And neither has anything to do with the current government one way or the other.
And neither of us have claimed otherwise.
I don't know why you feel so threatened by that.
stop diverting onto everything but the consistent point im making. When asked how Andrew was better off , than this time last year , he gave three reasons. One is intrinsically linked to government policy , energy , one his employer , (which we now know hasn't made him better off) and one done off his own back . I dont feel threatened at all. This is a silly internet forum , where we have loonies telling us all sorts of horsehsit on a daily basis. It's comedy entertainment . In my opinion , Andrew was simply trying to create a feel good factor in the thread about how he is better off under labour than he was last year under the tories. That in itself is fucking comedy gold. Im just surprised you feel the need to hold a left wingers hand during this thread ,while making yourself look silly to the majority in the process. Never in my fucking life have I heard someone give a wage freeze as a reason why they are better off. never. I even qualified it with him during the course of the thread , because his answer was so stupidly comic and vague , I thought he meant he had a wage freeze last year , and it had now been lifted. But does he get to work 4 days instead of 5 or still in other words get paid by the state 100% for now doing 80%. |
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Post by thomas on Nov 17, 2024 9:43:37 GMT
stop diverting onto everything but the consistent point im making. When asked how Andrew was better off , than this time last year , he gave three reasons. One is intrinsically linked to government policy , energy , one his employer , (which we now know hasn't made him better off) and one done off his own back . I dont feel threatened at all. This is a silly internet forum , where we have loonies telling us all sorts of horsehsit on a daily basis. It's comedy entertainment . In my opinion , Andrew was simply trying to create a feel good factor in the thread about how he is better off under labour than he was last year under the tories. That in itself is fucking comedy gold. Im just surprised you feel the need to hold a left wingers hand during this thread ,while making yourself look silly to the majority in the process. Never in my fucking life have I heard someone give a wage freeze as a reason why they are better off. never. I even qualified it with him during the course of the thread , because his answer was so stupidly comic and vague , I thought he meant he had a wage freeze last year , and it had now been lifted. But does he get to work 4 days instead of 5 or still in other words get paid by the state 100% for now doing 80%. how the other half live sheepwash . Us boys who work in the private sector dont have such luxury..... |
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 17, 2024 9:49:28 GMT
In my opinion , Andrew was simply trying to create a feel good factor in the thread about how he is better off under labour than he was last year under the tories. You're opinion is wrong. I specifically said that my being better off was not to do with the government. Either government. That was the while point of my original reply to OM. Quite how you've interpreted that as me saying I'm better off under Labour, I've no idea. Indeed, when you raised that previously I specifically addressed it and said that the budget hadn't made any difference to my finances. I don't know how clear I can be on the point? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 17, 2024 9:50:11 GMT
stop diverting onto everything but the consistent point im making. When asked how Andrew was better off , than this time last year , he gave three reasons. One is intrinsically linked to government policy , energy , one his employer , (which we now know hasn't made him better off) and one done off his own back . I dont feel threatened at all. This is a silly internet forum , where we have loonies telling us all sorts of horsehsit on a daily basis. It's comedy entertainment . In my opinion , Andrew was simply trying to create a feel good factor in the thread about how he is better off under labour than he was last year under the tories. That in itself is fucking comedy gold. Im just surprised you feel the need to hold a left wingers hand during this thread ,while making yourself look silly to the majority in the process. Never in my fucking life have I heard someone give a wage freeze as a reason why they are better off. never. I even qualified it with him during the course of the thread , because his answer was so stupidly comic and vague , I thought he meant he had a wage freeze last year , and it had now been lifted. But does he get to work 4 days instead of 5 or still in other words get paid by the state 100% for now doing 80%. No, I don't. You just made that up. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 17, 2024 9:51:21 GMT
But does he get to work 4 days instead of 5 or still in other words get paid by the state 100% for now doing 80%. No, I don't. You just made that up. No I didn't the government did. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 17, 2024 9:52:34 GMT
stop diverting onto everything but the consistent point im making. When asked how Andrew was better off , than this time last year , he gave three reasons. One is intrinsically linked to government policy , energy , one his employer , (which we now know hasn't made him better off) and one done off his own back . I dont feel threatened at all. This is a silly internet forum , where we have loonies telling us all sorts of horsehsit on a daily basis. It's comedy entertainment . In my opinion , Andrew was simply trying to create a feel good factor in the thread about how he is better off under labour than he was last year under the tories. That in itself is fucking comedy gold. Im just surprised you feel the need to hold a left wingers hand during this thread ,while making yourself look silly to the majority in the process. Never in my fucking life have I heard someone give a wage freeze as a reason why they are better off. never. I even qualified it with him during the course of the thread , because his answer was so stupidly comic and vague , I thought he meant he had a wage freeze last year , and it had now been lifted. Well anyway... Based upon your assertions, I decided to check my bank statements and I reproduce the relevant sections here:  As you can see, I am paying less than I was at the same time last year. As is Andrew. So you are factually incorrect. And I rest my case.  |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 17, 2024 9:53:45 GMT
But does he get to work 4 days instead of 5 or still in other words get paid by the state 100% for now doing 80%. No, I don't. You just made that up. The same as he did with the rest of his spurious posts.  |
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Post by thomas on Nov 17, 2024 9:54:46 GMT
In my opinion , Andrew was simply trying to create a feel good factor in the thread about how he is better off under labour than he was last year under the tories. You're opinion is wrong. I specifically said that my being better off was not to do with the government. Either government. That was the while point of my original reply to OM. Quite how you've interpreted that as me saying I'm better off under Labour, I've no idea. Indeed, when you raised that previously I specifically addressed it and said that the budget hadn't made any difference to my finances. I don't know how clear I can be on the point? I appreciate you want to keep avoiding the bit about how a wage freeze has made you better off , but I stand by my opinion that this is nothing more than another bout of Andrews daily Labour Party turd polishing , and how you want to create a little bit of feel good factor. Here's another example.... ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/thread/8703/starmer-deports-10-000-migrants |
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Post by thomas on Nov 17, 2024 9:57:42 GMT
stop diverting onto everything but the consistent point im making. When asked how Andrew was better off , than this time last year , he gave three reasons. One is intrinsically linked to government policy , energy , one his employer , (which we now know hasn't made him better off) and one done off his own back . I dont feel threatened at all. This is a silly internet forum , where we have loonies telling us all sorts of horsehsit on a daily basis. It's comedy entertainment . In my opinion , Andrew was simply trying to create a feel good factor in the thread about how he is better off under labour than he was last year under the tories. That in itself is fucking comedy gold. Im just surprised you feel the need to hold a left wingers hand during this thread ,while making yourself look silly to the majority in the process. Never in my fucking life have I heard someone give a wage freeze as a reason why they are better off. never. I even qualified it with him during the course of the thread , because his answer was so stupidly comic and vague , I thought he meant he had a wage freeze last year , and it had now been lifted. Well anyway... Based upon your assertions, I decided to check my bank statements and I reproduce the relevant sections here: As you can see, I am paying less than I was at the same time last year. As is Andrew. So you are factually incorrect. And I rest my case. I call it horseshit. You were paying dual fuel £2880 per annum in 2019 , which is way above average , but are now paying less than the cost of inflation on that above average 2019 bill? during an energy crises? lol. The only two cunts in Europe feeling "better" about their energy bills , and they happen to be on this forum. The mind boggles . |
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