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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2024 10:33:59 GMT
Borgr0, in normal circs I would agree that it's most unlikely that Reform UK would be a threat to the government. But after five years of this government I have every expectation that the vast majority of people in this once great country will be screaming out for change. They've tried the Tories, they've tried Labour and look at the situation we're in now let alone in five years time. I think Reform UK are in a very good position. Maybe true, but their polling at the moment indicates they won't win in 5 years, so give it 10 at best I'd say Wasn't that Scott Morrisons's govt who introduced it? It was a pifling ammount to pay. The UK spends nearly that amount each week on hotels for illegals. And no it didn't stop it Australia still would use it today if they were required to do so.. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2024 10:36:12 GMT
Whoever wrote the article agrees with your assessment of the RNs role/responsibilities, but the dozens of comments below the line indicate that actual vets - as opposed to hand-wringing liberal journos - think otherwise. Indeed, and a lot of veterans also oppose the idea in the comments and are battling each other from what I read I often used to read arrse.co.uk just for the laughs and the interesting commentary, they're surprisingly a large mix of all different political factions, it shouldn't really be a surprise I guess. They are well intentioned whatever political faction they come from My wife is ex US Army Thank her for her service from Devon... |
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Post by honestjohn on Nov 12, 2024 11:12:09 GMT
He appears to be talking of resurrecting the Rwanda planThere's no proof he's invited any more illegals and has tried to reinstate the barges and Rwanda plan Thats been stollen by the krouts...
What kinda of message is the twat sending out to illegals when he states they can apply for asylum? Grade A comedy. 3.5 million doesn't go very far these days. It buys 4 flats in London. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2024 11:13:56 GMT
Thats been stollen by the krouts...
What kinda of message is the twat sending out to illegals when he states they can apply for asylum? Grade A comedy. 3.5 million doesn't go very far these days. It buys 4 flats in London. Exactly John. Its just a drop in the ocean. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 12, 2024 11:51:48 GMT
The Rwanda plan wasn't even out of the blocks, but thanks to constant left wing opposition from left wing lawyers, people like Starmer, and of course the election result was a fly in the ointment, it was destined to fail. However, in the light of Germany Austria and probably others looking favourably at a Rwanda plan, I wonder how stupid Starmer feels now. As for the antiquated ECHR, and Blairs unnecessary HRA, we should withdraw and repeal, immediately. I know it's never going to happen under this minority appeasing socialist government, but it will happen in the future. If it doesn't I envisage mass civil disorder because people in this country are sick of being ignored. For that you'd need to elect Reform UK most probably, that's not on the cards for a while, they probably won't win in 5 years either The Rwanda plan didn't deport many people IIRC, it was tried In exactly the same way that the election of two BNP MEPs made Gordon Brown and Phil Woolas spout BNP policy as their own, we don't need 'the Rwanda pilicy' to work Me only need the rubber boat riders to be SO shit scared of it they apply for asylum in France, and then use our UNHCR treaty that we've adhered to since bloody forever to get in here as genuine asylum seekers being resettled by the UN and not bloody criminal invaders. |
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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 12:21:07 GMT
Thats been stollen by the krouts...
What kinda of message is the twat sending out to illegals when he states they can apply for asylum? Grade A comedy. sorry just read this thread . That is quality.  I hear ze fatherland is telling germans to stock up on cheese and sausages due to the current energy crises. Herr sholtz is calling it ze Wurst Kase scenario. |
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Post by borgr0 on Nov 12, 2024 23:45:50 GMT
Maybe true, but their polling at the moment indicates they won't win in 5 years, so give it 10 at best I'd say Wasn't that Scott Morrisons's govt who introduced it? It was a pifling ammount to pay. The UK spends nearly that amount each week on hotels for illegals. And no it didn't stop it Australia still would use it today if they were required to do so.. Oh I agree the hotels cost a lot, but that's why Starmer plans this new idea, he thinks it will reduce costs We will see It's something to help, every little helps as they say.. |
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Post by borgr0 on Nov 12, 2024 23:47:31 GMT
For that you'd need to elect Reform UK most probably, that's not on the cards for a while, they probably won't win in 5 years either The Rwanda plan didn't deport many people IIRC, it was tried In exactly the same way that the election of two BNP MEPs made Gordon Brown and Phil Woolas spout BNP policy as their own, we don't need 'the Rwanda pilicy' to work Me only need the rubber boat riders to be SO shit scared of it they apply for asylum in France, and then use our UNHCR treaty that we've adhered to since bloody forever to get in here as genuine asylum seekers being resettled by the UN and not bloody criminal invaders. The UN would foist more refugees than you can imagine on the UK if one went by that idea surely? It would be even worse |
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 13, 2024 1:17:04 GMT
In exactly the same way that the election of two BNP MEPs made Gordon Brown and Phil Woolas spout BNP policy as their own, we don't need 'the Rwanda pilicy' to work Me only need the rubber boat riders to be SO shit scared of it they apply for asylum in France, and then use our UNHCR treaty that we've adhered to since bloody forever to get in here as genuine asylum seekers being resettled by the UN and not bloody criminal invaders. The UN would foist more refugees than you can imagine on the UK if one went by that idea surely? It would be even worse Not at all You need to look carefully at the numbers If you examine the number of asylum seekers accepted as genuine by France for example you will find it very low. Back when I last looked into this which I admit was around the time of Cameron's Brexit Government, it was a most interesting fact that France declared perhaps one in ten of the asylum seeker claimants seeking asylum in France as genuine, and rejected the other 90% as bogus. Anyone reviewing the sort of scum sitting in 'le jungle' bleating they want to go to England to claim asylum could not - unless a diehard open borders corbynista - consider any of these illegals genuine, but our lefty lawyers and pressure groups operate a 'cone in in the benefits are lovely' policy that shows Anders Breitek had the right idea about what to do to our left wingers. With a sensible policy weeding out the chancers and liars and all of the EU states signed up to those UNHCR treaties that long predate the EEC never mind the EU, I suspect our quota would be hugely less than the annual invasion of freeloaders we have now. |
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Post by borgr0 on Nov 13, 2024 1:26:42 GMT
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Post by borgr0 on Nov 13, 2024 1:32:54 GMT
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 13, 2024 1:49:10 GMT
3.5 million is a lot to prevent homelessness dont care what anyone says
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Post by jonksy on Nov 13, 2024 7:22:10 GMT
3.5 million is a lot to prevent homelessness dont care what anyone says It's no more than a drop in the ocean doofus.... |
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 13, 2024 7:25:37 GMT
3.5 million is a lot to prevent homelessness dont care what anyone says It's no more than a drop in the ocean doofus.... say that to a veteran who it helps from becoming homeless |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 13, 2024 7:30:03 GMT
It's no more than a drop in the ocean doofus.... Has he helped anyone doofus? It's just the usual steamer hot air...Just imagine how much that starmer and his bunch of scum could give our veterans if they were not forking out over £8 million a day on hotels for our unwanted guests... |
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