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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 12, 2024 0:55:34 GMT
He appears to be talking of resurrecting the Rwanda plan There's no proof he's invited any more illegals and has tried to reinstate the barges and Rwanda plan Starmer is a socialist human rights lawyer, he is not a prime minister. The man is an inexperienced idealistic buffoon. The only deterrent was Rwanda, he scrapped it and in doing so wrote off £24 million, and the Irish government said Rwanda was a deterrent. They said illegals were crossing the border from Northern Ireland into the EU because they didn't want to be sent to Rwanda. That's called a deterrent. Thanks to Starmer that deterrent no longer exists, hence record numbers of refugees crossing the channel from war torn France. Starmer is incompetent. |
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Post by borgr0 on Nov 12, 2024 0:56:05 GMT
True, maybe he can end that or fix it If there were less wars less refugees would flee, not Starmer's fault, not anyone's fault in the grand scheme of things, just a sad thing about the world at the moment Where is this raging war in the EUSSR FFS? It's in the RoW outside the USSR, such as in Ukraine for example where many refugees flee from, or with Belarus and Russia pushing migrants towards Europe Why Poland says Russia and Belarus are weaponizing migration to benefit Europe’s far-right apnews.com/article/poland-belarus-migrants-russia-ukraine-59d6050c2ea6853de3154150e8c9dcb5Poland, Hungary and others have seen their borders overwhelmed with migrants sent over by Russia and Belarus apparently (Not that I am condemning Russia or Belarus who mean well) |
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Post by borgr0 on Nov 12, 2024 0:59:07 GMT
He appears to be talking of resurrecting the Rwanda plan There's no proof he's invited any more illegals and has tried to reinstate the barges and Rwanda plan Starmer is a socialist human rights lawyer, he is not a prime minister. The man is an inexperienced idealistic buffoon. The only deterrent was Rwanda, he scrapped it and in doing so wrote off £24 million, and the Irish government said Rwanda was a deterrent. They said illegals were crossing the border from Northern Ireland into the EU because they didn't want to be sent to Rwanda. That's called a deterrent. Thanks to Starmer that deterrent no longer exists, hence record numbers of refugees crossing the channel from war torn France. Starmer is incompetent. The Rwanda plan only deported few migrants IIRC. And wasn't it blocked by being party to the ECHR and the 1998 HRA? www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-68093940One would have to stop association with the ECHR for the plan to have been legal in the first place |
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Post by borgr0 on Nov 12, 2024 0:59:44 GMT
Yes I can (I'm not Starmer but I presume you mean me, and not Starmer) Who's to say he won't rectify the situation? He's trying to deal with the situation of illegals Dont quite follow, not to worry. As for illegals, he could stop illegals entering UK territorial waters right now. How so? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 12, 2024 1:18:07 GMT
The Rwanda plan only deported few migrants IIRC. And wasn't it blocked by being party to the ECHR and the 1998 HRA? www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-68093940One would have to stop association with the ECHR for the plan to have been legal in the first place The Rwanda plan wasn't even out of the blocks, but thanks to constant left wing opposition from left wing lawyers, people like Starmer, and of course the election result was a fly in the ointment, it was destined to fail. However, in the light of Germany Austria and probably others looking favourably at a Rwanda plan, I wonder how stupid Starmer feels now. As for the antiquated ECHR, and Blairs unnecessary HRA, we should withdraw and repeal, immediately. I know it's never going to happen under this minority appeasing socialist government, but it will happen in the future. If it doesn't I envisage mass civil disorder because people in this country are sick of being ignored. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2024 1:24:43 GMT
Where is this raging war in the EUSSR FFS? , or with Belarus and Russia pushing migrants towards Europe Why Poland says Russia and Belarus are weaponizing migration to benefit Europe’s far-right apnews.com/article/poland-belarus-migrants-russia-ukraine-59d6050c2ea6853de3154150e8c9dcb5Poland, Hungary and others have seen their borders overwhelmed with migrants sent over by Russia and Belarus apparently (Not that I am condemning Russia or Belarus who mean well) As if I didn't know we have 2 Ukranian refugees in our household we used to have 3 but one moved back to Poland to marry a doctor she had met..
The EUSSR just usher these unwanted through their SAFE member states and then shove them off onto the UK. The wankers have to get their revenge on losing treasure island don't you know...
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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2024 1:28:39 GMT
Dont quite follow, not to worry. As for illegals, he could stop illegals entering UK territorial waters right now. How so? Shove the small boats back to frogland or sink them mid channel. But no the woke RNLI are used to pick the wankers up and plant them on our shores helped of course by the frog and UK border farces.. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 12, 2024 1:30:54 GMT
Dont quite follow, not to worry. As for illegals, he could stop illegals entering UK territorial waters right now. How so? UNCLOS. (United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea) Any government can physically stop illegals entering their territorial waters, international law allows it. Sect 4 Article 33... The coastal State [In this case the UK] may exercise the control necessary to: (a) prevent infringement of its customs or immigration regulations within its territory or territorial sea; (b) punish infringement of the above laws and regulations committed within its territory or territorial sea. www.un.org/depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/unclos_e.pdfIt's the international law of the sea. I accept the government don't shout about it because to implement international law would upset the EU which is why we need a government that puts the UK and British people first. Wouldn't that make a refreshing change. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2024 1:36:40 GMT
UNCLOS. (United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea) Any government can physically stop illegals entering their territorial waters, international law allows it. Sect 4 Article 33... The coastal State [In this case the UK] may exercise the control necessary to: (a) prevent infringement of its customs or immigration regulations within its territory or territorial sea; (b) punish infringement of the above laws and regulations committed within its territory or territorial sea. www.un.org/depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/unclos_e.pdfIt's the international law of the sea. I accept the government don't shout about it because to implement international law would upset the EU which is why we need a government that puts the UK and British people first. Wouldn't that make a refreshing change. It worked in Australia aganst the vietnamese boat people...
Australia's "Operation Sovereign Borders" policy, implemented in 2013, was designed to stop the arrival of boat people, including Vietnamese refugees, by intercepting migrant boats and returning them to their country of origin:
Policy
The policy was a military-led response to people smuggling and border protection. It combined resources from multiple government bodies under the command of a three-star general.
Turnbacks
The policy included the reintroduction of "turnbacks" at sea, where boats were prevented from reaching shore and the passengers and crew were returned to their country of departure.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2024 1:52:51 GMT
Who would have thunked it.... The number of migrants crossing the Channel has doubled under Labour, shocking analysis reveals. Some 32,900 asylum seekers have arrived in small boats this year, prompting fears the annual total could hit 40,000. A staggering 19,326 have crossed since Sir Keir Starmer became Prime Minister in July - an average of 150 a day.This is compared to an average of 74 per day in the 184 days before the General Election.....
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 12, 2024 2:03:42 GMT
It worked in Australia aganst the vietnamese boat people... Australia's "Operation Sovereign Borders" policy, implemented in 2013, was designed to stop the arrival of boat people, including Vietnamese refugees, by intercepting migrant boats and returning them to their country of origin: Policy The policy was a military-led response to people smuggling and border protection. It combined resources from multiple government bodies under the command of a three-star general. Turnbacks The policy included the reintroduction of "turnbacks" at sea, where boats were prevented from reaching shore and the passengers and crew were returned to their country of departure. Indeed, a classic example of how to deal with illegals entering sovereign territorial waters. No one can say it doesn't work, The Aussies proved it can work. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 12, 2024 2:13:13 GMT
Who would have thunked it.... The number of migrants crossing the Channel has doubled under Labour, shocking analysis reveals. Some 32,900 asylum seekers have arrived in small boats this year, prompting fears the annual total could hit 40,000. A staggering 19,326 have crossed since Sir Keir Starmer became Prime Minister in July - an average of 150 a day.This is compared to an average of 74 per day in the 184 days before the General Election..... And the government don't want anyone talking about this, but they are all being housed in hotels and handed benefits that currently costs £15.5 billion a year and they will all quietly be pushed to the front of the housing queue because the government cant grant someone asylum or refugee status [Even if they have fled the horrors of war torn France], and not house them. Starmer made a big thing of announcing £3.5 million for homeless veterans. If I'd have been in arms reach I'd have smacked him in the mouth. Socialist toerag. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 12, 2024 2:13:51 GMT
Starmer means well and is trying the best he can Ditto Lab and liberals in general Bullshit. He is chucking christ knows how many billions at vanity projects and the illegals he needs to vote for him. He doesn't give a fuck a out British military veterans |
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Post by borgr0 on Nov 12, 2024 2:22:52 GMT
The Rwanda plan only deported few migrants IIRC. And wasn't it blocked by being party to the ECHR and the 1998 HRA? www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-68093940One would have to stop association with the ECHR for the plan to have been legal in the first place The Rwanda plan wasn't even out of the blocks, but thanks to constant left wing opposition from left wing lawyers, people like Starmer, and of course the election result was a fly in the ointment, it was destined to fail. However, in the light of Germany Austria and probably others looking favourably at a Rwanda plan, I wonder how stupid Starmer feels now. As for the antiquated ECHR, and Blairs unnecessary HRA, we should withdraw and repeal, immediately. I know it's never going to happen under this minority appeasing socialist government, but it will happen in the future. If it doesn't I envisage mass civil disorder because people in this country are sick of being ignored. For that you'd need to elect Reform UK most probably, that's not on the cards for a while, they probably won't win in 5 years either The Rwanda plan didn't deport many people IIRC, it was tried |
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Post by borgr0 on Nov 12, 2024 2:24:20 GMT
It's in the RoW outside the USSR, such as in Ukraine for example where many refugees flee from, or with Belarus and Russia pushing migrants towards Europe Why Poland says Russia and Belarus are weaponizing migration to benefit Europe’s far-right apnews.com/article/poland-belarus-migrants-russia-ukraine-59d6050c2ea6853de3154150e8c9dcb5Poland, Hungary and others have seen their borders overwhelmed with migrants sent over by Russia and Belarus apparently (Not that I am condemning Russia or Belarus who mean well) As if I didn't know we have 2 Ukranian refugees in our household we used to have 3 but one moved back to Poland to marry a doctor she had met..
The EUSSR just usher these unwanted through their SAFE member states and then shove them off onto the UK. The wankers have to get their revenge on losing treasure island don't you know...
You did a great thing by taking in Ukrainian refugees. You have helped people. A great many people have been sent over by Russia and Belarus. I don't condemn Russia as you know, but I don't think it's wise for them to do this to Europe as it fans the flames of war. Many of the 1 million sent to Germany in 2015 were sent over by Russia, thru eastern borders |
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