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Post by sheepy on Dec 16, 2022 12:31:09 GMT
By the way, having strong socialist views doesn't necessarily make anyone an extremist, before you try and lead SRB down that path.
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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 16, 2022 12:37:08 GMT
Where is your local labour party? Being the Blairite that you are, and knowing how they tend to conduct themselves, I don't trust you with that information. You might via party contacts seek to discover my identity and then to make trouble for me in my real life. Such things have been known to happen before when people give too much away. It is sadly my experience that Labour centrists have no low to which they will not stoop when it comes to fighting the left. Apologies if that is not your intent but I do not intend to take the chance. Lol paranoid r us |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2022 21:21:37 GMT
So not just one but two Blairite centrist twits are insisting upon calling me an extremist, as if I am on a par with Lenin, Stalin and Trotsky. And the fact is, which neither Blairite seems to get, is that my politics were once mainstream for decades in their own party, so calling that extreme is goalpost shifting on their part with dubious motivations in an attempt to establish a false narrative. When all dissent from the status quo is regarded as extreme by definition, that is very close to a totalitarian mindset. You have been compared to Thatcher, not Stalin or Trotsky. "my politics were once mainstream for decades" yes, based on old Labour, that's why the Tories have dominated parliament over the last 70 odd years. You have failed to grasp the significance of the sunshine and fresh air introduced by New Labour. Years in office since 1951: Old Labour. 11 years. New Labour. 13 years. Conservatives. 49 years. Even Thatcher was in office for as long as long Old Labour. It really doesn't appears to make any sense to press for Old Labour policies. You called me an extremist and as such were talking shite as usual, when my views were once mainstream even in your own party. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 16, 2022 21:25:53 GMT
You have been compared to Thatcher, not Stalin or Trotsky. "my politics were once mainstream for decades" yes, based on old Labour, that's why the Tories have dominated parliament over the last 70 odd years. You have failed to grasp the significance of the sunshine and fresh air introduced by New Labour. Years in office since 1951: Old Labour. 11 years. New Labour. 13 years. Conservatives. 49 years. Even Thatcher was in office for as long as long Old Labour. It really doesn't appears to make any sense to press for Old Labour policies. You called me an extremist and as such were talking shite as usual, when my views were once mainstream even in your own party. I also asked "Do you agree that Thatcher's politics were extreme without her being a far right fascist?" Which I note you ignored. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2022 21:25:59 GMT
You lied about me being an extremist for holding views that were once mainstream in your party, and without evidence you insinuated that I was an antisemite. That makes you the liar in my book. It makes you pretty dumb in my book. I have not accused you of being a far left extremist. Only that your position is the Lefts equivalent in extremism as was Thatcher's on the right. Do you agree that Thatcher's politics were extreme without her being a far right fascist? I believe you are labelling anything you disagree with as extremist. The lefts equivalent of extremism is communism/bolshevism. You don't seem to understand the difference between that and little old me and as such are insulting my intelligence and making yourself look either stupid or dishonest, if not both. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2022 21:29:37 GMT
You called me an extremist and as such were talking shite as usual, when my views were once mainstream even in your own party. I also asked "Do you agree that Thatcher's politics were extreme without her being a far right fascist?" Which I note you ignored. Some of us work for a living and I was tied up doing my job and have only just got home. If being at work is the definition of ignoring you, then there is a lot of ignoring being done in this country. And much as I hated Thatcher's policies, that does not make them extreme. You seem to think anything you don't like is extreme and are actually perverting and distorting the very meaning of the word. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2022 21:31:13 GMT
Being the Blairite that you are, and knowing how they tend to conduct themselves, I don't trust you with that information. You might via party contacts seek to discover my identity and then to make trouble for me in my real life. Such things have been known to happen before when people give too much away. It is sadly my experience that Labour centrists have no low to which they will not stoop when it comes to fighting the left. Apologies if that is not your intent but I do not intend to take the chance. Lol paranoid r us I have seen how you lot operate first hand. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 16, 2022 21:40:03 GMT
I also asked "Do you agree that Thatcher's politics were extreme without her being a far right fascist?" Which I note you ignored. Some of us work for a living and I was tied up doing my job and have only just got home. If being at work is the definition of ignoring you, then there is a lot of ignoring being done in this country. And much as I hated Thatcher's policies, that does not make them extreme. You seem to think anything you don't like is extreme and are actually perverting and distorting the very meaning of the word. I apologise for the word "ignoring" So Thatcher sometimes referred to as a 'stocking footed fascist' who added 3million to the unemployment count and who left 3 million kids (and therefore their parents) living in relative poverty did not indulge in extreme politics ? |
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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 16, 2022 21:41:27 GMT
I won't meet een how you lot operate first hand. Hows that I dont name call people im a nice person woudnt want to harm anyone . i guess this means me and you wont meet for a date  |
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Post by Toreador on Dec 16, 2022 21:54:51 GMT
I won't meet een how you lot operate first hand. Hows that I dont name call people im a nice person woudnt want to harm anyone . i guess this means me and you wont meet for a date Has it occurred that srb maybe female? |
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Post by see2 on Dec 16, 2022 21:55:28 GMT
It makes you pretty dumb in my book. I have not accused you of being a far left extremist. Only that your position is the Lefts equivalent in extremism as was Thatcher's on the right. Do you agree that Thatcher's politics were extreme without her being a far right fascist? I believe you are labelling anything you disagree with as extremist. The lefts equivalent of extremism is communism/bolshevism. You don't seem to understand the difference between that and little old me and as such are insulting my intelligence and making yourself look either stupid or dishonest, if not both. You have apparently missed my post where I stated extreme politics not far left or far right extremism. As in comparing your left wing position with Thatcher's right wing position. Thatcher was to the right of the Tory party just as Corbyn was to the left of the Labour party. Those on the left of the Labour party referred to the moderates as "Thatcher lite". those on the right of the Tory party referred to the moderates as "the wets". It puts a clear line between the 'hard liners' if you prefer that to the more extreme, and the moderates. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 16, 2022 21:57:11 GMT
Hows that I dont name call people im a nice person woudnt want to harm anyone . i guess this means me and you wont meet for a date Has it occurred that srb maybe female? Yes thats why I said about a date |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2022 22:02:54 GMT
Hows that I dont name call people im a nice person woudnt want to harm anyone . i guess this means me and you wont meet for a date Has it occurred that srb maybe female? It could have been so but alas no. I am male. |
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Post by Toreador on Dec 16, 2022 22:06:41 GMT
Has it occurred that srb maybe female? It could have been so but alas no. I am male. Well I know but I was trying to winkle out Dopey's motives. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 16, 2022 22:15:58 GMT
Srb7767
Are you sure youre a socalist ive never seen you post anything condemning Sunak or the other conservatives
All you seem to post is calling sir keir a lier or call new labour thatcherite no wonder there was so much in fighting when corbyn was in power.
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