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Post by dodgydave on Nov 1, 2024 12:16:49 GMT
He's going to face 3 counts of murder, and how many attempted counts of murder, that's for sure. Will a racist charge be threw in ... I doubt it. Will a terrorist charge be threw in .... maybe, but it will only be he had the paraphernalia (ricin) to make it a terrorist offense. It doesn't really matter what the charges are as long as he never gets out. The real problem is that the establishment and media won't call it for what it is... He is either a terrorist, or a racist murderer... any other label just winds people up further because if it was the other way around those would be the only two valid labels.
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 1, 2024 12:25:44 GMT
He's going to face 3 counts of murder, and how many attempted counts of murder, that's for sure. Will a racist charge be threw in ... I doubt it. Will a terrorist charge be threw in .... maybe, but it will only be he had the paraphernalia (ricin) to make it a terrorist offense. It doesn't really matter what the charges are as long as he never gets out. The real problem is that the establishment and media won't call it for what it is... He is either a terrorist, or a racist murderer... any other label just winds people up further because if it was the other way around those would be the only two valid labels. Well he only has one life, I've never really seen the sense in two/three life sentences for each charge, just lock the twat up and throw away the key, we don't want the waste off skin back in to society EVER.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 1, 2024 12:35:40 GMT
He has been charged for downloading a Terrorist Manual contrary to Section 58 of the of the Terrorism 2000 He has been charged with manufacturing a biological toxin ( Ricin) contrary to Section 1 of the Biological Weapons Act 1974. He has been charged with three counts of Murder of the three girls Contrary to Common Law , plus 10 Counts of Attempted Murder. People have drawn this parallel before, but it worth going over again .. If he had been downloading literature written by a proscribed Nazi group, if he had been white, if he had been constructing weapons of poisons in his basement and if he had gone out and murdered several random black or Jewish children, then the government would have made the obvious link between his actions and his overwhelmingly likely motivations for those actions and called the murders an act of terrorism Spot on.
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Post by sandypine on Nov 1, 2024 13:00:15 GMT
He's going to face 3 counts of murder, and how many attempted counts of murder, that's for sure. Will a racist charge be threw in ... I doubt it. Will a terrorist charge be threw in .... maybe, but it will only be he had the paraphernalia (ricin) to make it a terrorist offense. It doesn't really matter what the charges are as long as he never gets out. The real problem is that the establishment and media won't call it for what it is... He is either a terrorist, or a racist murderer... any other label just winds people up further because if it was the other way around those would be the only two valid labels. And not calling it for what it is is a political decision, just as the fast track courts were a political decision and placing internet 'criminals' on remand was a political decision.
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Post by Handyman on Nov 1, 2024 15:10:03 GMT
He has been charged for downloading a Terrorist Manual contrary to Section 58 of the of the Terrorism 2000 He has been charged with manufacturing a biological toxin ( Ricin) contrary to Section 1 of the Biological Weapons Act 1974. He has been charged with three counts of Murder of the three girls Contrary to Common Law , plus 10 Counts of Attempted Murder. All of which carry severe penalty's on the Murder charges alone if he pleads guilty or found guilty he will more than likely put away for the rest of his life There may well be other Criminal Charges that may be brought against him as well, time will tell. The question still remains though. Why are the murders not being considered a suspected terrorist incident. We know nothing about him and the police have all the information and seem to be dishing it out with a high degree of circumspection. Was he a Muslim, did he attend a Mosque, what were his links to Islam, did he act totally alone, was the MO in line with lone wolf attacks as suggested by ISIS and suchlike, who did he associate with, were his parents Muslim and attend a Mosque etc etc. Most of that information will not affect his case in any way as most of it is already in the public domain but seems to be under some form of embargo. it took me less than 10 mins to find this about him on the net. His parents were born in Rwanda the dominant religion is Christianity, only 3% of the population are Muslim mainly Sunni's, the man in custody was born in Cardiff his date of birth is 7/8/2013 he has Autism Syndrome he attended Range High School , he has a brother the family moved from Wales to live a village called Banks on the outskirts of Southport the family now in hiding were heavily involved in the Local Church. He was raised in the Christian Faith unless he has converted to the Muslim Faith recently which IMHO is unlikely IMHO The above is nothing into what the Anti Terrorism Police MI5 and even MI6 will have undertaken after his barbaric attack on those children, to see who he is associated with, what's on any electronic gadgets PC Laptop Mobile, where he purchased the ingredients to make Ricin etc etc, where he bought the knife and when, plus of course what he said if anything when interviewed. The Laws already in place to deal with suspects of serious crimes is robust and been tested in Court on numerous times over the years, no need to change them change them, if any weakness is found in legislation in Court that will be addresses, they can also add to existing Legislation it happens all the time, that is what Defence Teams do week in week out test the Law and evidence for any weakness or loopholes
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Post by honestjohn on Nov 17, 2024 15:25:08 GMT
Strange post this, what on earth could it possibly mean?
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Post by sheepy on Nov 17, 2024 18:06:35 GMT
Strange post this, what on earth could it possibly mean? No idea but sounds very strange.
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Post by Dogburger on Nov 17, 2024 19:33:07 GMT
Strange post this, what on earth could it possibly mean? all rumour at the moment but it looks like quite an easy sum to add up
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