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Post by jonksy on Oct 25, 2024 10:41:47 GMT
Do you fancy living literally a few yards away from a runway? No, I wouldn't fancy living anywhere with such ghastly furniture either. But then neither location nor furnishings are fixed no matter what style of dwelling you opt for. I know where that picture was Taken Dan. Its on the road that leads to Exeter airport and they are just demo homes. The company used to build shipping containers but now they convert them into homes.. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 25, 2024 10:43:42 GMT
Pleny good enough for our unwanted guests Baron.. I would treat them to a British Airways seat myself. Ditto but the usual lefties wont allow it Mate. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Oct 25, 2024 10:53:50 GMT
One of the main reasons why Westerners thought living in a cheap metal container might initially be a ‘good idea’ ….
…. Sadly … not a solution … to longterm survival.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 25, 2024 10:56:15 GMT
One of the main reasons why Westerners thought living in a cheap metal container might initially be a ‘good idea’ …. …. Sadly … not a solution … to longterm survival. Rubbish shipping containers are built to be on the briny. Being inland will extend their lives even further even if they are not maintained.. |
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Post by honestjohn on Oct 25, 2024 15:24:22 GMT
It's OK doing that for a single story, but as mentioned in the OP, people are going for multi-story constructions with cantilevers and all. You still have the problem of the British climate. Flat roofs are a trouble to start with. You get puddles on them and metal hates water, plus if it snows that isn't going to slide off. It will be an oven in the summer and a freezer in the winter with condensation running off all the walls creating mould which will destroy the decor and become a health hazard.
This is why houses have sloping roofs. You notice quite a few in this country do! As for bricks, what they do is not only function as excellent insulation and can be build into any shape you like, they also extract moisture. The humidity caused by your breath is going to condense on the cold surface, but brick is porous so the temperature difference between one side and the other draws the moisture out and it evaporates on the outside walls. Clever eh? Well the thing is we have been building homes for thousands of years, tried the mud huts and the tents etc, and seem to have settled on the traditional British house as the best option. Shame we can't build them anymore. Well, obviously, you have to thatch them. That's what we did. Ours are just storage units though.  Is that real, Monte? Or a clever bit of photoshopping? Can never tell what's real these days. Who would thatch a line of containers? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 25, 2024 15:28:34 GMT
Whoever did it must be related to O'Reilly the Builder from Fawlty Towers. You can't open the doors!
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 26, 2024 13:36:05 GMT
Well, obviously, you have to thatch them. That's what we did. Ours are just storage units though. Is that real, Monte? Or a clever bit of photoshopping? Can never tell what's real these days. Who would thatch a line of containers? Yes it's real. The thatchers' association commissioned a ten year survey to compare different varieties of straw and different growing conditions. Every 18'' is a different straw either by variety or soil type etc. It's 60' in length so 40 different types in total. Rather than just arrange the panels of thatch on the ground Paul decided to put them on 2 containers to save wasting any productive land. The containers are lined up East to West so the roof has a north and south side. The picture shows the south side. For the first 5 years the roof was tested for water content and rainfall measurements were taken along with other data but after that it is just the colour that is recorded. The hope is that the best straw for longevity will be found so that roofs will last longer. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 26, 2024 13:37:58 GMT
Whoever did it must be related to O'Reilly the Builder from Fawlty Towers. You can't open the doors! Yes you can. That end is where we keep the juggling convention equipment such as the sound system and table tennis table. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 26, 2024 13:47:26 GMT
Is that real, Monte? Or a clever bit of photoshopping? Can never tell what's real these days. Who would thatch a line of containers? Yes it's real. The thatchers' association commissioned a ten year survey to compare different varieties of straw and different growing conditions. Every 18'' is a different straw either by variety or soil type etc. It's 60' in length so 40 different types in total. Rather than just arrange the panels of thatch on the ground Paul decided to put them on 2 containers to save wasting any productive land. The containers are lined up East to West so the roof has a north and south side. The picture shows the south side. For the first 5 years the roof was tested for water content and rainfall measurements were taken along with other data but after that it is just the colour that is recorded. The hope is that the best straw for longevity will be found so that roofs will last longer. I didn't need to ask. I've seen some of your creations before.
I'll give it a tick because it is in accordance to the Bauhaus School (form follows function).
Shipping containers themselves also comply with this rule. You use it for storage right? Well that is what a shipping container was designed for, hence the mapping between original function and current function. Where you get the incongruity between form and function is when you change the function to being a place for human habitation.
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 26, 2024 13:57:25 GMT
Yes it's real. The thatchers' association commissioned a ten year survey to compare different varieties of straw and different growing conditions. Every 18'' is a different straw either by variety or soil type etc. It's 60' in length so 40 different types in total. Rather than just arrange the panels of thatch on the ground Paul decided to put them on 2 containers to save wasting any productive land. The containers are lined up East to West so the roof has a north and south side. The picture shows the south side. For the first 5 years the roof was tested for water content and rainfall measurements were taken along with other data but after that it is just the colour that is recorded. The hope is that the best straw for longevity will be found so that roofs will last longer. I didn't need to ask. I've seen some of your creations before.
I'll give it a tick because it is in accordance to the Bauhaus School (form follows function).
Shipping containers themselves also comply with this rule. You use it for storage right? Well that is what a shipping container was designed for, hence the mapping between original function and current function. Where you get the incongruity between form and function is when you change the function to being a place for human habitation.
TBH they are not great for storage either. Great for keeping things dry and secure but inefficient for space. One you fill them up you can't get the stuff at the back out. So you have to leave about 2'' clear down one side so you have room to get at everything and extract what you want. Great for transporting things where you can fill them to the brim but for storage where you need to get things in or out pretty rubbish. The far container has marquees in it and it is a real faff for the guy to get things in and out. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 26, 2024 14:10:35 GMT
I didn't need to ask. I've seen some of your creations before.
I'll give it a tick because it is in accordance to the Bauhaus School (form follows function).
Shipping containers themselves also comply with this rule. You use it for storage right? Well that is what a shipping container was designed for, hence the mapping between original function and current function. Where you get the incongruity between form and function is when you change the function to being a place for human habitation.
TBH they are not great for storage either. Great for keeping things dry and secure but inefficient for space. One you fill them up you can't get the stuff at the back out. So you have to leave about 2'' clear down one side so you have room to get at everything and extract what you want. Great for transporting things where you can fill them to the brim but for storage where you need to get things in or out pretty rubbish. The far container has marquees in it and it is a real faff for the guy to get things in and out. You have a point there. Containers are designed to drive down roads so their design is compromised by that. I was thinking of the general strength of the things, like say if you were storing in a room with plasterboard walls then they could get pretty bashed up, where the walls of a container are pretty indestructible. Also the security as they are designed to be left unattended. You can sometimes gain by using one thing designed for something else if the thing it was designed for is a mass produced item and the thing you want to use it for is very specialist. Economy of production scale makes them cheap. |
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Post by besoeker3 on Oct 26, 2024 15:22:24 GMT
TBH they are not great for storage either. Great for keeping things dry and secure but inefficient for space. One you fill them up you can't get the stuff at the back out. So you have to leave about 2'' clear down one side so you have room to get at everything and extract what you want. Great for transporting things where you can fill them to the brim but for storage where you need to get things in or out pretty rubbish. The far container has marquees in it and it is a real faff for the guy to get things in and out. You have a point there. Containers are designed to drive down roads so their design is compromised by that. I was thinking of the general strength of the things, like say if you were storing in a room with plasterboard walls then they could get pretty bashed up, where the walls of a container are pretty indestructible. Also the security as they are designed to be left unattended. You can sometimes gain by using one thing designed for something else if the thing it was designed for is a mass produced item and the thing you want to use it for is very specialist. Economy of production scale makes them cheap. The trucks are designed for exactly their application. If anyone wants to use them for something different that's their choice. |
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Post by blueorange on Oct 27, 2024 7:24:01 GMT
The ideas of living in a cramped metal box is completely bonkers. Why would you in a developed country live in a container, it’s silly!
The answer is not that there is no building materials, tradesman, land or capital. It’s the bureaucratic nature of this country which stops people building a normal house which is designed for wellbeing of its inhabitants.
Why can’t you go and build a dream house? There is a thousand rules and regulation (greenbelt, planning, building control……). It’s easier to put a metal box and live in it instead.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 28, 2024 16:20:31 GMT
The ideas of living in a cramped metal box is completely bonkers. Why would you in a developed country live in a container, it’s silly! The answer is not that there is no building materials, tradesman, land or capital. It’s the bureaucratic nature of this country which stops people building a normal house which is designed for wellbeing of its inhabitants. Why can’t you go and build a dream house? There is a thousand rules and regulation (greenbelt, planning, building control……). It’s easier to put a metal box and live in it instead. I think this is probably the way to go. You can now print a house.
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Post by Ripley on Oct 28, 2024 17:26:14 GMT
The ideas of living in a cramped metal box is completely bonkers. Why would you in a developed country live in a container, it’s silly! The answer is not that there is no building materials, tradesman, land or capital. It’s the bureaucratic nature of this country which stops people building a normal house which is designed for wellbeing of its inhabitants. Why can’t you go and build a dream house? There is a thousand rules and regulation (greenbelt, planning, building control……). It’s easier to put a metal box and live in it instead. I think this is probably the way to go. You can now print a house.
Thanks for posting that. That was fun to watch. It's a good idea but I wouldn't build that sort of house in an earthquake zone. |
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