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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 23, 2024 19:59:46 GMT
There is something fundamentally wrong with containers, but you aint getting what it is, No, I'm not. Can you explain what it is? |
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 23, 2024 19:59:50 GMT
Sadly untrue. The land needs to have residential planning permission if you want to live on it. What? Why can't a farmer build a house on his own farm land without residential planning permission? Is he expected to live elsewhere? A farm would normally come with a farmhouse and some sheds and barns but if someone were to buy some land from an existing farm then planning permission would have to be applied for any buildings erected. Even existing farms would have to apply for permission for any new buildings such as barns or additional housing. Quite right too. Can't have people able to just build wherever they want. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 23, 2024 20:01:59 GMT
There is something fundamentally wrong with containers, but you aint getting what it is, No, I'm not. Can you explain what it is? They are only 8' wide and by the time you've insulated one it would be closer to 7'. It's like living in a narrow boat. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 23, 2024 20:11:05 GMT
For people who might otherwise be living in a tent or under a railway bridge that might not be a show-stopper.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 23, 2024 20:24:44 GMT
You were the one who mentioned those who are living in poverty....Where do you think those who live on other peoples land are going to do when they need a bog? Many army latrines are just a hole in the ground and the smart have lime in them... I am specifically referring to a programme I saw which featured cases of people who created homes for themselves in shipping containers because they could not afford a traditional home. Since they intended to live in their container home permanently, I assume they'd have to make some sort of longer term arrangement than latrines for bathrooms and they'd need showers and laundry facilities too. Doesn't ANY home require those facilities? |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 23, 2024 21:25:58 GMT
What? Why can't a farmer build a house on his own farm land without residential planning permission? Is he expected to live elsewhere? A farm would normally come with a farmhouse and some sheds and barns but if someone were to buy some land from an existing farm then planning permission would have to be applied for any buildings erected. Even existing farms would have to apply for permission for any new buildings such as barns or additional housing. Quite right too. Can't have people able to just build wherever they want.why? - I thought we had a housing crisis. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 23, 2024 21:29:45 GMT
No, I'm not. Can you explain what it is? They are only 8' wide and by the time you've insulated one it would be closer to 7'. It's like living in a narrow boat. looks quite comfortable  |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 23, 2024 21:39:05 GMT
So what do you think our homeless do when they want to use the bog? I think we are at cross purposes here. I have been answering the OP: "What could possibly go wrong? If anyone can think of any downsides then do let us know." I don't see what the habits of the homeless have to do with it. It's to do with the physical properties of the metal itself. Whichever way you analyse it, there are better ways to spend your money to build a home. The cost of the containers might be cheap, but that's just the start of it. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 24, 2024 13:29:10 GMT
Here we go. This guy explains the issues from having actually built one and not being sponsored by some industry.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 24, 2024 16:17:38 GMT
Here we go. This guy explains the issues from having actually built one and not being sponsored by some industry.
The biggest problem is the fact that some of land purchased for an off grid dwelling has a limited access and large trucks with shipping containers cannot deliver a shipping container....There are problems with any construction project so to say shipping containers have problems is an understatement.. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 24, 2024 16:37:22 GMT
Here we go. This guy explains the issues from having actually built one and not being sponsored by some industry.
The biggest problem is the fact that some of land purchased for an off grid dwelling has a limited access and large trucks with shipping containers cannot deliver a shipping container....There are problems with any construction project so to say shipping containers have problems is an understatement.. The conclusion really is once you have screwed about fixing all the issues with containers, like strengthening struts and all, plus the insulation and air conditioning, you would have managed it much faster and cheaper if you had just purchased the building materials designed to be built with. One thing he did not mention was these containers have often been dropped from great heights by cranes and all. Their structural integrity is not guaranteed. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 24, 2024 16:40:35 GMT
The biggest problem is the fact that some of land purchased for an off grid dwelling has a limited access and large trucks with shipping containers cannot deliver a shipping container....There are problems with any construction project so to say shipping containers have problems is an understatement.. The conclusion really is once you have screwed about fixing all the issues with containers, like strengthening struts and all, plus the insulation and air conditioning, you would have managed it much faster and cheaper if you had just purchased the building materials designed to be built with. One thing he did not mention was these containers have often been dropped from great heights by cranes and all. Their structural integrity is not guaranteed. It doesen't take long to convert a container into a home. The dude in your video looks like he would struggle just using a hammer... |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 24, 2024 16:45:15 GMT
The conclusion really is once you have screwed about fixing all the issues with containers, like strengthening struts and all, plus the insulation and air conditioning, you would have managed it much faster and cheaper if you had just purchased the building materials designed to be built with. One thing he did not mention was these containers have often been dropped from great heights by cranes and all. Their structural integrity is not guaranteed. It doesen't take long to convert a container into a home. The dude in your video looks like he would struggle just using a hammer... One container maybe, but the thing a lot of people do it use multiple ones like this Irishman. You have to start cutting the sides out, but the sides hold the roof up. This is when your fun begins. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 24, 2024 16:50:47 GMT
There is something fundamentally wrong with containers, but you aint getting what it is, No, I'm not. Can you explain what it is? The electrons in a metal are mobile. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 24, 2024 16:56:15 GMT
For people who might otherwise be living in a tent or under a railway bridge that might not be a show-stopper. There will be a lot of those the way our economy is going. Mostly Brits I expect.
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