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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 23, 2024 16:38:52 GMT
Yes well the actual problems may require a bit of the old understanding of physics. This is the nature of problems. The obvious ones are known about, as per you think, we need water, leccy and all of that. The other type of problem can occur once you have built it and then realise your mistakes. To detect these problems you might notice a pattern with youtuber promoters. What are they not showing you? If I was planning to live in a shipping container home, I don't think I'd rely solely on YouTube for instruction. I think you'd have to look into the problem of acquiring a fixed address for mail delivery. It can't be that easy to find permanently available land, without which your home would have to be movable. As for fixing mistakes, I imagine you'd address them in the same way that you address mistakes you made in your traditional dwelling. You can either live with them or change them by undoing and redoing whatever you don't like. You would have to undo the containers! |
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Post by Ripley on Oct 23, 2024 16:42:43 GMT
If I was planning to live in a shipping container home, I don't think I'd rely solely on YouTube for instruction. I think you'd have to look into the problem of acquiring a fixed address for mail delivery. It can't be that easy to find permanently available land, without which your home would have to be movable. As for fixing mistakes, I imagine you'd address them in the same way that you address mistakes you made in your traditional dwelling. You can either live with them or change them by undoing and redoing whatever you don't like. You would have to undo the containers! That would depend on the nature and extent of the mistake. Minor mistakes could be rectified without dismantling the whole thing. Larger mistakes might have to be tolerated. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 23, 2024 16:49:53 GMT
You would have to undo the containers! That would depend on the nature and extent of the mistake. Minor mistakes could be rectified without dismantling the whole thing. Larger mistakes might have to be tolerated. I think you are getting the idea. Using containers is the largest of mistakes. One problem is what they are made from and if you want another problem it is the issue of what they are made to do. These things should be obvious but what with all the employees of the media establishment with arts and humanities degrees, what can you expect?
You could ask a builder and they would be able to tell you because builders can often be quite smart these days relative to the rest of the population. There are good reasons why we use bricks.
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 23, 2024 16:52:09 GMT
Most people who live off grid purchase the land they decide to build their dwellings upon......You are seeing a problem where there isn't one.. I'm referring to a programme I saw which featured people who were compelled by poverty to resort to living in containers. These were people who owned no land and had to rely on the kindness of farmers to let them park in a field. Obviously if you owned the land, you could live however you want on it, whether it's a house, a RV, a shipping container or a tent. Sadly untrue. The land needs to have residential planning permission if you want to live on it. |
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Post by Ripley on Oct 23, 2024 17:12:12 GMT
I'm referring to a programme I saw which featured people who were compelled by poverty to resort to living in containers. These were people who owned no land and had to rely on the kindness of farmers to let them park in a field. Obviously if you owned the land, you could live however you want on it, whether it's a house, a RV, a shipping container or a tent. Sadly untrue. The land needs to have residential planning permission if you want to live on it. What? Why can't a farmer build a house on his own farm land without residential planning permission? Is he expected to live elsewhere? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 23, 2024 17:12:31 GMT
I think you are getting the idea. Using containers is the largest of mistakes. One problem is what they are made from and if you want another problem it is the issue of what they are made to do. These things should be obvious but what with all the employees of the media establishment with arts and humanities degrees, what can you expect?
You could ask a builder and they would be able to tell you because builders can often be quite smart these days relative to the rest of the population. There are good reasons why we use bricks.
Unless, like Ripley, you're in N. America in which case you'd use wood.
Builders tend to use materials that are abundantly to hand and adapt their techniques accordingly.
There is nothing fundamentally wrong with using containers for housing.
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Post by Ripley on Oct 23, 2024 17:16:57 GMT
That would depend on the nature and extent of the mistake. Minor mistakes could be rectified without dismantling the whole thing. Larger mistakes might have to be tolerated. I think you are getting the idea. Using containers is the largest of mistakes. One problem is what they are made from and if you want another problem it is the issue of what they are made to do. These things should be obvious but what with all the employees of the media establishment with arts and humanities degrees, what can you expect?
You could ask a builder and they would be able to tell you because builders can often be quite smart these days relative to the rest of the population. There are good reasons why we use bricks.
Personally, I don't love the look of brick, but there are other options. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 23, 2024 17:44:50 GMT
Most people who live off grid purchase the land they decide to build their dwellings upon......You are seeing a problem where there isn't one.. I'm referring to a programme I saw which featured people who were compelled by poverty to resort to living in containers. These were people who owned no land and had to rely on the kindness of farmers to let them park in a field. Obviously if you owned the land, you could live however you want on it, whether it's a house, a RV, a shipping container or a tent. So what do you think our homeless do when they want to use the bog? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 23, 2024 17:54:03 GMT
I think you are getting the idea. Using containers is the largest of mistakes. One problem is what they are made from and if you want another problem it is the issue of what they are made to do. These things should be obvious but what with all the employees of the media establishment with arts and humanities degrees, what can you expect?
You could ask a builder and they would be able to tell you because builders can often be quite smart these days relative to the rest of the population. There are good reasons why we use bricks.
Personally, I don't love the look of brick, but there are other options. There certainly are, but containers are a mistake. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 23, 2024 18:03:30 GMT
I think you are getting the idea. Using containers is the largest of mistakes. One problem is what they are made from and if you want another problem it is the issue of what they are made to do. These things should be obvious but what with all the employees of the media establishment with arts and humanities degrees, what can you expect?
You could ask a builder and they would be able to tell you because builders can often be quite smart these days relative to the rest of the population. There are good reasons why we use bricks.
Unless, like Ripley, you're in N. America in which case you'd use wood.
Builders tend to use materials that are abundantly to hand and adapt their techniques accordingly.
There is nothing fundamentally wrong with using containers for housing.
There is something fundamentally wrong with containers, but you aint getting what it is, if say we compare how it is living in a home made of brick and a container. It's the end result which counts. I can see you as potentially one of these people who get nasty surprises. I've designed a lot of things in my life and know full well that if you do something a bit different you can run into unexpected problems. Sometimes an idea that seems great, and say a bonus like a lot cheaper than how it is normally done, the chances of you running into one of these unexpected issues is greater, simply because chances are someone had that great idea before you and and found out the hard way, hence it did not catch on. In today's world though the stupider the idea is the more hits it gets on Tiktok. |
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Post by Ripley on Oct 23, 2024 18:19:35 GMT
Personally, I don't love the look of brick, but there are other options. There certainly are, but containers are a mistake. They certainly wouldn't be my choice either, but some people are having to make do the best they can. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 23, 2024 18:22:21 GMT
There certainly are, but containers are a mistake. They certainly wouldn't be my choice either, but some people are having to make do the best they can. The best is brick though. These container heads are being scammed by the media. The media love to misadvise the proles and advertise stupid things. They are utterly irresponsible. |
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Post by Ripley on Oct 23, 2024 18:22:35 GMT
I'm referring to a programme I saw which featured people who were compelled by poverty to resort to living in containers. These were people who owned no land and had to rely on the kindness of farmers to let them park in a field. Obviously if you owned the land, you could live however you want on it, whether it's a house, a RV, a shipping container or a tent. So what do you think our homeless do when they want to use the bog? I think we are at cross purposes here. I have been answering the OP: "What could possibly go wrong? If anyone can think of any downsides then do let us know." I don't see what the habits of the homeless have to do with it. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 23, 2024 18:57:51 GMT
So what do you think our homeless do when they want to use the bog? I think we are at cross purposes here. I have been answering the OP: "What could possibly go wrong? If anyone can think of any downsides then do let us know." I don't see what the habits of the homeless have to do with it.You were the one who mentioned those who are living in poverty....Where do you think those who live on other peoples land are going to do when they need a bog? Many army latrines are just a hole in the ground and the smart ones have lime in them... |
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Post by Ripley on Oct 23, 2024 19:20:14 GMT
I think we are at cross purposes here. I have been answering the OP: "What could possibly go wrong? If anyone can think of any downsides then do let us know." I don't see what the habits of the homeless have to do with it.You were the one who mentioned those who are living in poverty....Where do you think those who live on other peoples land are going to do when they need a bog? Many army latrines are just a hole in the ground and the smart have lime in them... I am specifically referring to a programme I saw which featured cases of people who created homes for themselves in shipping containers because they could not afford a traditional home. Since they intended to live in their container home permanently, I assume they'd have to make some sort of longer term arrangement than latrines for bathrooms and they'd need showers and laundry facilities too. |
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