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Post by piglet on Oct 19, 2024 10:48:46 GMT
Is Reform the last chance for the population to influence what goes on in parliament?...that to vote blue or red is to vote for the same thing. That pre election time, promises are made, never to be kept, lying is now pervasive, done because the blues and reds know they will win regardless.
And the standing dictators, like the reds now, will do what the eff they want, we are powerless, reneging on everything, and the attitude is that we are idiots because we dont get how bad things are.
Voting Reform is the last chance, the last chance before what?, the last chance before having to take to the streets, that on a boiler, if the steam cant escape, it blows up, im at that point, that bad news, incompetenance, lying, corruption, stupidity, racism, against the english, sexual perversity, financial incompetance, self server as sholes, indulgent marionnettes are everywhere.
Like the french revolution, they live it up while all else goes to hell......OFF WITH THEIR HEADS. Or the Russian revolution, Labour, the Tories are so removed from everyday life thay might as well be wearing a crown, riding in carriages, having servants.
When the Labour government crashes, it had better be Reform winning.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 19, 2024 13:15:40 GMT
I think that many people quite understandably feel the same.
I think that Reform are now the only party worth voting for.
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 19, 2024 14:25:06 GMT
Both the Tories, or some of them, and Labour are sneering at Reform UK, which is to be expected. I'll be honest I'm not 100% sold on Reform, yet. But I keep thinking to myself - Labour started mass immigration and against the wishes of the majority the Tories continued with it. So why should I trust either of them in the future.
I think I will stick with Reform, and I'm really looking forward to the local elections in May because Reform UK are going to wipe Labour Tory and LibDem councils off the map.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 19, 2024 14:29:08 GMT
Both the Tories, or some of them, and Labour are sneering at Reform UK, which is to be expected. I'll be honest I'm not 100% sold on Reform, yet. But I keep thinking to myself - Labour started mass immigration and against the wishes of the majority the Tories continued with it. So why should I trust either of them in the future. I think I will stick with Reform, and I'm really looking forward to the local elections in May because Reform UK are going to wipe Labour Tory and LibDem councils off the map. I think the turnout will be far higher in May than it was at the last GE... |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 19, 2024 14:36:38 GMT
Both the Tories, or some of them, and Labour are sneering at Reform UK, which is to be expected. I'll be honest I'm not 100% sold on Reform, yet. But I keep thinking to myself - Labour started mass immigration and against the wishes of the majority the Tories continued with it. So why should I trust either of them in the future. I think I will stick with Reform, and I'm really looking forward to the local elections in May because Reform UK are going to wipe Labour Tory and LibDem councils off the map. I think the turnout will be far higher in May than it was at the last GE... Yes I expect so. Voters, even Labour voters will be keen to show this government what they think of them. Labour councils are in for a right kicking, and they know it. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 19, 2024 14:37:10 GMT
Both the Tories, or some of them, and Labour are sneering at Reform UK, which is to be expected. I'll be honest I'm not 100% sold on Reform, yet. But I keep thinking to myself - Labour started mass immigration and against the wishes of the majority the Tories continued with it. So why should I trust either of them in the future. I think I will stick with Reform, and I'm really looking forward to the local elections in May because Reform UK are going to wipe Labour Tory and LibDem councils off the map. I think the turnout will be far higher in May than it was at the last GE... Yes agree, big turn out means disaster for Labour, people will actually get off their arses this time, when they see what life is like under a Labour government they'll be on bended knees begging for a Tory government. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 19, 2024 14:42:27 GMT
I think the turnout will be far higher in May than it was at the last GE... Yes agree, big turn out means disaster for Labour, people will actually get off their arses this time, when they see what life is like under a Labour government they'll be on bended knees begging for a Tory government. We all knew it was going to be the usual shitshow when labour got in. What none of us could imagine was how fast labour would plummet at such a rapid pace.. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 19, 2024 14:47:18 GMT
Yes agree, big turn out means disaster for Labour, people will actually get off their arses this time, when they see what life is like under a Labour government they'll be on bended knees begging for a Tory government. We all knew it was going to be the usual shitshow when labour got in. What none of us could imagine was how fast labour would plummet at such a rapid pace.. I'm gobsmacked, I knew 110% life under a Labour government would be a disaster, but I must admit even I never dreamt it would be so quick and so bad, so can you imagine how people must feel who thought Labour were their saviour. .... FFS |
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Post by honestjohn on Oct 19, 2024 14:47:51 GMT
Reform are a bump in the road, a protest vote, they won't govern.
The bump in the road was caused by the Tories becoming weak and feckless. When they eventually recover their Conservative values, the bump in the road will disappear.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 19, 2024 14:50:06 GMT
Reform are a bump in the road, a protest vote, they won't govern. The bump in the road was caused by the Tories becoming weak and feckless. When they eventually recover their Conservative values, the bump in the road will disappear. I think that anyone who truly cares about the UK will vote reform. There is no alternative at the present time... |
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Post by thomas on Oct 19, 2024 14:53:58 GMT
Reform are a bump in the road, a protest vote, they won't govern. The bump in the road was caused by the Tories becoming weak and feckless. When they eventually recover their Conservative values, the bump in the road will disappear. I mind when they said something along those lines about the rise of the snp in scotland , and how it would be a bump in the road until labour recovered. ive been listening to this same theme now for something like 15 years , especially on internet forums . Something along the lines of " alright now lads , you've had your fun time to get back to normal politics." It hasn't happened yet. In fact , what was passed off as normal politics , ie the two party fptp stitch up , is disintegrating faster and faster as the years go by. Wether you are a disillusioned scot indy supporter , an old fashioned conservative , a traditional socialist , of whatever your politics are , one thing we all agree on is we are sick to the back teeth of what passes as mainstream politics and the two main parties. I think you are wrong. |
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Post by thomas on Oct 19, 2024 14:55:49 GMT
We all knew it was going to be the usual shitshow when labour got in. What none of us could imagine was how fast labour would plummet at such a rapid pace.. I'm gobsmacked, I knew 110% life under a Labour government would be a disaster, but I must admit even I never dreamt it would be so quick and so bad, so can you imagine how people must feel who thought Labour were their saviour. .... FFS good article here about labour and their lies from Andrew Neil...  |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 19, 2024 14:55:56 GMT
Reform are a bump in the road, a protest vote, they won't govern. The bump in the road was caused by the Tories becoming weak and feckless. When they eventually recover their Conservative values, the bump in the road will disappear. I think that anyone who truly cares about the UK will vote reform. There is no alternative at the present time... Oh look a new poster, wonder who that could be .... LOL  |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 19, 2024 14:56:32 GMT
I think that even if Kemi Badenoch becomes leader of the Torys there are still many party memebers who are waiting to stab her in he back
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 19, 2024 14:57:18 GMT
I'm gobsmacked, I knew 110% life under a Labour government would be a disaster, but I must admit even I never dreamt it would be so quick and so bad, so can you imagine how people must feel who thought Labour were their saviour. .... FFS good article here about labour and their lies from Andrew Neil... I like Andrew Neil he doesn't mince his words, and he says it as it is, he never gave the Tories or Johnson a easy ride. |
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