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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 12, 2024 11:29:54 GMT
As I've suggested before - assuming we're considering the same question - the answer is likely to be found in a radical decrease in private car ownership and a corresponding increase in public transport. Try selling that Bullshit to the land of cars ie the USA. This isn't Wyoming where teenagers drive 50 miles for a Big Mac in their 7-liter pickup truck. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2024 11:30:50 GMT
we have had an appropriate solution that meets our needs for over a 100 years now. It might be an appropriate solution for the largely unpopulated areas of North America but it doesn't fit in Western Europe.
If it was unpopulated there would be no need of transport.. |
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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 11:32:24 GMT
I think it would be a good thing if more people were to come to the realisation that the age of universal and unlimited personal mobility is slowly drawing to a close in Western Europe and in the UK in particular, and started to demand their elected representatives apply themselves to developing and implementing appropriate solutions. No. Im going to carry on as before , and change my habits , and that of my families as and when we are either forced to , or see fit. You are passing off some yet to be realised green vision as some sort of truism , but zany earlier highlighted the hypocrisy at the heart of your green vision regarding limited mobility by flying unnecessarily to the canaries . The plan appears to be to curtail the mobility of the little people while the big people carry on as before. I might go out the back garden this weekend and set fire to a few tractor tyres , have a bonfire , rev the diesel , that sort of thing. I might even have a barbecue , and consume vast quantities of meat , while drinking copious amounts of Glaswegian riviera wine. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2024 11:33:47 GMT
Try selling that Bullshit to the land of cars ie the USA. This isn't Wyoming where teenagers drive 50 miles for a Big Mac in their 7-liter pickup truck. Oh so to suit the ECO zealots we must curtail the use of vehicles here whilst turning a blind eye to what other countries are doing. Does that have a similar sound to it Dan? It should do.. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 12, 2024 11:34:52 GMT
we have had an appropriate solution that meets our needs for over a 100 years now. It might be an appropriate solution for the largely unpopulated areas of North America but it doesn't fit in Western Europe.
It's fits very well in great swathes of the country - public transport is only viable in areas of dense population, everywhere else needs private transport. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 12, 2024 11:36:56 GMT
while drinking copious amounts of Glaswegian riviera wine.  |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 12, 2024 11:36:58 GMT
That's the spirit. Live now pay later!
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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2024 11:38:20 GMT
That's the spirit. Live now pay later! Is there any other way? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 12, 2024 11:39:05 GMT
It might be an appropriate solution for the largely unpopulated areas of North America but it doesn't fit in Western Europe.
It's fits very well in great swathes of the country - public transport is only viable in areas of dense population, everywhere else needs private transport. It may very well come to pass that everywhere else becomes uninhabitable as options for personal mobility are constrained.
That's going to happen in the forthcoming Age of Shortages, Net Zero or not.
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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 11:39:55 GMT
while drinking copious amounts of Glaswegian riviera wine. thats happy jack enjoying himself in the Ayrshire sunshine . |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2024 11:40:36 GMT
It's fits very well in great swathes of the country - public transport is only viable in areas of dense population, everywhere else needs private transport. It may very well come to pass that everywhere else becomes uninhabitable as options for personal mobility are constrained. Oh so we will have to build even more fucking houses then. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 12, 2024 11:43:04 GMT
Flats more likely, as in most continental countries.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 12, 2024 11:43:18 GMT
we have had an appropriate solution that meets our needs for over a 100 years now. It might be an appropriate solution for the largely unpopulated areas of North America but it doesn't fit in Western Europe.
I disagree . I think it’s an appropriate solution for highly populated urban areas only. It’s not appropriate at all for rural areas |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 12, 2024 11:45:09 GMT
It might be an appropriate solution for the largely unpopulated areas of North America but it doesn't fit in Western Europe.
I disagree . I think it’s an appropriate solution for highly populated urban areas only. It’s not appropriate at all for rural areas Yes, I know. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2024 11:45:44 GMT
Flats more likely, as in most continental countries. Yes I can see people in unpopulated areas lining up to live in a flat in the metropolis. Are you sure you have thought this trough Dan? |
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