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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 12, 2024 11:05:44 GMT
The rational thing to do is for each individual to analyse his own needs and circumstances and select from the range of solutions of offer. The worst possible approach is to allow yourself to persuaded by evangelists, ideologues or axe-grinders.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2024 11:07:21 GMT
The rational thing to do is for each individual to analyse his own needs and circumstances and select from the range of solutions of offer. The worst possible approach is to allow yourself to persuaded by evangelists, ideologues or axe-grinders. Name one single eco zeolot that isn't an axe grinder? |
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Post by honestjohn on Nov 12, 2024 11:13:40 GMT
Look up the proportion of Co2 pollution that comes from flying compared to heating homes and offices or land vehicle usage. Then you might know why it sits low on the list of net zero issues You flew then Einstein. Net zero nuts are the biggest hypocrites |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 12, 2024 11:14:43 GMT
Wait a minute ! Aren’t you the one who welcomes the inconvenience of EVs because it will reduce the number of cars on the road ? When it is pointed out that if there was a full uptake of EVs there wouldn’t be enough charging stations to make EV refuelling viable then you will be telling us ‘ good there are too many vehicles on the road anyway ‘ right ? Exactly. Try selling that bullshit to those who live in rural areas and count themselves lucky if a bus turns up once a week.. Tbh I think it will be even worse for towns and impossible for cities unless there is a huge increase in building the infrastructure first charging. People will be fighting over chargers and having to get up in the middle of the night to find or book a charger .Im not even sure that the grid will be able to supply the energy needed anyway. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 12, 2024 11:16:37 GMT
The rational thing to do is for each individual to analyse his own needs and circumstances and select from the range of solutions of offer. The worst possible approach is to allow yourself to persuaded by evangelists, ideologues or axe-grinders. Thrrecus only one option in the long term . That is the point . |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 12, 2024 11:17:53 GMT
I think it would be a good thing if more people were to come to the realisation that the age of universal and unlimited personal mobility is slowly drawing to a close in Western Europe and in the UK in particular, and started to demand their elected representatives apply themselves to developing and implementing appropriate solutions.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2024 11:18:22 GMT
Exactly. Try selling that bullshit to those who live in rural areas and count themselves lucky if a bus turns up once a week.. Tbh I think it will be even worse for towns and impossible for cities unless there is a huge increase in building the infrastructure first charging. People will be fighting over chargers and having to get up in the middle of the night to find or book a charger .Im not even sure that the grid will be able to supply the energy needed anyway. Exactly even the national grid now are stating there will be powercuts and are advising people to purchase emergency candles and flaslights. |
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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 11:18:59 GMT
The rational thing to do is for each individual to analyse his own needs and circumstances and select from the range of solutions of offer. The worst possible approach is to allow yourself to persuaded by evangelists, ideologues or axe-grinders. Name one single eco zeolot that isn't an axe grinder? dan dare , the biggest axe grinder , ideologue and zealot on this forum lecturing others about axe grinding? Dan says its ok to buy an ev , just make sure its not a black one...... |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2024 11:20:49 GMT
I think it would be a good thing if more people were to come to the realisation that the age of universal and unlimited personal mobility is slowly drawing to a close in Western Europe and in the UK in particular, and started to demand their elected representatives apply themselves to appropriate solutions. Why shouldn people be allowed to have their own transport. And how exactly is merchandise going to rock up in our shops? |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 12, 2024 11:22:41 GMT
I think it would be a good thing if more people were to come to the realisation that the age of universal and unlimited personal mobility is slowly drawing to a close in Western Europe and in the UK in particular, and started to demand their elected representatives apply themselves to developing and implementing appropriate solutions. Their representatives are complicit in it as are the net zero nuts who try to persuade the rest of us that EVs are the answer . |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2024 11:25:35 GMT
I think it would be a good thing if more people were to come to the realisation that the age of universal and unlimited personal mobility is slowly drawing to a close in Western Europe and in the UK in particular, and started to demand their elected representatives apply themselves to developing and implementing appropriate solutions. Their representatives are complicit in it as are the net zero nuts who try to persuade the rest of us that EVs are the answer . Ban all transport to the masses and make them fester at home and prey the cork doesnt fly out of the bottle.. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 12, 2024 11:26:17 GMT
I think it would be a good thing if more people were to come to the realisation that the age of universal and unlimited personal mobility is slowly drawing to a close in Western Europe and in the UK in particular, and started to demand their elected representatives apply themselves to developing and implementing appropriate solutions. we have had an appropriate solution that meets our needs for over a 100 years now. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 12, 2024 11:26:51 GMT
As I've suggested before - assuming we're considering the same question - the answer is likely to be found in a radical decrease in private car ownership and a corresponding increase in public transport.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2024 11:28:43 GMT
As I've suggested before - assuming we're considering the same question - the answer is likely to be found in a radical decrease in private car ownership and a corresponding increase in public transport. Try selling that Bullshit to the land of cars ie the USA. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 12, 2024 11:28:47 GMT
I think it would be a good thing if more people were to come to the realisation that the age of universal and unlimited personal mobility is slowly drawing to a close in Western Europe and in the UK in particular, and started to demand their elected representatives apply themselves to developing and implementing appropriate solutions. we have had an appropriate solution that meets our needs for over a 100 years now. It might be an appropriate solution for the largely unpopulated areas of North America but it doesn't fit in Western Europe.
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