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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 10:41:47 GMT
You dont have a full ev , so your comment is irrelevant to the discussion comparing ev to petrol/ diesel in terms of charging/filling. It’s like a someone banging the drum for Veganism while admitting they eat ham sandwiches.” But only very thinly sliced ham”. with zany on side trying to sell the alleged pros of the green cult , who needs enemies? I think every tree hugger must facepalm every time zany makes an argument on their behalf. It's been unbelievable reading the utter bollocks on various thread , the bullshit , innuendo , word salads carrot dangling jam tomorrow , exceptionalism and contradictions. im astounded. Honestly. the depths to which this dishonest individual will slink knows no bounds. Rather than gently convincing me and others , he appears to be doing a stellar job of hardening peoples anti net zero stance... |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 12, 2024 10:42:28 GMT
No I did not. I said the amount of time I am involved in the process is less than filling up with petrol. You dont have a full ev , so your comment is irrelevant to the discussion comparing ev to petrol/ diesel in terms of charging/filling. No, the process is the same whether BEV or PHEV. The only difference between the two is the amount of time taken to charge to the desired level.
If charging at home you're likely to be snoozing through the whole thing anyway so who cares?
Zany's point that the time you need to personally be involved in refuelling your vehicle is likely to be less with any EV than with an ICE for the same annual mileage is a sound one.
And as for your bleating about flat-dwellers not be able to charge at home, they can't refuel their ICEV from home either, so what's the difference. In either case you need to take your car to a refuelling station.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2024 10:48:34 GMT
You dont have a full ev , so your comment is irrelevant to the discussion comparing ev to petrol/ diesel in terms of charging/filling. No, the process is the same whether BEV or PHEV. The only difference between the two is the amount of time taken to charge to the desired level.
If charging at home you're likely to be snoozing through the whole thing anyway so who cares?
Zany's point that the time you need to personally be involved in refuelling your vehicle is likely to be less with any EV than with an ICE for the same annual mileage is a sound one.
And as for your bleating about flat-dwellers not be able to charge at home, they can't refuel their ICEV from home either, so what's the difference. In either case you need to take your car to a refuelling station.
There is a huge difference Dan. My local fuel station is less than a quarter of a mile away from my home. And to charge an ev would require a journey of 20 miles or more to recharge.. |
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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 10:51:07 GMT
You dont have a full ev , so your comment is irrelevant to the discussion comparing ev to petrol/ diesel in terms of charging/filling. No, the process is the same whether BEV or PHEV.
zany hasn't informed us if he has a plug in hybrid , or a self charging hybrid , and no , the process isnt the same. As I understand it , they are both being banned along with petrol and diesel , from 2030 ( ?) so why use something that will soon be obsolete , not to mention a different process to plug in EEV , to sell full EVs? Its dishonesty of the highest order. |
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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 10:52:01 GMT
You dont have a full ev , so your comment is irrelevant to the discussion comparing ev to petrol/ diesel in terms of charging/filling.
If charging at home you're likely to be snoozing through the whole thing anyway so who cares?
whats that got to do with the original argument about the time taken to charge compared to filling a petrol or diesel? Another diversion. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 12, 2024 10:52:23 GMT
No, the process is the same whether BEV or PHEV. The only difference between the two is the amount of time taken to charge to the desired level.
If charging at home you're likely to be snoozing through the whole thing anyway so who cares?
Zany's point that the time you need to personally be involved in refuelling your vehicle is likely to be less with any EV than with an ICE for the same annual mileage is a sound one.
And as for your bleating about flat-dwellers not be able to charge at home, they can't refuel their ICEV from home either, so what's the difference. In either case you need to take your car to a refuelling station.
There is a huge difference Dan. My local fuel station is less than a quarter of a mile awy from my home. And to charge an ev would require a journey of 20 miles or more to recharge.. I'm perfectly happy to acknowledge that an EV may not be an optimal solution for you, but you're not everybody. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2024 10:54:32 GMT
There is a huge difference Dan. My local fuel station is less than a quarter of a mile awy from my home. And to charge an ev would require a journey of 20 miles or more to recharge.. I'm perfectly happy to acknowledge that an EV may not be an optimal solution for you, but you're not everybody. I agree but the eco warriors see it as a one size that fits all. |
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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 10:56:16 GMT
You dont have a full ev , so your comment is irrelevant to the discussion comparing ev to petrol/ diesel in terms of charging/filling.
And as for your bleating about flat-dwellers not be able to charge at home, they can't refuel their ICEV from home either, so what's the difference. In either case you need to take your car to a refuelling station.
you dont even have an ev yet. , you hypocritical individual , so what are you talking about bleating and flat earth dwellers for? you are defending a technology you dont have the balls to go out and purchase. "im thinking about it" lmfao. As for charging , fuelling from home , the point of course is one of the selling points of EVs is the ability to charge from home , which is largely impossible from a flat , and the lack of charging infrastructure away from home. Not to mention the longer time taken to re charge compared to petro land diesel. Again , more cost , more inconvenience. We fall back each and every argument to the same sticking points. |
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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 10:57:23 GMT
There is a huge difference Dan. My local fuel station is less than a quarter of a mile awy from my home. And to charge an ev would require a journey of 20 miles or more to recharge.. I'm perfectly happy to acknowledge that an EV may not be an optimal solution for you, but you're not everybody. The majority dont have EVs , and unlike to purchase one as things stand , so you pro EV individuals aren't representative of the majority either. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 12, 2024 10:57:34 GMT
No, the process is the same whether BEV or PHEV.
zany hasn't informed us if he has a plug in hybrid , or a self charging hybrid , and no , the process isnt the same. As I understand it , they are both being banned along with petrol and diesel , from 2030 ( ?) so why use something that will soon be obsolete , not to mention a different process to plug in EEV , to sell full EVs? Its dishonesty of the highest order. I believe Zany has already told us his Hyundai is a PHEV.
Hybrids can continue to be sold in the UK until 2035.
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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 10:59:42 GMT
zany hasn't informed us if he has a plug in hybrid , or a self charging hybrid , and no , the process isnt the same. As I understand it , they are both being banned along with petrol and diesel , from 2030 ( ?) so why use something that will soon be obsolete , not to mention a different process to plug in EEV , to sell full EVs? Its dishonesty of the highest order. I believe Zany has already told us his Hyundai is a PHEV.
Hybrids can continue to be sold in the UK until 2035.
where has he done that? Are you accusing me of lying? My point still stands. They are becoming obsolete . |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 12, 2024 10:59:43 GMT
I'm perfectly happy to acknowledge that an EV may not be an optimal solution for you, but you're not everybody. The majority dont have EVs , and unlike to purchase one as things stand , so you pro EV individuals aren't representative of the majority either. I'm neither pro nor contra. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2024 11:00:02 GMT
zany hasn't informed us if he has a plug in hybrid , or a self charging hybrid , and no , the process isnt the same. As I understand it , they are both being banned along with petrol and diesel , from 2030 ( ?) so why use something that will soon be obsolete , not to mention a different process to plug in EEV , to sell full EVs? Its dishonesty of the highest order. I believe Zany has already told us his Hyundai is a PHEV.
Hybrids can continue to be sold in the UK until 2035.
Thats why it is only idiots who buy them. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 12, 2024 11:03:07 GMT
You dont have a full ev , so your comment is irrelevant to the discussion comparing ev to petrol/ diesel in terms of charging/filling. No, the process is the same whether BEV or PHEV. The only difference between the two is the amount of time taken to charge to the desired level.
If charging at home you're likely to be snoozing through the whole thing anyway so who cares?
Zany's point that the time you need to personally be involved in refuelling your vehicle is likely to be less with any EV than with an ICE for the same annual mileage is a sound one.
And as for your bleating about flat-dwellers not be able to charge at home, they can't refuel their ICEV from home either, so what's the difference. In either case you need to take your car to a refuelling station.
Wait a minute ! Aren’t you the one who welcomes the inconvenience of EVs because it will reduce the number of cars on the road ? When it is pointed out that if there was a full uptake of EVs there wouldn’t be enough charging stations to make EV refuelling viable then you will be telling us ‘ good there are too many vehicles on the road anyway ‘ right ? |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2024 11:05:28 GMT
No, the process is the same whether BEV or PHEV. The only difference between the two is the amount of time taken to charge to the desired level.
If charging at home you're likely to be snoozing through the whole thing anyway so who cares?
Zany's point that the time you need to personally be involved in refuelling your vehicle is likely to be less with any EV than with an ICE for the same annual mileage is a sound one.
And as for your bleating about flat-dwellers not be able to charge at home, they can't refuel their ICEV from home either, so what's the difference. In either case you need to take your car to a refuelling station.
Wait a minute ! Aren’t you the one who welcomes the inconvenience of EVs because it will reduce the number of cars on the road ? When it is pointed out that if there was a full uptake of EVs there wouldn’t be enough charging stations to make EV refuelling viable then you will be telling us ‘ good there are too many vehicles on the road anyway ‘ right ? Exactly. Try selling that bullshit to those who live in rural areas and count themselves lucky if a bus turns up once a week.. |
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