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Post by jonksy on Oct 15, 2024 10:04:56 GMT
With a bit of luck it will wipe them out competely mate...Even some of their paymasters are pouring scorn on 2T kier and his mob of no hopers... I don't think there is any walk of life that supports this Labour government, well with the exception of the EU and the illegal boat people, they are the only ones who are happy with this Labour government.And the usual lefty trolls...
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Post by Orac on Oct 15, 2024 10:14:08 GMT
I shouldn't need to spell it out andrea. Only a fool would think that just 20% of the voting publics is an andorsement of labour...I wonder how many of those who were not interested in voting were picked up on their own doorsteps to be taken to their nearest polling booths by he labour party reps? The next General Election 99.9% of the UK population will turn out, they'll be that pissed off with Labour and the destruction of this country they will be obliterated, and wont be in government for generations. Even if you can get rid of labour, the problem they represent will continue. There is a gigantic institutional wall set in place to stop anything at all being done to help the UK public in the domains that concern them. It may get to the point where a genuinely well intentioned government is elected in a massive landslide and they still can't do anything and make a declaration to that effect Ie "your elected government can no longer be said to be governing the country"
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Post by jonksy on Oct 15, 2024 10:16:26 GMT
The next General Election 99.9% of the UK population will turn out, they'll be that pissed off with Labour and the destruction of this country they will be obliterated, and wont be in government for generations. Even if you can get rid of labour, the problem they represent will continue. There is a gigantic institutional wall set in place to stop anything at all being done to help the UK public in the domains that concern them. It may get to the point where a genuinely well intentioned government is elected in a massive landslide and they still can't do anything and make a declaration to that effect Ie "your elected government can no longer be said to be governing the country" The swamp...
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 15, 2024 10:29:10 GMT
The next General Election 99.9% of the UK population will turn out, they'll be that pissed off with Labour and the destruction of this country they will be obliterated, and wont be in government for generations. Even if you can get rid of labour, the problem they represent will continue. There is a gigantic institutional wall set in place to stop anything at all being done to help the UK public in the domains that concern them. It may get to the point where a genuinely well intentioned government is elected in a massive landslide and they still can't do anything and make a declaration to that effect Ie "your elected government can no longer be said to be governing the country" I think this is the first time in history the Monarchy is a risk, I think William and George could be the last of the Monarchs, it will remain to be seen how much power is behind the Monarchy when it become more than evident that the socialist extremists are a real threat to their existence.
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 15, 2024 10:30:08 GMT
If people wanted to pay higher taxes (they don't) they would not have voted for a party that had this in their manifesto. 'Labour will not increase taxes on working people, which is why we will not increase national insurance, the basic, higher, or additional rates of income tax, or VAT.'
What is popular is the idea that someone else should pay higher taxes...
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Post by Orac on Oct 15, 2024 10:38:34 GMT
Even if you can get rid of labour, the problem they represent will continue. There is a gigantic institutional wall set in place to stop anything at all being done to help the UK public in the domains that concern them. It may get to the point where a genuinely well intentioned government is elected in a massive landslide and they still can't do anything and make a declaration to that effect Ie "your elected government can no longer be said to be governing the country" I think this is the first time in history the Monarchy is a risk, I think William and George could be the last of the Monarchs, it will remain to be seen how much power is behind the Monarchy when it become more than evident that the socialist extremists are a real threat to their existence. I agree. I think the monarchy is at risk. The obvious rationale will be this - If it can't / wont use its influence as correction when things get this bad, what on Earth is it using its influence to do instead?
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 15, 2024 10:47:09 GMT
I think this is the first time in history the Monarchy is a risk, I think William and George could be the last of the Monarchs, it will remain to be seen how much power is behind the Monarchy when it become more than evident that the socialist extremists are a real threat to their existence. I agree. I think the monarchy is at risk. The obvious rationale will be this - If it can't / wont use its influence as correction when things get this bad, what on Earth is it using its influence to do instead? Time after time we see the Monarchy cowering to the woke snowflakes, William/Kate are all for this diversity nonsense, little realising the more they cower down to them the less chance they have of surviving, why they have not learnt from the late Queen, and how she thrived and was respected, and didn't bow to all this woke.
I read that when William becomes King he does not want to be the head of the church England, he wants to be more multicultural, when I read that I thought well that's the end of the Monarchy.
In coronation oaths prescribed by parliament in 1689, the King will swear, among other things, to “maintain and preserve inviolately” the establishment of the Church of England and the rights and privileges of its clergy. The monarch has been supreme head of the Church of England since 1558.
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Post by piglet on Oct 15, 2024 11:16:01 GMT
God help us, no pun intended, betrayed by our own. My god.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 15, 2024 12:21:02 GMT
If people wanted tax cuts, they would have voted Tory... Nope. ...they voted for improvement of public services instead... Nope.
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Post by Vinny on Oct 15, 2024 12:31:19 GMT
If people wanted tax cuts, they would have voted Tory. They didn't, they voted for improvement of public services instead. Whether Labour’s policies work or not remains to be seen. Actually the Labour vote was significantly down from 2019. It was more about punishing the Tories than getting Labour in. And I seriously doubt Labour know how to improve public services, they just tax the arse off everyone and throw money into a black hole.
I don't like the Tories (their mismanagement of Covid resulted in one of my friends dying).
I don't like Labour either.
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 15, 2024 12:57:29 GMT
Reform UK are "within reach" of taking the lead in a national poll as Nigel Farage's populist party cut Labour’s lead to just six per cent in a shock opinion. The Party just needs two points from Labour and the Tories to draw level.
The change marks a huge change since July 4, with Labour down by seven-points and the Conservatives up by around three per cent. According to the More in Common’s poll, Labour ended up level with the Tory Party on 27 per cent.
While Reform UK has soared to 21 per cent. Former Ukip donor, Arron Banks shared the results on social media and said: "Leading a national poll is within reach for Reform".
www.gbnews.com/politics/politics-latest-reform-uk-polls-labour-conservatives-update Incredible isn't it. Reform UK are just three years old and even though Labour have just won a 'landslide' election victory, Reform are polling 21%, remarkable. No doubt Reform UK's success will have an impact on the Tory vote, but I think Labour advisors will be very aware that voters, both Labour and Tory, are concerned about immigration and that's the reason they're turning to Reform UK.
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 15, 2024 12:59:07 GMT
If people wanted tax cuts, they would have voted Tory. They didn't, they voted for improvement of public services instead. Whether Labour’s policies work or not remains to be seen. Actually the Labour vote was significantly down from 2019. It was more about punishing the Tories than getting Labour in. And I seriously doubt Labour know how to improve public services, they just tax the arse off everyone and throw money into a black hole.
I don't like the Tories (their mismanagement of Covid resulted in one of my friends dying).
I don't like Labour either.
Indeed Vin, as mad as it sounds Corbyn was more popular that Starmer.
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Post by Vinny on Oct 15, 2024 13:01:50 GMT
He was, as barking as he is, he was more popular than stark raving mad Starmer.
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Post by zanygame on Oct 15, 2024 13:16:27 GMT
If people wanted to pay higher taxes (they don't) they would not have voted for a party that had this in their manifesto. 'Labour will not increase taxes on working people, which is why we will not increase national insurance, the basic, higher, or additional rates of income tax, or VAT.'
What is popular is the idea that someone else should pay higher taxes... But not the super rich apparently who remain untouched. Instead its business again which gets the bum deal. Employers NI going up and ever increasing minimum wage.
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Post by zanygame on Oct 15, 2024 13:18:51 GMT
He was, as barking as he is, he was more popular than stark raving mad Starmer. Corbyn was worst of a worst lot. Starmer is best of a worst lot. That's what enabled many Tories to move across.
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