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Post by Montegriffo on Dec 12, 2022 14:09:46 GMT
Okay, agree might be a better word than support. Do you agree with them? Are you in any way sympathetic to the cause espoused by the German coup plotters?
I say Whoiney, you do seem somewhat keen to lay some kind of accusation at the door of other posters. First Sandy, now Mags. It must be very important to you.
Personally, I find the coup plotters rather fun. After all as Mao said: "Politics is war without bloodshed, while war is politics with bloodshed" so the odd coup is nothing more than the rough & tumble of political life.
They should be given a slap on the wrist and sent on their way. Silly buggers.
Did you miss the bit about stockpiles of weapons and explosives or are you just choosing to ignore it?
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 12, 2022 14:17:34 GMT
Well you have to have those if you want to be taken seriously. I mean, you can't just walk in and say: "This is a coup". It doesn't work like that.
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Post by sandypine on Dec 12, 2022 14:18:36 GMT
I do not think I ever have, we know however they are illegal migrants and/or asylum seekers as that is exactly what the border force say. If you are without your passport in France you do not have to go through a court procedure, the police can just deport you as being in France with no permission to do so. Same here unless you claim asylum. That is the way some law works. However, having said that and but, a criminal offence such as these people are accused of does require a court case to be undertaken and proven until then they are suspects. Oh, I see. We know that the migrants are illegals (which would make them criminals) because the border force say so. But we don't know that these people belonged to a terrorist organisation just because the German officials say so. You're digging yourself deeper, Sandy. You should have given up at least 10 posts ago. I thought you were the law expert. If an official asks to see your passport as you enter the UK and you do not but still enter, no court case is required to call you an illegal entrant. All that is needed is the sayso of the border force official. The same for speeding, if a camera says you are guilty that is what you are, you can appeal but that is from a position of guilt.
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Post by Montegriffo on Dec 12, 2022 14:37:19 GMT
Well you have to have those if you want to be taken seriously. I mean, you can't just walk in and say: "This is a coup". It doesn't work like that. You weren't taking them very seriously a minute ago when you said ''They should be given a slap on the wrist and sent on their way. Silly buggers.'' Is that how you felt about PIRA? Or ISIS?
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 12, 2022 14:38:09 GMT
Oh, I see. We know that the migrants are illegals (which would make them criminals) because the border force say so. But we don't know that these people belonged to a terrorist organisation just because the German officials say so. You're digging yourself deeper, Sandy. You should have given up at least 10 posts ago. I thought you were the law expert. If an official asks to see your passport as you enter the UK and you do not but still enter, no court case is required to call you an illegal entrant. All that is needed is the sayso of the border force official. The same for speeding, if a camera says you are guilty that is what you are, you can appeal but that is from a position of guilt. Eh? No court case was required to arrest these people, either. That comes later, just as it would in the case of not showing a passport above.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2022 15:21:04 GMT
Well you have to have those if you want to be taken seriously. I mean, you can't just walk in and say: "This is a coup". It doesn't work like that. The French and English revolutions would have been funny if they required permission by the state.
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 12, 2022 15:24:39 GMT
Well you have to have those if you want to be taken seriously. I mean, you can't just walk in and say: "This is a coup". It doesn't work like that. The French and English revolutions would have been funny if they required permission by the state.
Are you justifying their actions? There was no democratically elected government in power in France or England.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 12, 2022 15:29:37 GMT
Well you have to have those if you want to be taken seriously. I mean, you can't just walk in and say: "This is a coup". It doesn't work like that. You weren't taking them very seriously a minute ago when you said ''They should be given a slap on the wrist and sent on their way. Silly buggers.'' Is that how you felt about PIRA? Or ISIS? They weren't attempting a coup - they were foreign terrorists.
We simply don't do coups in the UK.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2022 15:30:07 GMT
The French and English revolutions would have been funny if they required permission by the state.
Are you justifying their actions? There was no democratically elected government in power in France or England. Are you a leftist smear merchant?
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 12, 2022 15:34:59 GMT
Are you justifying their actions? There was no democratically elected government in power in France or England. Are you a leftist smear merchant? I'm the all-girl pop combo, the Spice girls. Are you sympathetic to the plotters' cause?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2022 15:41:38 GMT
Are you a leftist smear merchant? I'm the all-girl pop combo, the Spice girls. Are you sympathetic to the plotter's cause? What was the cause? Nobody else is allowed to even question or even know the cause without being accused of supporting terrorism on this forum by the self-appointed Morality Police.
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 12, 2022 15:45:00 GMT
I'm the all-girl pop combo, the Spice girls. Are you sympathetic to the plotter's cause? What was the cause? Nobody else is allowed to even question or even know the cause without being accused of supporting terrorism on this forum by the self-appointed Morality Police. If you excuse their actions, or say their actions are understandable, then you are supporting terrorism. Just as you would be supporting terrorism if you said that ISIS' actions were understandable.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 12, 2022 15:50:14 GMT
Are you sympathetic to the plotters' cause? Ohh, that question again. I like it. Is there an "I couldn't give a flying fiddlyfuck" option? Because I'd like that one please.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2022 15:51:02 GMT
What was the cause? Nobody else is allowed to even question or even know the cause without being accused of supporting terrorism on this forum by the self-appointed Morality Police. If you excuse their actions, or say their actions are understandable, then you are supporting terrorism. Just you would be supporting terrorism if you said that ISIS' actions were understandable. What cause? What actions?
If you're going to continue accusing members of the forum of supporting terrorism then maybe you could explain these things to us.
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 12, 2022 15:52:02 GMT
If you excuse their actions, or say their actions are understandable, then you are supporting terrorism. Just you would be supporting terrorism if you said that ISIS' actions were understandable. What cause? What actions?
If you're going to continue accusing members of the forum of supporting terrorism then maybe you could explain these things to us. See the first four or five pages, Cuddles.
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