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Post by Bentley on Oct 11, 2024 13:49:10 GMT
I oppose anyone who is hostile to LGBT people, but I am not a racist. If large sections of the Nigerian population or Diaspora are anti-LGBT, then THEY have a problem, not me, and not gay people. I will oppose Kemi Badenoch because of her views, NOT because she is of Nigerian heritage. Same with the attitudes of certain sections of the Pakistani community, and their outdated views on women, I oppose such views ( what some mistakenly refer to as "Muslim grooming gangs" ), its far too dangerous to start condemning either the entire Muslim population, or to be nearer to the truth, the entire population of those with Pakistani heritage. Well you made a pretty good stab at a generalised condemnation of an ethnic group or two. The back pedal in the last sentence didn’t hide it well. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 11, 2024 13:54:28 GMT
Lefties will be adding black Nigerians to the ethnic race baiting list soon .
So far it’s been a list of one ..White people.
We might find Asians are added if we get enough Asian politicians that reject woke and question high immigration.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 11, 2024 14:13:31 GMT
I oppose anyone who is hostile to LGBT people, but I am not a racist... Yet you've spent a considerable time singling out Nigerian Christians for criticism. ...I will oppose Kemi Badenoch because of her views... So if her heritage isn't relevant, why do you keep going on about it? You've already contradicted yourself, fiddles and now you're tying yourself in knots. 🤣 |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 11, 2024 14:16:27 GMT
Come on Witchy . Call her a coconut .
You know you want to 😁
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 11, 2024 14:17:22 GMT
I oppose anyone who is hostile to LGBT people, but I am not a racist... Yet you've spent a considerable time singling out Nigerian Christians for criticism. ...I will oppose Kemi Badenoch because of her views... So if her heritage isn't relevant, why do you keep going on about it? You've already contradicted yourself, fiddles and now you're tying yourself in knots. 🤣 If Badeoch was contesting for Labour leadership, and any of us 'rightists' said we opposed her because of her views the lefties would instantly without hesitation accuse of being racists .... LOL they are so predictable. |
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Post by witchfinder on Oct 11, 2024 14:32:41 GMT
I oppose anyone who is hostile to LGBT people, but I am not a racist. If large sections of the Nigerian population or Diaspora are anti-LGBT, then THEY have a problem, not me, and not gay people. I will oppose Kemi Badenoch because of her views, NOT because she is of Nigerian heritage. Same with the attitudes of certain sections of the Pakistani community, and their outdated views on women, I oppose such views ( what some mistakenly refer to as "Muslim grooming gangs" ), its far too dangerous to start condemning either the entire Muslim population, or to be nearer to the truth, the entire population of those with Pakistani heritage. Well you made a pretty good stab at a generalised condemnation of an ethnic group or two. The back pedal in the last sentence didn’t hide it well. No back pedaling what so ever A person who is either Homophobic or has unacceptable views on women does not hold those views because of their nationality, ethnicity or colour, they hold those views because of a cultural problem. The Christian Church in much of Africa is either fairly hostile or extremely hostile to LGBT people, but more especially towards gay men, possibly the best example would be Uganda. I have nothing against Ugandans because they are Ugandan, or because they are Christian, or because they are black, but I have an issue with anyone who holds such views - know the difference. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 11, 2024 14:36:47 GMT
Well you made a pretty good stab at a generalised condemnation of an ethnic group or two. The back pedal in the last sentence didn’t hide it well. No back pedaling what so ever A person who is either Homophobic or has unacceptable views on women does not hold those views because of their nationality, ethnicity or colour, they hold those views because of a cultural problem. The Christian Church in much of Africa is either fairly hostile or extremely hostile to LGBT people, but more especially towards gay men, possibly the best example would be Uganda. I have nothing against Ugandans because they are Ugandan, or because they are Christian, or because they are black, but I have an issue with anyone who holds such views - know the difference. Then why mention Nigerians and Pakistanis? More backpedaling . |
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Post by andrewbrown on Oct 11, 2024 14:59:01 GMT
The new Conservative leader will either be Robert Jenrick or Kemi Badenoch, and the Lib Dems in particular are rubbing their hands with glee. Some observers have likened the situation as "an early Christmas present" for Labour and the Lib Dems, both are on the Right wing of the party with some very contoversial views, so much so that the TRG Tory Reform Group have refused to endorse either of the candidates, with many moderates threataning to tear up their voting papers. According to most commentaters, Kemi Badenoch is the favourite amongst Tory Party members, but NOT amongst most Tory Party voters, for whom James Cleverly was the favourite. Mrs Badench is known for many things, in particular her hostile views on the LGBT community, something which comes naturally to so called "Christians" from Nigeria, or of Nigerian heritage. Even many Conservatives have likened the situation as the begining of the fall of Rome, one thing is now absolutely certain, the Tory civil war will get much worse, and with Reform UK on the sidelines, will there be a split, wil the Tory Party survive in its current form. You can almost smell the desperation from Labour here ^. Badenoch will slaughter Starmer in PMQs and will be the first Tory leader since Thatcher to actually be conservative. If she is, is that the end of the need for Reform UK? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 11, 2024 15:08:47 GMT
You can almost smell the desperation from Labour here ^. Badenoch will slaughter Starmer in PMQs and will be the first Tory leader since Thatcher to actually be conservative. If she is, is that the end of the need for Reform UK? No it's the end of the need for the Labour party. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 11, 2024 15:13:28 GMT
You can almost smell the desperation from Labour here ^. Badenoch will slaughter Starmer in PMQs and will be the first Tory leader since Thatcher to actually be conservative. If she is, is that the end of the need for Reform UK? I don’t know but that would be her goal imo. There would be some overlap but Badenoch might win over enough conservatives overwhelm Reform . She will have to . |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 11, 2024 15:17:03 GMT
If she wins we get two right wing parties instead of three left wing
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Post by thomas on Oct 11, 2024 15:21:49 GMT
You can almost smell the desperation from Labour here ^. Badenoch will slaughter Starmer in PMQs and will be the first Tory leader since Thatcher to actually be conservative. If she is, is that the end of the need for Reform UK? doubt it. While I agree badenoch will slaughter starmer at PMQs , lets be fair that isnt such a high bar. Even Rishi sunak was slaughtering starmer the other day with his I dont think even lord Ali will buy that one. Farage has already flagged up one of badenochs weakness when he pointed out she was championing more legal migration , and students bring in dependants previously , contrary to what reform voters want. I think both jenrick and badenoch are simply more of the same wet tory blankets that are being offered up to the members once again , for more of the same we have seen under the likes of sunak. I think the penny is dropping among the English that labour and tory are two cheeks of the same arse no matter who holds power and who leads. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 11, 2024 15:27:38 GMT
If she is, is that the end of the need for Reform UK? doubt it. While I agree badenoch will slaughter starmer at PMQs , lets be fair that isnt such a high bar. Even Rishi sunak was slaughtering starmer the other day with his I dont think even lord Ali will buy that one. Farage has already flagged up one of badenochs weakness when he pointed out she was championing more legal migration , and students bring in dependants previously , contrary to what reform voters want. I think both jenrick and badenoch are simply more of the same wet tory blankets that are being offered up to the members once again , for more of the same we have seen under the likes of sunak.I think the penny is dropping among the English that labour and tory are two cheeks of the same arse no matter who holds power and who leads.I would have liked fresh new faces for the Tory leadership, they needed to distance themselves from the 'old Tory' party, and why they lost, recycling the same old same old might not pay off in the long run, but out of who are on offer both Bandenoch and Jenrick are the only two who appear to be grass roots Tory right wing. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 11, 2024 15:30:48 GMT
No back pedaling what so ever... Except that: ...Mrs Badench is known for many things, in particular her hostile views on the LGBT community, something which comes naturally to so called "Christians" from Nigeria, or of Nigerian heritage... So a candidates background is relevant except when it isn't according to whether you agree with them or not. Like I said, hypocrisy. |
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Post by wapentake on Oct 11, 2024 15:48:28 GMT
Lefties will be adding black Nigerians to the ethnic race baiting list soon . So far it’s been a list of one ..White people. We might find Asians are added if we get enough Asian politicians that reject woke and question high immigration. I came across this looking at you tube and if you watch this Asian bloke talking sense between 6 minutes and 9:30 minutes in to the vid he gets called racist www.youtube.com/live/q-XviI8evHE?feature=shared |
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