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Post by vlk on Oct 14, 2022 22:13:33 GMT
Are the Tories already regretting their choice of the leader?
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Post by colbops on Oct 14, 2022 22:16:19 GMT
And what problems do we have at the moment that aren't also problems in other countries? longshore Drift?
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Post by sword on Oct 14, 2022 22:26:06 GMT
I think that Morgan has hit the nail on the head, everything the Government is doing appears to be wrong at the moment. I mentioned on another thread the dilemma facing Conservative voters, it is a problem. Nigel Farage, who has been right in most of his predictions writes this, www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/12/not-tackling-immigration-why-conservatives-will-wiped-next-election/At the last election many voted Tory because the alternative under Jeremy couldn't be contemplated, now people will vote Labour because continuing with the Tories can't be contemplated. Actually voting for labour under Corbyn could be contemplated by over ten million voters,and was.
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Post by andrewbrown on Oct 14, 2022 22:58:45 GMT
Are the Tories already regretting their choice of the leader? The PCP or the members? The former didn't vote for her and her efforts to "listen" to them are too late. As for the latter, bit irrelevant, but they are so out of touch that it's likely that the PCP will coalesce around a candidate and not give them a vote.
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 14, 2022 23:14:48 GMT
Are the Tories already regretting their choice of the leader? The Tories, as in the PCP (Parliamentary conservative party) given the shit they are in, probably regret getting rid of Boris, alas hindsight is a wonderful thing.
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Post by brexitcrusader83 on Oct 15, 2022 0:51:19 GMT
Tories have list their mandate.
Truss is an utterly disaster. If she resigns as expected, then the King should dissolve parliament and trigger a general election.
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 15, 2022 1:31:19 GMT
Tories have list their mandate. Truss is an utterly disaster. If she resigns as expected, then the King should dissolve parliament and trigger a general election. BC, the last thing the parliamentary conservative party want is an election. But it is something Truss should use to her advantage. She should hold a press conference and publicly tell the party to back her or she will call an election. Should that happen, and it could, just watch those pro EU centrist wankers on the Tory back benches fall into line. They won't risk an election two years before it's necessary, there are a lot of new Tory MP's in hitherto Labour seats who are getting used to an £84,000 salary plus generous perks.
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Post by B0ycey on Oct 15, 2022 7:31:47 GMT
Indeed Morgan. The polls suggest people want an election. If Truss was listening, that is what we have. We all know what she really means is that the last thing she wants in an election given she would be thrown out onto her ass.
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Post by andrewbrown on Oct 15, 2022 7:32:24 GMT
I don't think there's a way that they would all back her in that scenario. The question would be how many. I don't guarantee that she would win.
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Post by Morgan on Oct 15, 2022 7:53:04 GMT
Bit fucked on that one were you? Life's a bitch innit? Ouch, well if that touched a nerve just wait until they come for your benefits.
Still, you could do with losing some weight. It's no good you trying to convince yourself you are scoring points by making cheap jibes and assumptions. You'll have to try a bit harder.
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Post by jaydee on Oct 15, 2022 8:20:35 GMT
Rubbish, I would have thought it was obvious [to anyone but diehard Labour supporters] that the very last thing we need right now is an election. You cant judge a government after five minutes in office, well Morgan obviously can but we're not all as gifted as him lol. People who are rubbishing this government should have a look what's going on in other countries, currencies are crashing against the US dollar and €urozone interest rates are going up for the same reason they're going up in the UK, to stop inflation getting out of control. At the moment France is crippled with strikes, and in Germany they're lighting up coal fired power stations because they have no electricity. I suppose that's Liz Truss's fault too. What is rubbish about what Morgan says. Four Prime Ministers in 6 years. Four chancellors in 4 months. The worst performing economy in the G7. The debt out of control. More food banks in England than MacDonald's. Admitting the policy they have adopted since George Osborne was the Chancellor was wrong and after 12 years creating the disaster now on us. Then within a month. This clown wrecks the economy. Sacks a chancellor. Blaming him on her policy. Does a 180 on all policy. Lets just say. You and I have a different view what 5 minutes means. By the way as the mini budget turns out as a maxi disaster as the IMF in America give Kwarteng a earful. If one U turn is a right turn. Is a dozen several round abouts. In terms of your $ and Eurozone garbage. Those are caused by world events. The UK is self inflicted by this bunch of clowns. In terms of ranting coal fires in Germany. The Uk only relies on 4% of energy from Russia. The Uk has the north sea, which several months ago you ranted was running out of oil. Do you now believe me when I stated there is more left in it, than has been taken out. As riots are breaking out in England to stop further drilling and the Uk is crippled with strikes. Not to mention you are still at the good bit in England re energy. England will have to close some 8 nuclear power stations and built 9 new ones. And going by Hinkley Point that will come in at around £600 billion to the tax payer. Thats me. Now why do I have to pay for your energy on a product that Scotland exports by the bucket full. As you rant you have to pay others. And that matey is 100% down to the Conservatives. Who like PPE have ignored the issue since they took power. Or is that the fault of everybody else as well. Not to mention as you pay to drink your own excrement. England is expected to run out of water in the next 25 years. . As this bunch of total wankers are more interested in paying shareholders £57 billion than sorting the problem. England has two choices in that respect. Desalination. Going by California, as I understand you will get 5 gallons for a pound or buy it from Scotland. This is what England is facing. As you ignore it. All this matey ignored by your heroes. Now why should I pay for it. Oh you need a election. However far your head is stuck up the proverbial in denial. As I have said. You are still at the good bit mate. As the present incumbents in Westminster, like PPE, still ignore it. But what the hell as you root for them. . inews.co.uk/news/environment/england-run-out-of-water-25-years-scotland-is-the-answer-270651www.quora.com/How-much-does-a-water-desalination-plant-cost
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Post by jaydee on Oct 15, 2022 8:22:55 GMT
Ouch, well if that touched a nerve just wait until they come for your benefits.
Still, you could do with losing some weight. It's no good you trying to convince yourself you are scoring points by making cheap jibes and assumptions. You'll have to try a bit harder. Go easy on Nigel. He thinks a right wing neo nazi is left wing
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Post by Morgan on Oct 15, 2022 8:37:16 GMT
Hiya jaydee, long time no see. Keeping up the good works I see. Fit and well I trust?
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Post by jaydee on Oct 15, 2022 9:03:33 GMT
Hiya jaydee, long time no see. Keeping up the good works I see. Fit and well I trust? Nah not really. Knocking on for 80 I have been diagnosed with COPD or what ever the hell they call it. It was my own fault. Although not having smoked for some 40 years I was once a heavy smoker. For a while I could not walk the length of myself. But with treatment I can now get back out fishing and hill walking on the gentle slopes. The days of the Cuillins of Skye are well gone. So I will take this opportunity to any young bucks who smokes. Take it from me it has nothing going for it, And gasping for air at times. Trust me. It is no fun. But despite Covid, thanks to the NHS. Me and my good lady managed a seven week tour of France in my camper. I must have racked up about 4,000 miles So I am thankful for that. And as long as I can get fishing and my photography, with my wee dram of grouse at night. As my dear old dad used to say. I am as happy as a pig amongst shite. Hope you and yours are doing fine. By the way. Red is really a crakin guy. Misinformed but a crakin guy
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Post by Vinny on Oct 15, 2022 9:16:40 GMT
Liz Truss is abysmal, but so are the alternatives, Starmer and Davey. Lucas is away with the fairies and the SNP are insane.
For the first time ever I am considering not voting. Because there isn't any decent option, they're ALL shit.
Sure, there's the odd good MP and decent candidates, but no leader of any party is worthy of the job of Prime Minister at this time.
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