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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 13, 2024 11:28:16 GMT
Expert opinion lol!
Yes I've read that. Sunday Times, The Economist, FT, BBC, Oxford scholars. Most appear to have an agenda, as in paid propagandists.
If you don't know, i'll explain that Medieval academia was very strongly based on Greek classical texts. It's the combination of that and Christianity. The problem though was the Greeks were pagan and if you read the bible you would see the pagan goes straight to hell, no £200 collection.
I mean, you really want to argue because your mode of operation is adversarial. It's so deeply ingrained in your upbringing that it is hard to see you have been brainwashed by it without proof. You need to read an Edward de Bono book. Is a non-adversarial system possible without creating a Cambodia?
In a sense you are correct Baron. What you see as an adversarial attitude is deeply ingrained in our culture and psyche and has been since the time of the Renaissance.
This is in sharp contrast to China which, millenia ago at the time of Confucius, elected for a collectivist culture and societal model in which deference and conformity were rewarded and individualism deprecated and even punished.
Despite the Maoist interlude it is still the same today.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 13, 2024 17:51:29 GMT
Expert opinion lol!
Yes I've read that. Sunday Times, The Economist, FT, BBC, Oxford scholars. Most appear to have an agenda, as in paid propagandists.
If you don't know, i'll explain that Medieval academia was very strongly based on Greek classical texts. It's the combination of that and Christianity. The problem though was the Greeks were pagan and if you read the bible you would see the pagan goes straight to hell, no £200 collection.
I mean, you really want to argue because your mode of operation is adversarial. It's so deeply ingrained in your upbringing that it is hard to see you have been brainwashed by it without proof. You need to read an Edward de Bono book. Is a non-adversarial system possible without creating a Cambodia?
In a sense you are correct Baron. What you see as an adversarial attitude is deeply ingrained in our culture and psyche and has been since the time of the Renaissance.
This is in sharp contrast to China which, millenia ago at the time of Confucius, elected for a collectivist culture and societal model in which deference and conformity were rewarded and individualism deprecated and even punished.
Despite the Maoist interlude it is still the same today.
Yes, according to wiki he was the first who advocated mass education.
In many ways it shares a lot with Christianity. This is why I think Britain and China could be friends and have a happy relationship. This is the opposite to my view on Islam where I think Islam will force, by threat of death, compliance with a brutal system. I've looked at a lot of 19th century British manufacturers and those of the early 20c. There seemed to be a fair few Christians who built highly successful business. When there is peace there is prosperity.
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Post by besoeker3 on Oct 13, 2024 17:57:36 GMT
In a sense you are correct Baron. What you see as an adversarial attitude is deeply ingrained in our culture and psyche and has been since the time of the Renaissance.
This is in sharp contrast to China which, millenia ago at the time of Confucius, elected for a collectivist culture and societal model in which deference and conformity were rewarded and individualism deprecated and even punished.
Despite the Maoist interlude it is still the same today.
Yes, according to wiki he was the first who advocated mass education.
In many ways it shares a lot with Christianity. This is why I think Britain and China could be friends and have a happy relationship. This is the opposite to my view on Islam where I think Islam will force, by threat of death, compliance with a brutal system. I've looked at a lot of 19th century British manufacturers and those of the early 20c. There seemed to be a fair few Christians who built highly successful business. When there is peace there is prosperity.
Why don't you go to China and see what it is really like?
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 13, 2024 18:10:30 GMT
Yes, according to wiki he was the first who advocated mass education.
In many ways it shares a lot with Christianity. This is why I think Britain and China could be friends and have a happy relationship. This is the opposite to my view on Islam where I think Islam will force, by threat of death, compliance with a brutal system. I've looked at a lot of 19th century British manufacturers and those of the early 20c. There seemed to be a fair few Christians who built highly successful business. When there is peace there is prosperity.
Why don't you go to China and see what it is really like? You keep on saying the same thing. Move on to another idea or your brain will get stuck.
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Post by besoeker3 on Oct 13, 2024 18:55:45 GMT
Why don't you go to China and see what it is really like? You keep on saying the same thing. Move on to another idea or your brain will get stuck. And YOU keeping avoiding the issue.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 13, 2024 19:00:52 GMT
You keep on saying the same thing. Move on to another idea or your brain will get stuck. And YOU keeping avoiding the issue. That's because it is off topic and you can't contribute a singe thing that is on topic.
This isn't Facebook. I'm trying to create and intellectual discussion, if you ever saw such a thing. The adversarial culture to me seems like a primitive inheritance. Indeed there are many practices we do where they are no longer relevant to the times. Do you agree we should continue as our culture dictates or try doing things differently?
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Post by besoeker3 on Oct 13, 2024 19:30:13 GMT
And YOU keeping avoiding the issue. That's because it is off topic and you can't contribute a singe thing that is on topic.
This isn't Facebook. I'm trying to create and intellectual discussion, if you ever saw such a thing. The adversarial culture to me seems like a primitive inheritance. Indeed there are many practices we do where they are no longer relevant to the times. Do you agree we should continue as our culture dictates or try doing things differently?
And you still can't contribute the issue of YOUR discussion on China.
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