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Post by see2 on Oct 6, 2024 5:06:25 GMT
I hope I have not duplicated a thread From today Express Nigel Farage says MPs must be permitted to scrutinise the details of Sir Keir Starmer's deal to hand over sovereignty of the Chagos Islands to Mauritius - describing the decision as a "surrender". However, Stephen Doughty, who as Minister of State for Europe, North America and Overseas Territories has day-to-day responsibility for the issue, has dismissed concerns over the future of Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands. Mr Farage, posting on X, said: "Parliament must be able to scrutinise Starmer's decision to hand over the Chagos Islands - before a treaty is signed. "I have written to @davidlammy to request an urgent debate and a vote in the House on Monday. "This surrender was not in the Labour manifesto." And was done when the House was not sitting How can the correction of a wrong be a "surrender"? Mind you some good might come from your post as it shows just how misleading Farage and the Daily Express can be. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 6, 2024 6:48:01 GMT
The people of the Falkland Islands wish to remain British citizens, as do the people of Gibraltar, and this cannot be connected to the disgracefull way in which the UK treated the inhabitants of The Chagos Islands. Its people that matter NOT geography The Chagosian people have campaigned for decades for a fair outcome, and for recognition of what this country did to them.
Handing them over to Mauritius (who have always treated them like shit) is not what the Chagosian people have campaigned for. This is the issue that I am most surprised of - a Labour Party that does not even involve the peoples of the islands in the discussions and takes no notice of their views. Robin Cook and his 'ethical foreign policy' will be spinning in his grave. He would, but I will say did he not resign because his masters chose to fuck him and do their thing anyway I know a little about ethical foreign policies When to sell a submarine with deeply flawed control systems to the Jews would have been a breach, John major's arse fuckers declassified the project and sold it as tractor parts using the same fuckwittery as Allivane International did to sell cluster bombs made by the former UK Ferranti's US partner ISC to Saddam Hussein. Which is how the Jews are in possession of a submarine that when depth charged beyond a certain degree breaks the surface and steams north. I last saw it painted Cambridge blue and floating on the surface going through the Suez Canal in breach of weapons treaties.... |
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 6, 2024 6:50:40 GMT
I hope I have not duplicated a thread From today Express Nigel Farage says MPs must be permitted to scrutinise the details of Sir Keir Starmer's deal to hand over sovereignty of the Chagos Islands to Mauritius - describing the decision as a "surrender". However, Stephen Doughty, who as Minister of State for Europe, North America and Overseas Territories has day-to-day responsibility for the issue, has dismissed concerns over the future of Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands. Mr Farage, posting on X, said: "Parliament must be able to scrutinise Starmer's decision to hand over the Chagos Islands - before a treaty is signed. "I have written to @davidlammy to request an urgent debate and a vote in the House on Monday. "This surrender was not in the Labour manifesto." And was done when the House was not sitting How can the correction of a wrong be a "surrender"? Mind you some good might come from your post as it shows just how misleading Farage and the Daily Express can be. I'll remind you of that when he hands Las Malvinas to the Argies in exchange for their solemn undertaking (broken 5 min later) to.not drill for oil which he will laud and applaud as a victory for net zero |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 6, 2024 8:59:34 GMT
The only fucking shithouse is 2T starmer fiddles. yet again he acted on behalf of himself and not the inhabitants the Chagos Islands. I wonder how much the arsehole is expecting from the undiclosed bribery amount paid out yearly by you me and the other taxpayers of the UK? Oh no, you lead Starmer by a country mile when it comes to being a "shithouse" See2 is a shithouse, he gets away with a lot of abuse which we would be reported for, he's a nasty bitter old nutter, like most of the lefty loons. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 6, 2024 9:09:49 GMT
Oh no, you lead Starmer by a country mile when it comes to being a "shithouse" See2 is a shithouse, he gets away with a lot of abuse which we would be reported for, he's a nasty bitter old nutter, like most of the lefty loons. Nah, he's a shithead: A shit house has a useful purpose.  |
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Post by thomas on Oct 6, 2024 10:23:09 GMT
How can the correction of a wrong be a "surrender"? Mind you some good might come from your post as it shows just how misleading Farage and the Daily Express can be. I'll remind you of that when he hands Las Malvinas to the Argies in exchange for their solemn undertaking (broken 5 min later) to.not drill for oil which he will laud and applaud as a victory for net zero thats the point though isnt it John. By all reports the argies are already smelling weakness , could the Spanish be next over Gibraltar? Slippery slope , but to be fair to starmer , he is merely one among three recent uk prime ministers to hand over sovereignty of uk territory in one way or the other . |
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Post by thomas on Oct 6, 2024 10:34:55 GMT
I hope I have not duplicated a thread From today Express Nigel Farage says MPs must be permitted to scrutinise the details of Sir Keir Starmer's deal to hand over sovereignty of the Chagos Islands to Mauritius - describing the decision as a "surrender". However, Stephen Doughty, who as Minister of State for Europe, North America and Overseas Territories has day-to-day responsibility for the issue, has dismissed concerns over the future of Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands. Mr Farage, posting on X, said: "Parliament must be able to scrutinise Starmer's decision to hand over the Chagos Islands - before a treaty is signed. "I have written to @davidlammy to request an urgent debate and a vote in the House on Monday. "This surrender was not in the Labour manifesto." And was done when the House was not sitting How can the correction of a wrong be a "surrender"? Mind you some good might come from your post as it shows just how misleading Farage and the Daily Express can be. all overseas territories , and former empire enclaves , as well as the multi national situation In the uk state itself , including the glaringly obvious issues in Northern Ireland could be construed as wrongs that need corrected. So the point that is being made , rightly or wrongly , is that handing back the Chagos Islands could be the start of the dominoes falling. I really do agree with the journalist Andrew Neil when he commented how poor a politician starmer actually is and how out of his depth he appears , especially with all the infighting that is alleged to be going on. I mean his timing is incredibly poor , and pr practically non existent. He appears to be a delusional fool , badly advised , drunk on his own power , but incredibly unaware of how unpopular he is . I will be surprised if starmer remains pm for five years , and I do believe labour will be a one term wonder. |
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Post by witchfinder on Oct 6, 2024 11:45:18 GMT
PARLIAMENT
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The UK Parliament now has a huge Labour Party majority, and Nigel Farage is "concerned" that this issue was not put before Parliament. What does Nigel Farage think the outcome would be if the issue was in fact put before The House of Commons. ?
Bearing in mind that the Labour Party is by tradition a party of Decolonozation
The outcome would have been that The Chagos Islands would have been rightfully returned to Mauritius.
PARLIAMENT & INTERNATIONAL LAW
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Where the United Kingdom is party to, and signatory to any international treaty, agreement or law, then the United Kingdom government must abide by decisions made.
THE PARLIAMENT OF THE UK SHOULD NOT SUPERCEDE OR DEVIATE FROM RULINGS MADE MY INTERNATIONAL LAWS WHICH WE ARE PARTY TO.
The International Court Of Justice had ruled that the United Kingdom should complete its decolonization of Mauritius ( acceptance by the International Court that The Chagos Islands ARE part of Mauritius ).
The United Nations Convention For The Laws Of The Sea has ruled that "The United Kingdom has no juristiction over the waters surrounding The Chagos Islands, because The Chagos Islands rightfully belong to Mauritius".
THE CHAGOSIAN PEOPLE
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The inhabitants of the islands who were forcibly removed by the British, they mostly went to Mauritius, and as such they lost both their homes and way of life. Many fell into poverty, and for many years they campaigned to return back to their homes, some still wish to go back.
POSTERS TALK SHITE ABOUT "not consulting the Chagos Islands people"
This is precisely what the Chagos Islanders always wanted, to have the opportunity which the UK denied them, to go back to their homes.
An apology would be a good idea too for one of the most shamefull episodes in modern British history.
Nigel Farage can F**k Right off, and I hope he's simply ignored
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Post by jonksy on Oct 6, 2024 12:27:40 GMT
PARLIAMENT ---------- The UK Parliament now has a huge Labour Party majority, and Nigel Farage is "concerned" that this issue was not put before Parliament. What does Nigel Farage think the outcome would be if the issue was in fact put before The House of Commons. ? Bearing in mind that the Labour Party is by tradition a party of Decolonozation The outcome would have been that The Chagos Islands would have been rightfully returned to Mauritius. PARLIAMENT & INTERNATIONAL LAW ------------------------------ Where the United Kingdom is party to, and signatory to any international treaty, agreement or law, then the United Kingdom government must abide by decisions made. THE PARLIAMENT OF THE UK SHOULD NOT SUPERCEDE OR DEVIATE FROM RULINGS MADE MY INTERNATIONAL LAWS WHICH WE ARE PARTY TO. The International Court Of Justice had ruled that the United Kingdom should complete its decolonization of Mauritius ( acceptance by the International Court that The Chagos Islands ARE part of Mauritius ). The United Nations Convention For The Laws Of The Sea has ruled that "The United Kingdom has no juristiction over the waters surrounding The Chagos Islands, because The Chagos Islands rightfully belong to Mauritius". THE CHAGOSIAN PEOPLE -------------------- The inhabitants of the islands who were forcibly removed by the British, they mostly went to Mauritius, and as such they lost both their homes and way of life. Many fell into poverty, and for many years they campaigned to return back to their homes, some still wish to go back. POSTERS TALK SHITE ABOUT "not consulting the Chagos Islands people" This is precisely what the Chagos Islanders always wanted, to have the opportunity which the UK denied them, to go back to their homes. An apology would be a good idea too for one of the most shamefull episodes in modern British history. Nigel Farage can F**k Right off, and I hope he's simply ignored Well farage has fucked you off fiddles..Still that's an easy thing to do... |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 6, 2024 12:45:35 GMT
PARLIAMENT ---------- The UK Parliament now has a huge Labour Party majority, and Nigel Farage is "concerned" that this issue was not put before Parliament. What does Nigel Farage think the outcome would be if the issue was in fact put before The House of Commons. ? Bearing in mind that the Labour Party is by tradition a party of Decolonozation The outcome would have been that The Chagos Islands would have been rightfully returned to Mauritius. PARLIAMENT & INTERNATIONAL LAW ------------------------------ Where the United Kingdom is party to, and signatory to any international treaty, agreement or law, then the United Kingdom government must abide by decisions made. THE PARLIAMENT OF THE UK SHOULD NOT SUPERCEDE OR DEVIATE FROM RULINGS MADE MY INTERNATIONAL LAWS WHICH WE ARE PARTY TO. The International Court Of Justice had ruled that the United Kingdom should complete its decolonization of Mauritius ( acceptance by the International Court that The Chagos Islands ARE part of Mauritius ). The United Nations Convention For The Laws Of The Sea has ruled that "The United Kingdom has no juristiction over the waters surrounding The Chagos Islands, because The Chagos Islands rightfully belong to Mauritius". THE CHAGOSIAN PEOPLE -------------------- The inhabitants of the islands who were forcibly removed by the British, they mostly went to Mauritius, and as such they lost both their homes and way of life. Many fell into poverty, and for many years they campaigned to return back to their homes, some still wish to go back. POSTERS TALK SHITE ABOUT "not consulting the Chagos Islands people" This is precisely what the Chagos Islanders always wanted, to have the opportunity which the UK denied them, to go back to their homes. An apology would be a good idea too for one of the most shamefull episodes in modern British history. Nigel Farage can F**k Right off, and I hope he's simply ignored Did that nasty Mr Farage touch a nerve, fiddles? Still, at least you accept that we don't live in a democracy. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 6, 2024 12:54:44 GMT
How can the correction of a wrong be a "surrender"? Mind you some good might come from your post as it shows just how misleading Farage and the Daily Express can be. I'll remind you of that when he hands Las Malvinas to the Argies in exchange for their solemn undertaking (broken 5 min later) to.not drill for oil which he will laud and applaud as a victory for net zero Yes, please do that. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 6, 2024 12:58:05 GMT
PARLIAMENT ---------- The UK Parliament now has a huge Labour Party majority, and Nigel Farage is "concerned" that this issue was not put before Parliament. What does Nigel Farage think the outcome would be if the issue was in fact put before The House of Commons. ? Bearing in mind that the Labour Party is by tradition a party of Decolonozation The outcome would have been that The Chagos Islands would have been rightfully returned to Mauritius. PARLIAMENT & INTERNATIONAL LAW ------------------------------ Where the United Kingdom is party to, and signatory to any international treaty, agreement or law, then the United Kingdom government must abide by decisions made. THE PARLIAMENT OF THE UK SHOULD NOT SUPERCEDE OR DEVIATE FROM RULINGS MADE MY INTERNATIONAL LAWS WHICH WE ARE PARTY TO. The International Court Of Justice had ruled that the United Kingdom should complete its decolonization of Mauritius ( acceptance by the International Court that The Chagos Islands ARE part of Mauritius ). The United Nations Convention For The Laws Of The Sea has ruled that "The United Kingdom has no juristiction over the waters surrounding The Chagos Islands, because The Chagos Islands rightfully belong to Mauritius". THE CHAGOSIAN PEOPLE -------------------- The inhabitants of the islands who were forcibly removed by the British, they mostly went to Mauritius, and as such they lost both their homes and way of life. Many fell into poverty, and for many years they campaigned to return back to their homes, some still wish to go back. POSTERS TALK SHITE ABOUT "not consulting the Chagos Islands people" This is precisely what the Chagos Islanders always wanted, to have the opportunity which the UK denied them, to go back to their homes. An apology would be a good idea too for one of the most shamefull episodes in modern British history. Nigel Farage can F**k Right off, and I hope he's simply ignored Well farage has fucked you off fiddles..Still that's an easy thing to do... If Farage was a grown up fully mentally mature individual, his comments just might mean something, he isn't, he's only any good at misleading the easily led. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 6, 2024 13:01:29 GMT
The irony.🤣
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 6, 2024 17:08:48 GMT
I'll remind you of that when he hands Las Malvinas to the Argies in exchange for their solemn undertaking (broken 5 min later) to.not drill for oil which he will laud and applaud as a victory for net zero thats the point though isnt it John. By all reports the argies are already smelling weakness , could the Spanish be next over Gibraltar? Slippery slope , but to be fair to starmer , he is merely one among three recent uk prime ministers to hand over sovereignty of uk territory in one way or the other . i think it is the issue at hand, not least because if i understand correctly the islanders in the indian ocean, who i personally think were treated pretty badly they were thrown off diego garcia, were not asked about this now The key thing about the falklands being the fact that blair was forced to agree to consider the wishes of the islanders. Given the shitty way this country was treated by the USA in various aspects i’m not that wortied how apoplectic they might get now. My only real worry is an arse in number ten who seems to have acted without consultation might be seen as a pushover by the argis now. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 6, 2024 17:11:12 GMT
PARLIAMENT ---------- The UK Parliament now has a huge Labour Party majority, and Nigel Farage is "concerned" that this issue was not put before Parliament. What does Nigel Farage think the outcome would be if the issue was in fact put before The House of Commons. ? Bearing in mind that the Labour Party is by tradition a party of Decolonozation
The outcome would have been that The Chagos Islands would have been rightfully returned to Mauritius. I hate to point it out but it was the Labour Party who expelled the Chagosians in the first place. The Chagos Islanders most certainly did not want to be handed over to Mauritious - a country that has treated them like shit for the past 6 decades. |
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