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Post by ratcliff on Oct 5, 2024 19:14:48 GMT
I'll do better than that, I'll give you an example. Thatcher's government 1979 to 1990. Check out what she did and what she accomplished before replying.You think the Thatcher government was 'hard right'! Incredible. We have never had a hard right or far right government in this country. For Christs sake go back to school. Don't forget that in his delusional opinion anyone who isn't completely in step with his ultra lefty opinions is a hard right fascist He doesn't have a clue and is either a Labour internet bot or a dribbling bitter old fool |
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Post by see2 on Oct 5, 2024 19:15:15 GMT
Sorry, but I am afraid that you have very little idea of what "populism" really meansAt one time the far right of the Conservative party were on the fringes of the party, the best known group was called "The Monday Club", but the populists have grown and grown, and the Tory party is now where Labour was a few years ago, bitterly divided. Centre Right is TRADITIONAL Conservatism, recognisable to Sir Edward Heath, Sir John Major, Harold MacMillan, Nicholas Soames, the grandson of Sir Winston Churchill and many current and recent Conservative MPs. These people would have had nothing to do with culture wars, xenophobia or isolationism, or rejecting the norms of the international rule of law. Most traditional Tories reject Reform UK, and the only reason that Reform UK have had some limited success is because some of their support also comes from disaffected working class, usually Labour voters, the kind of people who will vote for Populism, but will not vote for a more traditional Conservative Party. In 2019 the plannets were well aligned fot the Tories ... a Left wing nutter leading Labour, and Brexit, but things are very different now. Even most traditional Tory voters want the NHS to be repaired, for our railways to actually work properly, and an end to years of stagnation and decay. 2T keir is as popular as a fart in a spacesuit.. Fiddles You mean he is actually more popular than yourself LOL |
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Post by see2 on Oct 5, 2024 19:16:40 GMT
You think the Thatcher government was 'hard right'! Incredible. We have never had a hard right or far right government in this country. For Christs sake go back to school. Don't forget that in his delusional opinion anyone who isn't completely in step with his ultra lefty opinions is a hard right fascist He doesn't have a clue and is either a Labour internet bot or a dribbling bitter old fool Righties have to lie ^^^, otherwise they would have nothing to say. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 5, 2024 19:17:47 GMT
You think the Thatcher government was 'hard right'! Incredible. We have never had a hard right or far right government in this country. For Christs sake go back to school. Don't forget that in his delusional opinion anyone who isn't completely in step with his ultra lefty opinions is a hard right fascist He doesn't have a clue and is either a Labour internet bot or a dribbling bitter old foolDon't you mean Tool? |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 5, 2024 19:22:05 GMT
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Post by ratcliff on Oct 5, 2024 19:22:07 GMT
You think the Thatcher government was 'hard right'! Incredible. We have never had a hard right or far right government in this country. For Christs sake go back to school. IIRC you are not even aware of the social and economic damage done to this country by the "stocking footed semi-fascist Thatcher. Who would have gone much further but for the H-of-Ls keeping her in some form of check. Your fixed unprovable opinions make you a liar.
you still repeating this utter b*llocks? I have already shown where this unreferenced supposed ''quote'' was c&p from by you A GCSE essay site You omitted the end of the paragraph you copied this from viz: As evidence of the use of “fascism” as a catch-all term of political abuse Professor Richard Griffiths notes that “From differing points of view the IRA, the RUC, Robert Mugabe, Mrs Thatcher, Slobodan Milosevic, President Clinton, the Daily Telegraph, Sir Winston Churchill, General de Gaulle, the Tate Modern, Opus Dei, Old Labour, New Labour… and even the Pope have all at one time or another been described as “fascist” |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 5, 2024 19:27:03 GMT
Sorry, but I am afraid that you have very little idea of what "populism" really means At one time the far right of the Conservative party were on the fringes of the party, the best known group was called "The Monday Club", but the populists have grown and grown, and the Tory party is now where Labour was a few years ago, bitterly divided. Centre Right is TRADITIONAL Conservatism, recognisable to Sir Edward Heath, Sir John Major, Harold MacMillan, Nicholas Soames, the grandson of Sir Winston Churchill and many current and recent Conservative MPs. These people would have had nothing to do with culture wars, xenophobia or isolationism, or rejecting the norms of the international rule of law. Most traditional Tories reject Reform UK, and the only reason that Reform UK have had some limited success is because some of their support also comes from disaffected working class, usually Labour voters, the kind of people who will vote for Populism, but will not vote for a more traditional Conservative Party. In 2019 the plannets were well aligned fot the Tories ... a Left wing nutter leading Labour, and Brexit, but things are very different now. Even most traditional Tory voters want the NHS to be repaired, for our railways to actually work properly, and an end to years of stagnation and decay. I know very well what populist is, other than Badenoch the people who are currently contesting the leadership of the conservative party could reasonably be described at 'populists', they are certainly not centre right Conservatives, and anyone who thinks Ted Heath or John (The Bastard) Major were centre right Conservatives dont understand what centre right Conservative means. You claim Reform UK have had 'some limited success'. Never in British political history has a party that is just three years old gained five MP's. It is completely unprecedented, yet you call it 'limited success', lol. Reform UK will continue to gain ground and you will of course continue to sneer, no biggie. The only fly in the ointment for Reform UK would be if the Tories moved back to the centre right, and to be honest I don't think that's going to happen. Which is great news for Farage and Reform UK. I am looking forward to the local elections in May, I suspect you may not be. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 5, 2024 19:29:20 GMT
You think the Thatcher government was 'hard right'! Incredible. We have never had a hard right or far right government in this country. For Christs sake go back to school. IIRC you are not even aware of the social and economic damage done to this country by the "stocking footed semi-fascist Thatcher. Who would have gone much further but for the H-of-Ls keeping her in some form of check. Your fixed unprovable opinions make you a liar. Indeed, Thatcher was so unpopular she was elected three times and was the longest serving prime minister of the 20th century. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 5, 2024 21:35:20 GMT
2T keir is as popular as a fart in a spacesuit.. Fiddles You mean he is actually more popular than yourself LOL Starmers Government is now less popular that then the previous Sunak administration... and they were shit.  This really has to be the most inept Government since WW2. |
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