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Post by jonksy on Oct 3, 2024 8:19:09 GMT
Number of Tory members wanting merger with Farage's Reform revealed in bombshell poll.......
More than half (53 percent) of Conservative members want the party to merge with Nigel Farage's Reform UK party, according to a new poll.
The poll, which surveyed 470 Tory members between 23-27 September for Liz Truss' right-wing Popular Conservatism (PopCon) group, also found that seven in 10 members want a closer relationship with Reform......
It comes as the Conservative Party conference comes to an end. All four candidates for party leader had 20 minutes on stage today to sell their vision to members.
The issue of Mr Farage's surging party has divided the candidates. Kemi Badenoch said she was prepared to work with Reform in Parliament but ruled out an electoral pact. Meanwhile, Conservative leadership hopeful Tom Tugendhat has warned against his party becoming Reform UK.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 3, 2024 10:00:52 GMT
Good news.
Sad for the Tories that they don't seem able to face up to reality yet.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 3, 2024 10:09:42 GMT
Good news. Sad for the Tories that they don't seem able to face up to reality yet. I think there will be a few from the "bribes R us" party wanting to join reform after the budget...
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Post by piglet on Oct 3, 2024 10:12:10 GMT
It should do what it says on the tin, be Conservative. Cameron is guilty of the most heinous act of sabotage ever, turning the Blues yellow. The Tory conference should have been discussing how to become MORE conservative.
The future is to bat for Britain, british people, or face armageddon. In everyday life, if you go out into the world handing over all your goodies, you wont last long. Thats where we arte. We need a Hitler, without the genocide, yup the opposite to multi culturalism.
VIVA GRANDE BRITTANIA.
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Post by Dogburger on Oct 3, 2024 10:24:55 GMT
And zero Reform members want a merge with the Tories .Reform will not be tainted with a Tory pact though Im sure will welcome anyone of good character that wants to come over
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Post by witchfinder on Oct 4, 2024 14:48:57 GMT
The Tories are divided
If they go Populist as Liz Truss wants, they lose many thousands of traditional Tory voters in the Conservative heartlands.
If they go down the traditional Conservative road, there's no chance of winning back Red Wall seats or working class areas that voted Tory in 2019.
In effect they cant win
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Post by jonksy on Oct 4, 2024 14:54:07 GMT
The Tories are dividedIf they go Populist as Liz Truss wants, they lose many thousands of traditional Tory voters in the Conservative heartlands. If they go down the traditional Conservative road, there's no chance of winning back Red Wall seats or working class areas that voted Tory in 2019. In effect they cant win So are labour but mein fuhere starmer stifles that fiddles...
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Post by jonksy on Oct 4, 2024 15:00:08 GMT
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 4, 2024 15:20:47 GMT
And zero Reform members want a merge with the Tories .Reform will not be tainted with a Tory pact though Im sure will welcome anyone of good character that wants to come over Wokery destroyed the Tories. If Tories move to Reform or even merge, they will be merging all that wokery nonsense and we will be back to the position of "no real choice". Tories opted for wokery, so they should run with it and compete with Labour on who is the woker or the two. Meanwhile Reform should not worry about them. For Reform to succeed they need to put all their mental effort into figuring out the right policies they should run with, and as always the trickiest of the lot is how to make the economy grow. It should not be neglected or passed off with metaphors. Voters always vote with their pockets. If by the next election some bright analyst calculates the top five growing constituencies GDP wise are those run by Reform then that would be cool!
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Post by see2 on Oct 4, 2024 15:39:46 GMT
The Tories are dividedIf they go Populist as Liz Truss wants, they lose many thousands of traditional Tory voters in the Conservative heartlands. If they go down the traditional Conservative road, there's no chance of winning back Red Wall seats or working class areas that voted Tory in 2019. In effect they cant win So are labour but mein fuhere starmer stifles that fiddles... You have been lying and twisting reality for years, exposing your Rightist 'Dark Legend' DNA, you are a disgrace to the human race.
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Post by see2 on Oct 4, 2024 15:43:11 GMT
A specter ^^^ that heralds a sickness for mankind.
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Post by see2 on Oct 4, 2024 15:48:40 GMT
And zero Reform members want a merge with the Tories .Reform will not be tainted with a Tory pact though Im sure will welcome anyone of good character that wants to come over Wokery destroyed the Tories. If Tories move to Reform or even merge, they will be merging all that wokery nonsense and we will be back to the position of "no real choice". Tories opted for wokery, so they should run with it and compete with Labour on who is the woker or the two. Meanwhile Reform should not worry about them. For Reform to succeed they need to put all their mental effort into figuring out the right policies they should run with, and as always the trickiest of the lot is how to make the economy grow. It should not be neglected or passed off with metaphors. Voters always vote with their pockets. If by the next election some bright analyst calculates the top five growing constituencies GDP wise are those run by Reform then that would be cool! The use of the word Wokery, in its many isms, is the cowards, especially Rightists cowards, way of avoiding serious debate.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 4, 2024 16:04:18 GMT
Wokery destroyed the Tories. If Tories move to Reform or even merge, they will be merging all that wokery nonsense and we will be back to the position of "no real choice". Tories opted for wokery, so they should run with it and compete with Labour on who is the woker or the two. Meanwhile Reform should not worry about them. For Reform to succeed they need to put all their mental effort into figuring out the right policies they should run with, and as always the trickiest of the lot is how to make the economy grow. It should not be neglected or passed off with metaphors. Voters always vote with their pockets. If by the next election some bright analyst calculates the top five growing constituencies GDP wise are those run by Reform then that would be cool! The use of the word Wokery, in its many isms, is the cowards, especially Rightists cowards, way of avoiding serious debate. Have you found out what ‘ far right ‘ means yet?
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Post by Totheleft on Oct 4, 2024 16:51:18 GMT
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Post by sandypine on Oct 4, 2024 17:29:36 GMT
Wokery destroyed the Tories. If Tories move to Reform or even merge, they will be merging all that wokery nonsense and we will be back to the position of "no real choice". Tories opted for wokery, so they should run with it and compete with Labour on who is the woker or the two. Meanwhile Reform should not worry about them. For Reform to succeed they need to put all their mental effort into figuring out the right policies they should run with, and as always the trickiest of the lot is how to make the economy grow. It should not be neglected or passed off with metaphors. Voters always vote with their pockets. If by the next election some bright analyst calculates the top five growing constituencies GDP wise are those run by Reform then that would be cool! The use of the word Wokery, in its many isms, is the cowards, especially Rightists cowards, way of avoiding serious debate. But we know what it means. Woke is the reality that one is aware of social injustice and racial discrimination. Wokery is assuming that everything is wrapped up in identity politics and social injustice and must be acted on and defeated at every level. It is a destructive force aligning all with a set of beliefs unvisited in the democratic process except as a vague target of equality for all. Is it Rightist to understand that?
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