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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 28, 2024 13:36:45 GMT
You best tell jonksy that. It was him or her who introduced it. I was just pointing out that that was where things were clearly steered away from the topic at hand jonksy pointed out the obvious to you, the BBC is one of many of the 'enemies within', Question Time is just one example of their bias right wing propaganda
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 28, 2024 13:50:09 GMT
Now you are trying to re-invent the whole basis of a tv show that has been on our screens for 45 years rather than concede that you misrepresented what happened and what was said on Thursday night’s show. Here you go ..
If you were in any doubt both you and andrea ... here is the proof, so calling people liars and diverting the subject ... here is your proof.
BBC's Fiona Bruce in Question Time 'bias' row after halting show for Reform correction BBC Question Time presenter Fiona Bruce was left red-faced after she was forced to issue a correction mid show after shutting down a Reform Party member.
No I don't work for the express ........ LOL
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 28, 2024 14:37:25 GMT
Of all the contributors around the table on last Thursdays QT, it was Reform UK's representative who had the least idea, no answers and only ridiculous solutions to problems. He said ( and I quote ) that "the Royal Navy could take the boats back and place them back onto French beaches" What an idiot, and THATS the Reform UK answer to this problem He said this without any idea of what the French authorities or government would feel about such a plan which would involve British vessels entering French territorial waters, then landing migrants who are neither French or British onto French soil. Boris Johnson tried to stop the boats, as did Rishi Sunak, and if it was as simple as what Reform UK will have you believe, then why did not the Conservative government do it. ? The new government are going to try a different approach, by tying together different agencies, including British Inteligence and Interpol, and track down and stop the human traffikers with a new agency "Border Security Command", which is currently been set up. THe only conclusion that anyone can draw from looking at the whole situation, is that Reform UK have no credible, sensible or legal answers to this problem. You are wrong. If the British government stopped illegals entering UK waters, by force if necessary, international law would be on the governments side. UNCLOS (United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea) Section 4 Article 33 clearly states: 1. In a zone contiguous to its territorial sea, the coastal State may exercise the control necessary to: (a) Prevent infringement of its customs, fiscal, immigration or sanitary laws and regulations within its territory or territorial sea. (b) Punish infringement of the above laws and regulations committed within its territory or territorial sea. www.un.org/depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/unclos_e.pdfFurthermore, both the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR, 1950) [9] and the Geneva Refugee Convention (GRC, 1951) [10] stipulate that people may not be returned to a state with a precarious human rights situation. (France does not have a precarious human rights situation) It is the captains responsibility to land those rescued at sea at a port of his choice, the only proviso laid down under UN international law is that it must be a safe port. (French ports are safe) There is not one single law national or international, that says illegal immigrants rescued in the English channel must be taken to the UK. If French authorities refused to allow vessels to return rescued illegals at French ports it would be a matter for the French, no doubt the EU, and international courts to sort out. It has nothing to do with the UK. That's the law.
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 28, 2024 14:41:38 GMT
Bruce has highlighted how dim some lefties are, she has chaired Question Time for a number of years now, she knows like many lefties how many illegal migrants are entering the UK, given that FACT Bruce is a 'British journalist' who fronts BBC 'politics' Question Time, and she DID NOT KNOW, that the UK per capita take in more asylum seekers/migrants than France .... The bigger question to be asked, given her credentials .......... WHY DID SHE NOT KNOW THIS FACT??
Why do many other lefties not know these facts, they should not be in journalism or hosting political programmes if they do not even know basic facts like Yusuf pointed out. ........ fire the silly bias lefty bint.
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 28, 2024 14:53:21 GMT
I gave you the benef of the doubt earlier that you misunderstood. I explained that she asked who voted Reform WHO WANTED TO SPEAK not "who voted Reform". I'd already explained this to you, so I cam only assume that your lying. As I said, you're better than this. pipe down andrea, there were three show of hands confirming they were either Reform voters or supporters, it doesn't matter how many time you do a see2 and call people righies lies it wont wash like it doesn't with him, THREE SHOW OF REFORM HANDS, that's all we need to know, we can only assume you are lying or you can't count. (post deleted as it contained no content besides personal abuse)
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 28, 2024 14:58:22 GMT
pipe down andrea, there were three show of hands confirming they were either Reform voters or supporters, it doesn't matter how many time you do a see2 and call people righies lies it wont wash like it doesn't with him, THREE SHOW OF REFORM HANDS, that's all we need to know, we can only assume you are lying or you can't count. It fucking matters what the question is you retard. I gave you the chance. Now I know you're just a liar. Grow up andrea, the fact you are swearing at me and being abusive which we know YOU would report other posters for especially jonksy, it is now in the 'national press' Bruce is a bias lefty, who tried to belittle and discredit a Reform panelist and came embarrassingly UNSTUCK.
Now stop with the personal abuse even though I'm not a cry baby like you running to the mods, someone else might report your abuse.
You are embarrassing yourself.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 28, 2024 15:09:37 GMT
pipe down andrea, there were three show of hands confirming they were either Reform voters or supporters, it doesn't matter how many time you do a see2 and call people righies lies it wont wash like it doesn't with him, THREE SHOW OF REFORM HANDS, that's all we need to know, we can only assume you are lying or you can't count. It fucking matters what the question is you retard. I gave you the chance. Now I know you're just a liar. Usual ad homs from andrea...
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Post by happyjack on Sept 28, 2024 15:09:47 GMT
Now you are trying to re-invent the whole basis of a tv show that has been on our screens for 45 years rather than concede that you misrepresented what happened and what was said on Thursday night’s show. Here you go ..
If you were in any doubt both you and andrea ... here is the proof, so calling people liars and diverting the subject ... here is your proof.
BBC's Fiona Bruce in Question Time 'bias' row after halting show for Reform correction BBC Question Time presenter Fiona Bruce was left red-faced after she was forced to issue a correction mid show after shutting down a Reform Party member.
No I don't work for the express ........ LOL
If you did work for The Express then that might explain your enthusiasm for misrepresenting what people have said to cast them in an unfair and unfavourable light - so what is your excuse for doing this? The Express is misreporting here in much the same way that I describe how you misrepresented the events and the dialogue above (although, in its defence, it does not do so to the same degree or scale as you have done). What I describe above is what happened on the show. Instead of lapping up the skewed misreporting of the notoriously biased Express, why don’t you just view the relevant section of QT on iplayer and review the truth of the matter directly for yourself?
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 28, 2024 15:15:07 GMT
Here you go ..
If you were in any doubt both you and andrea ... here is the proof, so calling people liars and diverting the subject ... here is your proof.
BBC's Fiona Bruce in Question Time 'bias' row after halting show for Reform correction BBC Question Time presenter Fiona Bruce was left red-faced after she was forced to issue a correction mid show after shutting down a Reform Party member.
No I don't work for the express ........ LOL
If you did work for The Express then that might explain your enthusiasm for misrepresenting what people have said to cast them in an unfair and unfavourable light - so what is your excuse for doing this? The Express is misreporting here (in much the same way that I describe how you misrepresented the events and the dialogue above, although, in its defence it does not do so to the same degree or scale as you have done). What I describe above is a what happened on the show. Instead of lapping up the skewed reporting of the notoriously biased Express, why don’t you just view the relevant section of iplayer and review the truth of the matter directly for yourself? So now posters on here who are saying Bruce is a bias lefty who got caught out for her bias, so 1.3 million viewers didn't notice her bias ...... LOL
The Express like many posters on here were well on to her bias lefty nasty attitude to the Reform 'guest', I suppose the only credit I can give you is you didn't turn to personal nasty abuse like andrea because you have been proven WRONG.
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 28, 2024 15:17:17 GMT
It fucking matters what the question is you retard. I gave you the chance. Now I know you're just a liar. Usual ad homs from andrea... andrea would have hit the report button if me or you would have called him a 'retard', but hey-ho he is a typical double standard lefty hypocrite.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 28, 2024 15:20:20 GMT
Usual ad homs from andrea... andrea would have hit the report button if me or you would have called him a 'retard', but hey-ho he is a typical double standard lefty hypocrite.
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Post by happyjack on Sept 28, 2024 15:20:44 GMT
It fucking matters what the question is you retard. I gave you the chance. Now I know you're just a liar. Usual ad homs from andrea... What course of action do you think he should have taken when faced with someone who continues to ignore the truth despite it being pointed out to him or her and despite a recording of the incident being readily available for review?
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 28, 2024 15:21:55 GMT
andrea would have hit the report button if me or you would have called him a 'retard', but hey-ho he is a typical double standard lefty hypocrite. Spot on.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 28, 2024 15:23:35 GMT
Usual ad homs from andrea... What course of action do you think he should have taken when faced with someone who continues to ignore the truth despite it being pointed out to him or her and despite a recording of the incident being readily available for review? The lefties wouldn't know the truth if they fell arse over tit on it...
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 28, 2024 15:25:52 GMT
Usual ad homs from andrea... What course of action do you think he should have taken when faced with someone who continues to ignore the truth despite it being pointed out to him or her and despite a recording of the incident being readily available for review? He has resorted to personal abuse, not content with calling another poster a 'retard' he also called me a 'liar', this moral high ground poster will report other posters for less abuse, do not defend a poster who resorts to personal abuse, andrea knows the rules, he's forever quoting them, and he knows he's just crossed the line. ... BIG TIME.
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