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Post by borchester on Sept 22, 2024 13:14:52 GMT
As far as I can see, the NHS seems to be ticking over easily enough, the economy is doing so well that tens of thousands of foreigners are desperate to risk life and limb to get here, the politicians are no more corrupt than usual and one way and another things seem pretty good.
So what is your take on the matter ?
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 22, 2024 13:42:14 GMT
Yeah, things seem okay. Let's see how they manage to fuck it up.
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 22, 2024 13:52:48 GMT
As far as I can see, the NHS seems to be ticking over easily enough, the economy is doing so well that tens of thousands of foreigners are desperate to risk life and limb to get here, the politicians are no more corrupt than usual and one way and another things seem pretty good. So what is your take on the matter ? Everything happening right now is still under Tory rules, the NHS and the economy, once dickhead has his first Budget then Labour will kick in, so ask the same question this time next year, when the impact of a Labour government will be in full swing. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 22, 2024 14:43:56 GMT
As far as I can see, the NHS seems to be ticking over easily enough, the economy is doing so well that tens of thousands of foreigners are desperate to risk life and limb to get here, the politicians are no more corrupt than usual and one way and another things seem pretty good. So what is your take on the matter ? Everything happening right now is still under Tory rules, the NHS and the economy, once dickhead has his first Budget then Labour will kick in, so ask the same question this time next year, when the impact of a Labour government will be in full swing. I agree but I couldn't see the Tories giving Junior doctors or train drivers such lavish pay rises.. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 22, 2024 14:45:16 GMT
The Tories of course offered junior doctors the same increase. 🫠🙃
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 22, 2024 14:49:07 GMT
The Tories of course offered junior doctors the same increase. 🫠🙃 No they didn't. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 22, 2024 14:50:26 GMT
The Tories of course offered junior doctors the same increase. 🫠🙃 No they didn't anrea... |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 22, 2024 15:30:09 GMT
As far as I can see, the NHS seems to be ticking over easily enough, the economy is doing so well that tens of thousands of foreigners are desperate to risk life and limb to get here, the politicians are no more corrupt than usual and one way and another things seem pretty good. So what is your take on the matter ? Everything happening right now is still under Tory rules, the NHS and the economy, once dickhead has his first Budget then Labour will kick in, so ask the same question this time next year, when the impact of a Labour government will be in full swing. Well exactly. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 22, 2024 21:04:18 GMT
The Tories of course offered junior doctors the same increase. 🫠🙃 No they didn't. Whoops, of course I meant the train drivers. You could have just corrected me. |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 22, 2024 21:13:22 GMT
Whoops, of course I meant the train drivers. You could have just corrected me. Well that wasn't the same either - the Tories were insisting that any wage rise was contingent on changes to working practices. Labour dropped all reforms to working practices and just agreed to pay more. Hence the £22 Billion 'Black hole' |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 22, 2024 22:04:30 GMT
Whoops, of course I meant the train drivers. You could have just corrected me. Well that wasn't the same either - the Tories were insisting that any wage rise was contingent on changes to working practices. Labour dropped all reforms to working practices and just agreed to pay more. Hence the £22 Billion 'Black hole' As I said, they offered the same money. That was my point. I agree that Labour dropped the reforms, hence why the deal was accepted. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Sept 22, 2024 22:24:59 GMT
As far as I can see, the NHS seems to be ticking over easily enough, the economy is doing so well that tens of thousands of foreigners are desperate to risk life and limb to get here, the politicians are no more corrupt than usual and one way and another things seem pretty good. So what is your take on the matter ? I see, so these African primitive people are now economics professors. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Sept 22, 2024 22:30:16 GMT
As far as I can see, the NHS seems to be ticking over easily enough, the economy is doing so well that tens of thousands of foreigners are desperate to risk life and limb to get here, the politicians are no more corrupt than usual and one way and another things seem pretty good. So what is your take on the matter ? Everything happening right now is still under Tory rules, the NHS and the economy, once dickhead has his first Budget then Labour will kick in, so ask the same question this time next year, when the impact of a Labour government will be in full swing. Well I suppose you have to consider which is better. Rishi, the man who knows a thing or two about money (that's why he is so rich) but is totally crap at interviews and speeches, or would you rather someone who has a very big mouth, the gift of the gab but has the economic know-how of someone like Diane Abbott? |
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Post by witchfinder on Sept 22, 2024 22:52:59 GMT
Under the last incompetent government, doctors, nurses and most public sector workers firstly had a pay freeze imposed upon them - Then they were offered pay rises BELOW the rate of inflation.
In other words they endured a period of a decline in living standards, hence the reason why we now have staff shortages in our NHS and recruitment problems.
Our NHS is in a deplorable state thanks to the last government, our public finances are also in a terrible state, the remedy to fix these problems will ineverteby result in much moaning and complaint from those that caused the problems in the first place.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 23, 2024 2:19:45 GMT
Well that wasn't the same either - the Tories were insisting that any wage rise was contingent on changes to working practices. Labour dropped all reforms to working practices and just agreed to pay more. Hence the £22 Billion 'Black hole' That was my point. I agree that Labour dropped the reforms, hence why the deal was accepted. No they didn't......
New Tory threat to jobs and conditions and RMT statement on General Election ......
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