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Post by Pacifico on Oct 9, 2024 21:45:50 GMT
If the lefties dont like her then she can’t be all bad . It's notable that that those most of those opposed to Bedenoch becoming leader are those that would never vote tory anyway.
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 10, 2024 0:06:31 GMT
I watched Blair being interviewed some time before he became PM, I had an instinctive feeling that he was untruthful, that he played to the gallery and that he was not to be trusted and I couldn't understand why I seemed to be alone in that impression. I feel the same about Badenoch, I remember seeing her treating the Speaker disrespectfully and I thought that she came across as simply a black person with attitude and not someone to hold high office. I have absolutely no problem with her being a black person, but I do have a problem with her aggressive attitude, she could do well to take lessons on courtesy from Jacob Rees Mogg. It doesn't matter who becomes leader, the Tory Party are full of lefties and a new leader will simply be ousted if he/she starts coming out with Conservative views, they are about as electable as the Monster Raving Loony Party. You may be right, we may be witnessing the begining of the end of the oldest political party in the world, although I think the rot started in 2010, however. I think if the next election, and I know things are going to different in five years time, was straight race between Labour and the Tories, the Tories would walk it. Unfortunately, there's a rather large fly in the ointment in the form of Nigel Farage. Incredibly Reform UK were gaining ground under a Tory government, but under this Labour government Farage doesn't have to do anything, this government will make Reform UK the fastest growing party in British political history. And I agree, Sir Jacob is not only extremely well informed but always extremely polite.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 10, 2024 0:14:48 GMT
I watched Blair being interviewed some time before he became PM, I had an instinctive feeling that he was untruthful, that he played to the gallery and that he was not to be trusted and I couldn't understand why I seemed to be alone in that impression. I feel the same about Badenoch, I remember seeing her treating the Speaker disrespectfully and I thought that she came across as simply a black person with attitude and not someone to hold high office. I have absolutely no problem with her being a black person, but I do have a problem with her aggressive attitude, she could do well to take lessons on courtesy from Jacob Rees Mogg. It doesn't matter who becomes leader, the Tory Party are full of lefties and a new leader will simply be ousted if he/she starts coming out with Conservative views, they are about as electable as the Monster Raving Loony Party. You may be right, we may be witnessing the begining of the end of the oldest political party in the world, although I think the rot started in 2010, however. I think if the next election, and I know things are going to different in five years time, was straight race between Labour and the Tories, the Tories would walk it. Unfortunately, there's a rather large fly in the ointment in the form of Nigel Farage. Incredibly Reform UK were gaining ground under a Tory government, but under this Labour government Farage doesn't have to do anything, this government will make Reform UK the fastest growing party in British political history. And I agree, Sir Jacob is not only extremely well informed but always extremely polite. Sir Jacob is a true Tory....I read a report today where starmer is now minus 33 in the popularity ratings. This is all good news for reform..
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 10, 2024 0:23:22 GMT
Sir Jacob is a true Tory....I read a report today where starmer is now minus 33 in the popularity ratings. This is all good news for reform.. It's hard to believe how unpopular this government is. As you say after just a couple of months Starmers ratings have fallen off a cliff. And the best bit is, we havent had the budget yet, and post budget I imagine support for Reform UK will surge. Just in time for the local elections in May
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Post by ProVeritas on Oct 10, 2024 2:58:00 GMT
Neither of who are fit to hold such high office. But then, same can be said of Labour's "top table" as well. Robert "Blow Job" Jenrick is an incompetent buffoon. All The Best It sounds as if, like millions of other people, you will be voting for Mr Farage next time. I'd rather eat my own toenail clippings. All The Best
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Post by patman post on Oct 10, 2024 14:37:08 GMT
If the lefties dont like her then she can’t be all bad . It's notable that that those most of those opposed to Bedenoch becoming leader are those that would never vote tory anyway. Eh?
Looks like 65% of Tory MP's didn't want her — so it's now down to the membership, who, if you remember, gave us Liz Truss...
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 10, 2024 14:41:11 GMT
It's notable that that those most of those opposed to Bedenoch becoming leader are those that would never vote tory anyway. Eh?
Looks like 65% of Tory MP's didn't want her — so it's now down to the membership, who, if you remember, gave us Liz Truss...
over 65% of Tory MP's didn't want Brexit either - they are not exactly representative of any majority..
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Post by ProVeritas on Oct 10, 2024 15:32:02 GMT
Eh?
Looks like 65% of Tory MP's didn't want her — so it's now down to the membership, who, if you remember, gave us Liz Truss...
over 65% of Tory MP's didn't want Brexit either - they are not exactly representative of any majority.. True, but they were dumb enough to vote for Truss, the most disastrously inept PM in British History. All The Best
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Post by jonksy on Oct 10, 2024 15:45:29 GMT
It sounds as if, like millions of other people, you will be voting for Mr Farage next time. I'd rather eat my own toenail clippings.All The Best Mind you don't choke. You may have too with the shit show we now have infesting the HOC and No10...
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Post by ProVeritas on Oct 10, 2024 15:54:17 GMT
I'd rather eat my own toenail clippings.All The Best Mind you don't choke. You may have too with the shit show we now have infesting the HOC and No10... A dementia riddled, paraplegic, hamster would be a better PM than Nigel "please pay me for not doing my job" Farage. All The Best
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Post by Bentley on Oct 10, 2024 16:04:27 GMT
over 65% of Tory MP's didn't want Brexit either - they are not exactly representative of any majority.. True, but they were dumb enough to vote for Truss, the most disastrously inept PM in British History. All The Best Starmer says “ hold my beer” .
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Post by jonksy on Oct 10, 2024 16:21:39 GMT
Mind you don't choke. You may have too with the shit show we now have infesting the HOC and No10... A dementia riddled, paraplegic, hamster would be a better PM than Nigel "please pay me for not doing my job" Farage. All The Best I am still waiting for you to prove he takes bungs?
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 10, 2024 16:46:24 GMT
over 65% of Tory MP's didn't want Brexit either - they are not exactly representative of any majority.. True, but they were dumb enough to vote for Truss, the most disastrously inept PM in British History. All The Best She wasn't that great but she has been shown to be correct - growth is needed urgently, we cannot go on as we have been.
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Post by ProVeritas on Oct 10, 2024 16:57:59 GMT
True, but they were dumb enough to vote for Truss, the most disastrously inept PM in British History. All The Best She wasn't that great but she has been shown to be correct - growth is needed urgently, we cannot go on as we have been. So she said "we need growth". Great - the most economically inept person ever understands that. Where she was completely wrong was in how she tried to achieve that, in fact she achieved the exact opposite. All The Best
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 10, 2024 17:44:42 GMT
She wasn't that great but she has been shown to be correct - growth is needed urgently, we cannot go on as we have been. So she said "we need growth". Great - the most economically inept person ever understands that. Where she was completely wrong was in how she tried to achieve that, in fact she achieved the exact opposite. All The Best Well she achieved exactly zilch - she had no effect as she was in power for such a short amount of time. What she was proposing would have led to more growth but that is history.
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