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Post by see2 on Oct 1, 2024 16:46:27 GMT
I make a distinction between hard right and far right. The latter are racist extremists, phobes, neo-Nazis and people of that ilk. The hard right on the other hand are people very economically and socially right wing, but still mainstream, Some parties like Reform garner support from both. It would thus be wrong in my view to regard every supporter of Reform as far right. But it would also be wrong to say that none of them are. Which is simply another "Because I say so" opinion with no evidential basis. "Phobes", "Racists" etc are just more meaningles subjective smears used to describe people that you disagree with. Hmm, language designed to educate Rightists are meaningless subjective smears. A fine example of the 'dark' side of Rightist DNA. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 1, 2024 16:47:54 GMT
Your dishonesty overwhelms you.   You couldn't recognise the truth if it bit you on the arse. Thanks for proving MY point. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 1, 2024 16:48:44 GMT
You couldn't recognise the truth if it bit you on the arse. Thanks for proving MY point. The irony!  |
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Post by see2 on Oct 1, 2024 17:10:46 GMT
1. I refer to the AfD as being defined in Germany as Far-Right. It is NOT my label, it is the definition placed upon it in Germany. So do try to introduce a bit of honesty into your replies. 2. I never placed the definition of Far-Right on the AfD, I have only posted it as the German definition of the AfD, SO STOP LYING ABOUT ME. Put your Rightist crap to one side before replying. 3. I refer to posters as Rightist when they post comments that are beyond the Center Right of politics such as when they do their best to defend or ignore Far-Right movements in Western countries. 4. If you are ignorant of what the far-right is, that is not my fault, nor is it up to me to answer distorted, contrived and dishonest questions put to me. 5. Your post is exactly what I refer to as the 'Dark' side of Rightist DNA. 1) You said this, it certainly was your label at them time of posting: 2) Sorry, see no mention of you claiming this is the German definition, it reads like your own so no lies are made about you. 3) You say posters are ignoring movements of the far-right, yet many posters for the last 10 pages have been asking you what exactly is far right about the AfD. Perhaps if you weren't so intent on ducking and diving the question then such movement of the far-right could be addressed. But you prefer to muddle debate with vagueness because it seems you don't have the conviction and evidence to answer the questions asked of you. 4) Please don't project onto me, I am only asking YOU what makes the AfD far-right (like you claimed in the bolded quote above), when looking at their policy/manifesto. 5) Yes, your paranoia about 'fangs out' and the 'dark side' is evident throughout this exchange. You've seen one-too-many horror movies. 1. THE ONLY REASON I POSTED FAR-RIGHT was because that is the way it was described in Germany. That is what I read, how else would I have known?? 2. I have explained in numerous posts that AfD have been designated far-right in Germany. It has never been a definition made up by me. 3. Question is a contrived one used by some in order for them to make false insinuations / lies against myself. 4. I did not claim the AfD was Far-Right when looking at their policy/manifesto, so that is a lie made up by you. 5. My reference to Far-Right 'Fangs Out' comes from the actions used by the far-right governments of: Galtieri, Pinochet, Franco and Hitler. Do you deny their history of Murder, Torture and or Rape of their own innocent citizens? |
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Post by see2 on Oct 1, 2024 17:11:31 GMT
Thanks for proving MY point. The irony! So now you offer a blank mind LOL |
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Post by see2 on Oct 1, 2024 17:19:14 GMT
The system is not a Who, it is a thing... Exactly . And a thing can't have a opinion nor can it define anything. Hence why I questioned your earlier assertion that: 2. The German Electoral System defines the AfD as far right, NOT ME... Because clearly it doesn't. So I aksed you who does make that definition exactly. Which you have so far been unable to answer. In the same way that you've been unable to define "Far Right". It is a system for clarification of what is taking place. And it does refer to the AfD as Far-Right. I have repeatedly posted I DO NOT DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THE Afd IS FAR-RIGHT. The Germans have made that decision, it is after all a German political party. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 1, 2024 18:11:48 GMT
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I have repeatedly posted I DO NOT DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THE Afd IS FAR-RIGHT. The Germans have made that decision, it is after all a German political party.“…
suggests that he believes the definition of far right differs between countries …OR…the posters is using another country’s definition to define far right differs…which itself suggests that he hasn’t a clue what the definition is.
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 1, 2024 21:31:48 GMT
"The Germans have made that decision"
What Germans?
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Post by sandypine on Oct 1, 2024 21:34:59 GMT
Exactly . And a thing can't have a opinion nor can it define anything. Hence why I questioned your earlier assertion that: Because clearly it doesn't. So I aksed you who does make that definition exactly. Which you have so far been unable to answer. In the same way that you've been unable to define "Far Right". It is a system for clarification of what is taking place. And it does refer to the AfD as Far-Right. I have repeatedly posted I DO NOT DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THE Afd IS FAR-RIGHT. The Germans have made that decision, it is after all a German political party. Do you accept that decision or are you just reporting that decision to the rest of us? If you accept it why do you do so? if you are just reporting it it is irrelevant as we have no information on what it means. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 1, 2024 21:55:06 GMT
"The Germans have made that decision"
What Germans? Ha ha, wake up before you post. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 1, 2024 22:00:47 GMT
It is a system for clarification of what is taking place. And it does refer to the AfD as Far-Right. I have repeatedly posted I DO NOT DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THE Afd IS FAR-RIGHT. The Germans have made that decision, it is after all a German political party. Do you accept that decision or are you just reporting that decision to the rest of us? If you accept it why do you do so? if you are just reporting it it is irrelevant as we have no information on what it means. Why should I reject the German definition of one of their own political Parties? Why do you continuously strive to undermine the definition of far right for the AfD? If you have some doubts, it is up to you to prove otherwise. So stop pushing YOUR problem onto me. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 1, 2024 22:01:56 GMT
"The Germans have made that decision"
What Germans? Ha ha, wake up before you post. I take that as an admission that you dont have the foggiest - you are just repeating shit you have read on the internet. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 1, 2024 22:43:56 GMT
Ha ha, wake up before you post. I take that as an admission that you dont have the foggiest - you are just repeating shit you have read on the internet. I take your post as admitting you turn off your brain when your Rightist nonsense takes control. |
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Post by Rebirth on Oct 2, 2024 5:12:18 GMT
I take that as an admission that you dont have the foggiest - you are just repeating shit you have read on the internet. I take your post as admitting you turn off your brain when your Rightist nonsense takes control. You posts lies all day every day. |
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 2, 2024 5:58:28 GMT
1) You said this, it certainly was your label at them time of posting: 2) Sorry, see no mention of you claiming this is the German definition, it reads like your own so no lies are made about you. 3) You say posters are ignoring movements of the far-right, yet many posters for the last 10 pages have been asking you what exactly is far right about the AfD. Perhaps if you weren't so intent on ducking and diving the question then such movement of the far-right could be addressed. But you prefer to muddle debate with vagueness because it seems you don't have the conviction and evidence to answer the questions asked of you. 4) Please don't project onto me, I am only asking YOU what makes the AfD far-right (like you claimed in the bolded quote above), when looking at their policy/manifesto. 5) Yes, your paranoia about 'fangs out' and the 'dark side' is evident throughout this exchange. You've seen one-too-many horror movies. 1. THE ONLY REASON I POSTED FAR-RIGHT was because that is the way it was described in Germany. That is what I read, how else would I have known?? 2. I have explained in numerous posts that AfD have been designated far-right in Germany. It has never been a definition made up by me. 3. Question is a contrived one used by some in order for them to make false insinuations / lies against myself. 4. I did not claim the AfD was Far-Right when looking at their policy/manifesto, so that is a lie made up by you. 5. My reference to Far-Right 'Fangs Out' comes from the actions used by the far-right governments of: Galtieri, Pinochet, Franco and Hitler. Do you deny their history of Murder, Torture and or Rape of their own innocent citizens?And you said that with re to the AfD, so tell us how you know their "fangs" will come out? And your response can't be simply because you believe Galtieri, Pinochet, Franco and Hitler are far right, you need to tell us why AfD's own fangs (like you claimed) will come out. What in their policy document, or your mind makes you believe that? After all this is what you said about the AfD: The simple question is, how do you know what they're going to do if they ever gain power. Help us "naive rightists" to spot these terrible parties! Otherwise, it'd is safe to conclude that this quote regarding you was spot on, as you've failed to "explain and unpack" how or why the AfD will get their fangs out when in control. Until then, all you have done is smear. |
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