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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 25, 2024 10:32:59 GMT
It's surprising what the will of the people can achieve, they almost watered the Tories down to nothing, the Tories realised the people had turned on them over Covid, from then on in it was all downhill, and look how they finished up, Labour only won the GE because the Tories no longer functioned.
I know Labour are going to have their Covid moment, and when they do they will suffer the same fate as the Tories at the hands of the people, and it probably started when they picked on the most vulnerable in society ... the pensioners, if he thinks they will go quietly he's in for a big shock.
The problem for any government targeting pensioners is that we have any ageing population and most people eventually get old. And that's potentially a lot of people to be pissing off. Yes as usual Labour haven't thought it through, the young people of today are the pensioners of tomorrow, and a lot of young people are starting to realise how important it is to pay in to a pension, if they think Labour are going to target them and their pensions Labour will be unelectable forever.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 25, 2024 10:37:56 GMT
The problem for any government targeting pensioners is that we have any ageing population and most people eventually get old. And that's potentially a lot of people to be pissing off. Indeed, Starmer seems to be unconcerned that there are currently just under 13 million old age pensioners, a demographic that increases by more than 100,000 a year. That's a lot of voters who feel increasingly alienated by this government.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 25, 2024 10:42:16 GMT
Its also a lot of money to give away when the country is in a financial shithole Instead of complaining about cutting universal benefits, why not suggest how you believe the gap in our finances can be fixed. ? Perhaps one of the reasons we're in a financial shithole is because the hotel bill for illegals who cross the channel from the EU is currently running at £15 million a day, that's £5.5 billion a year.
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Post by Vinny on Aug 25, 2024 10:44:14 GMT
It's very simple. In the short term, drill more oil and gas whilst building lots of new nuclear power stations. In the long term, when hopefully fusion is developed enough to industrially exploit, build fusion power stations. And also, electrolyse hydrogen add it to captured CO2 from the air plus water to synthesise petrol and diesel. Get existing cars running on renewable fuels instead, and net zero can be achieved.
Forget forcing everyone into electric cars. Forget ULEZ.
This is what needs doing.
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Post by witchfinder on Aug 25, 2024 10:52:43 GMT
Its also a lot of money to give away when the country is in a financial shithole Instead of complaining about cutting universal benefits, why not suggest how you believe the gap in our finances can be fixed. ? Perhaps one of the reasons we're in a financial shithole is because the hotel bill for illegals who cross the channel from the EU is currently running at £15 million a day, that's £5.5 billion a year. I keep seeing this same argument all over the place, on social media etc Its a different topic ( sort of ), but heres the problem as I see it, if those illegal immigrants were French nationals, or citizens of the EU, then it would be a simple case of returning them back. But they are citizens of Syria, Sudan, Iran and Afghanistan, and those countries wont take them back ( and if they did, they may well face death, torture or imprisonment ). So based on the fact that (1) we cannot send them back, and (2) we have to place them somewhere, where do you put them. ? It has to be a practical, legal and sensible solution, preferably cost effective
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Post by piglet on Aug 25, 2024 11:05:52 GMT
If you watch GB news and Talk tv its a never ending catalogue, not of avoidable problems experienced by every body, but of inherent incompetence on a vast scale. I dont know whats wrong, something is.
That common sense, practicality, simple thinking is absent. Shown in spades by politicians. David Lammy is a prime example, qualifications that would clog a furnace if you burnt them, but as dumb as it gets. To the point of needing a chaperone.
Its like goverment, local government as well, is ill, the illness thats experienced when you have rigid unwavering beliefs, that when they arte invalidated......
YOU CARRY ON ANYWAY. Starmer is a prime example, the Southport riots, trans etc, the list is endless.
The current system of government is not working, or is it that the wrong people are making it into government, that the university educated, monied, titled hoi polloi, are now a canker, and that the automatic assumption that some geezer educated at Cambridge is whats needed.
Whats needed right now is not the Starmer Sunak type, its the middle and working classes. The system is wrong in the sense that when we have a cancerous, deficient government, we cant change it over night. Indeed, we have had the wrong people in charge for a very long time.
And nothing will change. If i were King, he has real power, i would summon government to parliament then sack the lot.
And hold new elections with parameters that includes the poor, small business, the sick, unemployed, unpropertied, house wives, anyone that struggles as well as those that dont. If i were king....its amazing that change tomorrow could happen, but wont, Charles is of those that would get fired.
Christ, i sound like a socialist, i am not, but this is true socialism, not that stupidity of communism. We need a voice from those that have not, money protects itself.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 25, 2024 11:08:45 GMT
Perhaps one of the reasons we're in a financial shithole is because the hotel bill for illegals who cross the channel from the EU is currently running at £15 million a day, that's £5.5 billion a year. I keep seeing this same argument all over the place, on social media etc Its a different topic ( sort of ), but heres the problem as I see it, if those illegal immigrants were French nationals, or citizens of the EU, then it would be a simple case of returning them back. But they are citizens of Syria, Sudan, Iran and Afghanistan, and those countries wont take them back ( and if they did, they may well face death, torture or imprisonment ). So based on the fact that (1) we cannot send them back, and (2) we have to place them somewhere, where do you put them. ? It has to be a practical, legal and sensible solution, preferably cost effective They enter this country, illegally, from the safe EU state of France. It is utterly impossible to be an asylum seeker or refugee fleeing the horrors of war torn France. The only reason illegals are allowed to enter this country is because weak pro EU politicians are more concerned about the EU and the ECHR than they are about the UK, and as far as Starmer is concerned anyone who disagrees is a far right bigoted racist. But things will change, Farage will see to that. People are becoming increasingly pissed off with mass immigration. You cant pour a quart into a pint pot.
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Post by witchfinder on Aug 25, 2024 11:12:02 GMT
It's very simple. In the short term, drill more oil and gas whilst building lots of new nuclear power stations. In the long term, when hopefully fusion is developed enough to industrially exploit, build fusion power stations. And also, electrolyse hydrogen add it to captured CO2 from the air plus water to synthesise petrol and diesel. Get existing cars running on renewable fuels instead, and net zero can be achieved. Forget forcing everyone into electric cars. Forget ULEZ. This is what needs doing. This country is a world leader in wind power (renewable energy), and we have made really good progress in that direction, currently over 40% of our electricity is from renewable energy, and not only is that growing, but the growth of renewable energy is set to accelerate. All plans for extracting oil and gas should be thrown in the bin where they belong Energy will become cheaper because we will no longer at the mercy of world market prices for oil and gas Home grown energy from renewables means investment in this country, and jobs in this country Extracting fossil fuels from the seabed will result in international energy / petrochemical companies selling that gas and oil to wherever, and whoever they want, and at the price they can get. As energy from renewables grows, our reliance on dictators such as Putin disappears, we become energy self sufficient and our energy security is in a much stronger position. The energy source is clean and green, no polution, no adding to greenhouse gases, and as the renewable sector grows and develops, it comes cheaper.
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Post by sandypine on Aug 25, 2024 11:57:29 GMT
Perhaps one of the reasons we're in a financial shithole is because the hotel bill for illegals who cross the channel from the EU is currently running at £15 million a day, that's £5.5 billion a year. I keep seeing this same argument all over the place, on social media etc Its a different topic ( sort of ), but heres the problem as I see it, if those illegal immigrants were French nationals, or citizens of the EU, then it would be a simple case of returning them back. But they are citizens of Syria, Sudan, Iran and Afghanistan, and those countries wont take them back ( and if they did, they may well face death, torture or imprisonment ). So based on the fact that (1) we cannot send them back, and (2) we have to place them somewhere, where do you put them. ? It has to be a practical, legal and sensible solution, preferably cost effective You stop them arriving in such numbers by push back and blockade. It is perfectly legal. It is sensible as it will very soon deter which in the end is the humanitarian way forward. What we are currently doing is unsustainable and is detrimental to the well being of the British people both socially and financially, not to mention safety.
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Post by Vinny on Aug 25, 2024 12:31:04 GMT
It's very simple. In the short term, drill more oil and gas whilst building lots of new nuclear power stations. In the long term, when hopefully fusion is developed enough to industrially exploit, build fusion power stations. And also, electrolyse hydrogen add it to captured CO2 from the air plus water to synthesise petrol and diesel. Get existing cars running on renewable fuels instead, and net zero can be achieved. Forget forcing everyone into electric cars. Forget ULEZ. This is what needs doing. This country is a world leader in wind power (renewable energy), and we have made really good progress in that direction, currently over 40% of our electricity is from renewable energy, and not only is that growing, but the growth of renewable energy is set to accelerate. All plans for extracting oil and gas should be thrown in the bin where they belong Energy will become cheaper because we will no longer at the mercy of world market prices for oil and gas Home grown energy from renewables means investment in this country, and jobs in this country Extracting fossil fuels from the seabed will result in international energy / petrochemical companies selling that gas and oil to wherever, and whoever they want, and at the price they can get. As energy from renewables grows, our reliance on dictators such as Putin disappears, we become energy self sufficient and our energy security is in a much stronger position. The energy source is clean and green, no polution, no adding to greenhouse gases, and as the renewable sector grows and develops, it comes cheaper. Wind turbine blades wear out, they're about as recyclable as a Trabant, and the environmental impact of building a windfarm comes with a high CO2 cost, better solutions for the long term are needed, including fusion if it can be made economical. If not, Thorium molten salt nuclear reactors which can neither melt down, or produce fissile weapons grade material for thermonuclear bombs.
Australia has large quantities of Thorium, and Uranium.
Energy security is vital.
We need to work with our allies in the Commonwealth.
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 25, 2024 17:13:57 GMT
Renewables are more expensive than energy generated by fossil fuels - that is why we give subsidy to renewables and tax (heavily) fossil fuels..
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 25, 2024 17:21:19 GMT
This country is a world leader in wind power (renewable energy), and we have made really good progress in that direction, currently over 40% of our electricity is from renewable energy, and not only is that growing, but the growth of renewable energy is set to accelerate. All plans for extracting oil and gas should be thrown in the bin where they belong Energy will become cheaper because we will no longer at the mercy of world market prices for oil and gas Home grown energy from renewables means investment in this country, and jobs in this country Extracting fossil fuels from the seabed will result in international energy / petrochemical companies selling that gas and oil to wherever, and whoever they want, and at the price they can get. As energy from renewables grows, our reliance on dictators such as Putin disappears, we become energy self sufficient and our energy security is in a much stronger position. The energy source is clean and green, no polution, no adding to greenhouse gases, and as the renewable sector grows and develops, it comes cheaper. Wind turbine blades wear out, they're about as recyclable as a Trabant, and the environmental impact of building a windfarm comes with a high CO2 cost, better solutions for the long term are needed, including fusion if it can be made economical. If not, Thorium molten salt nuclear reactors which can neither melt down, or produce fissile weapons grade material for thermonuclear bombs.
Australia has large quantities of Thorium, and Uranium.
Energy security is vital.
We need to work with our allies in the Commonwealth.
This reminds me of a similar thread from a while back - which I suppose I could find if push came to shove. Anyhoo, I mentioned in that thread that I listened to a chap on... Talk TV or GB News who worked on an offshore wind turbine maintenance team in the North Sea. He said the blades cost in excess of £1 million each (x3 per turbine x 2,630 turbines) this eye watering figure does not include the cost of the turbines (Which contain hundreds of tonnes of concrete and rare earth metals) just the blades which are supposed to have a 25 year life span. But when used offshore the leading edge of the blade due to sand in the wind becomes pitted, the blades cant be repaired so they have to be replaced every five years and they cant be recycled so they go to landfill, and the undersea cables running from the turbines to land have to be replaced far more frequently than those on land, imagine how much that costs. He said building and erecting them in situ is very expensive, but maintenance costs are staggering and becoming more expensive all the time. Anyone who says wind energy is free doesn't know what they're talking about.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 25, 2024 18:01:22 GMT
Just for interest... Different types of offshore wind turbine.
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Post by Vinny on Aug 25, 2024 19:12:52 GMT
We're in the Commonwealth. Nuclear power is the best low carbon source going. Especially Thorium, because its waste cannot be used to make thermonuclear weapons afterwards.
Australia has the isotopes. We have an FTA with Australia.
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 25, 2024 19:13:14 GMT
Labour party for the poor ......... LOL Forgot your socks, Tony? Sharp-suited Blair takes his family on Italian yachting break with world's fifth richest man... but it looks as if he didn't have any change left from those £820 loafers!
Dont you think the wealthy can support the pooor
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