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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 22, 2024 13:43:31 GMT
Three officers have been hurt after being assaulted at Manchester Airport, Greater Manchester Police has said. They were attacked as they investigated an abandoned, uninsured car in an unauthorised space at Terminal Two on Wednesday morning. Police used a Taser on one person after they were 'confronted'. Three suspects - a man and two women - were arrested. The injured officers were a woman and two men. Three people - a man and two women - were taken to custody on suspicion of police assault. They have all been bailed pending further investigations. www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/three-police-officers-hurt-after-29790137Since the assailants who attacked these police officers were arrested then released on bail, I have to assume they're muslims. Somehow I cant imagine any white English (No doubt far right) hooligans who attacked the police being released on bail, can you?
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Post by Handyman on Aug 22, 2024 16:03:58 GMT
In most cases the Police can only hold a suspect or suspects for 24 hours, after that deadline they must either charge them or release them on Bail, unless it is a very serious Offence then they can hold them a little longer , or put them before a Magistrate and ask for more time to hold them
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 22, 2024 16:47:01 GMT
In most cases the Police can only hold a suspect or suspects for 24 hours, after that deadline they must either charge them or release them on Bail, unless it is a very serious Offence then they can hold them a little longer , or put them before a Magistrate and ask for more time to hold them H, if this report is correct and three police officers were indeed attacked and assaulted, why do you think the assailants were released on bail rather than being charged?
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 22, 2024 17:19:49 GMT
Because it's pretty much standard procedure. And it should not be.
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Post by Handyman on Aug 22, 2024 17:46:33 GMT
In most cases the Police can only hold a suspect or suspects for 24 hours, after that deadline they must either charge them or release them on Bail, unless it is a very serious Offence then they can hold them a little longer , or put them before a Magistrate and ask for more time to hold them H, if this report is correct and three police officers were indeed attacked and assaulted, why do you think the assailants were released on bail rather than being charged? They are still under investigation which means the Police will gather as much evidence as possible , CCTV, Police Body Cameras if worn, any witnesses, to make a strong a case as possible then when they are brought back for a second interview under caution then charge all being well
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Post by Handyman on Aug 22, 2024 18:08:28 GMT
The police can hold you for up to 24 hours before they have to charge you with a crime or release you.
They can apply to hold you for up to 36 or 96 hours if you’re suspected of a serious crime, such as murder.
You can be held without charge for up to 14 days If you’re arrested under the Terrorism Act.
When you can be released on bail
The police can release you on police bail if there’s not enough evidence to charge you. You do not have to pay to be released on police bail, but you’ll have to return to the station for further questioning when asked.
You can be released on conditional bail if the police charge you and think that you may:
commit another offence fail to turn up at court intimidate other witnesses obstruct the course of justice This means your freedom will be restricted in some way. For example, they can impose a curfew on you if your offence was committed at night.
It all comes under the PACE Act 1984
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 22, 2024 18:20:29 GMT
They are still under investigation which means the Police will gather as much evidence as possible , CCTV, Police Body Cameras if worn, any witnesses, to make a strong a case as possible then when they are brought back for a second interview under caution then charge all being well Yes they have indeed been released under investigation. The thing is we're not talking about someone who is accused of littering or petty theft, we're talking about three assailants who attacked and assaulted three police officers, yet for some reason they havent been charged. Why? Is it normal for people who assault police officers to be released, albeit on bail, without charge? I would suggest not.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 22, 2024 18:27:46 GMT
Because it's pretty much standard procedure. And it should not be. No, I disagree. In my opinion the way the police approach this sort of thing is first to look at the offenders, rather than the offence. If they're IC1 they'll get the book thrown at them, with Starmers blessing. If they're not, well that's a completely different ball game. That may not be reality, but it's certainly the perception.
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Post by Handyman on Aug 22, 2024 18:44:55 GMT
They are still under investigation which means the Police will gather as much evidence as possible , CCTV, Police Body Cameras if worn, any witnesses, to make a strong a case as possible then when they are brought back for a second interview under caution then charge all being well Yes they have indeed been released under investigation. The thing is we're not talking about someone who is accused of littering or petty theft, we're talking about three assailants who attacked and assaulted three police officers, yet for some reason they havent been charged. Why? Is it normal for people who assault police officers to be released, albeit on bail, without charge? I would suggest not. FFS Red they have to wait to be booked in, fingerprints, photo, DNA times three taken then wait for Solicitors to arrive for interviews if the suspects want a Brief, they will have to be seen by a Doctor if injured in the fight or have ill health mental issues, substance abuse, if fit enough the Officers have to type out their statements, then as I pointed out earlier gather all and any evidence together in under 24 hours. then get approval from the CPS to charge More often than not it will take much longer, they need to do a full belt and braces job to have a strong a case as possible to stand a chance of securing a conviction, if they rush it they may well loose the case at Court if they plead not guilty.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 22, 2024 18:55:17 GMT
...The police can release you on police bail if there’s not enough evidence to charge you... Indeed. Although these days people are more likely to be bailed pending a CPS decision - and that's where the delays come in. Of course, if the Home Office decree that the CPS will prioritise certain cases then it all happens much faster. Such is the reality of two-tier justice.
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Post by Handyman on Aug 22, 2024 19:02:02 GMT
...The police can release you on police bail if there’s not enough evidence to charge you... Indeed. Although these days people are more likely to be bailed pending a CPS decision - and that's where the delays come in. Of course, if the Home Office decree that the CPS will prioritise certain cases then it all happens much faster. Such is the reality of two-tier justice. Yes the CPS has to approve charges if the evidence is not good enough or strong enough they will not charge, another problem is the huge back log of cases the Courts have to deal with at the Crown Courts or Central Criminal Courts people on Bail or in Custody for trial
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 22, 2024 19:31:07 GMT
Yes they have indeed been released under investigation. The thing is we're not talking about someone who is accused of littering or petty theft, we're talking about three assailants who attacked and assaulted three police officers, yet for some reason they havent been charged. Why? Is it normal for people who assault police officers to be released, albeit on bail, without charge? I would suggest not. FFS Red they have to wait to be booked in, fingerprints, photo, DNA times three taken then wait for Solicitors to arrive for interviews if the suspects want a Brief, they will have to be seen by a Doctor if injured in the fight or have ill health mental issues, substance abuse, if fit enough the Officers have to type out their statements, then as I pointed out earlier gather all and any evidence together in under 24 hours. then get approval from the CPS to charge More often than not it will take much longer, they need to do a full belt and braces job to have a strong a case as possible to stand a chance of securing a conviction, if they rush it they may well loose the case at Court if they plead not guilty. H, recent history strongly suggests that the penalties for assaulting police officers depend very much on the ethnicity of the assailant/s. For example a) A white Englishman was sentenced to three years in prison for punching a riot police officers shield. He was charged with assault for punching a shield. From offence to prison took four days. b) Two aggressive Pakistanis in a sustained attack violently attacked two police officers one of whom was punched no fewar than 15 times, the other was punched unconscious and suffered a broken nose. That was weeks ago and everything was filmed on CCTV, yet the offenders have not been charged with anything. As I said, if you're IC1 you're stuffed.
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Post by patman post on Aug 22, 2024 21:32:13 GMT
FFS Red they have to wait to be booked in, fingerprints, photo, DNA times three taken then wait for Solicitors to arrive for interviews if the suspects want a Brief, they will have to be seen by a Doctor if injured in the fight or have ill health mental issues, substance abuse, if fit enough the Officers have to type out their statements, then as I pointed out earlier gather all and any evidence together in under 24 hours. then get approval from the CPS to charge More often than not it will take much longer, they need to do a full belt and braces job to have a strong a case as possible to stand a chance of securing a conviction, if they rush it they may well loose the case at Court if they plead not guilty. As I said, if you're IC1 you're stuffed. Probably the result of sucking on the teats of While Privilege for so long…
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Post by Bentley on Aug 22, 2024 21:47:28 GMT
As I said, if you're IC1 you're stuffed. Probably the result of sucking on the teats of While Privilege for so long… A figment of self hating white lefties imagination and a tool for ethnic minority grifters ^
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Post by patman post on Aug 22, 2024 21:57:22 GMT
Probably the result of sucking on the teats of While Privilege for so long… A figment of self hating white lefties imagination and a tool for ethnic minority grifters ^ That might be so — but in my case I’m neither White nor a Leftie. My political leanings since 2016 have been formed by the wish to nudge the Tories to return to updated common sense practicalities that guided Thatcher’s administrations…
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