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Post by Bentley on Aug 22, 2024 22:05:07 GMT
A figment of self hating white lefties imagination and a tool for ethnic minority grifters ^ That might be so — but in my case I’m neither White nor a Leftie. My political leanings since 2016 have been formed by the wish to nudge the Tories to return to updated common sense practicalities that guided Thatcher’s administrations… Well I did add ethnic minority grifters but I’m sure you’re not one of them . |
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Post by patman post on Aug 22, 2024 22:15:56 GMT
That might be so — but in my case I’m neither White nor a Leftie. My political leanings since 2016 have been formed by the wish to nudge the Tories to return to updated common sense practicalities that guided Thatcher’s administrations… Well I did add ethnic minority grifters but I’m sure you’re not one of them . That’s for you to imply in true Faragian-Trumpian style… |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 22, 2024 22:27:32 GMT
Well I did add ethnic minority grifters but I’m sure you’re not one of them . That’s for you to imply in true Faragian-Trumpian style… Well I did say that I’m sure you are NOT but you implied I did in an Abbotonian_Lammian style |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 22, 2024 23:20:23 GMT
As I said, if you're IC1 you're stuffed. Probably the result of sucking on the teats of While Privilege for so long… LOL, yes indeed. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 22, 2024 23:24:34 GMT
That might be so — but in my case I’m neither White nor a Leftie. My political leanings since 2016 have been formed by the wish to nudge the Tories to return to updated common sense practicalities that guided Thatcher’s administrations… Well said, so you're a Tory, and tbh I had my suspicions. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 23, 2024 6:05:43 GMT
FFS Red they have to wait to be booked in, fingerprints, photo, DNA times three taken then wait for Solicitors to arrive for interviews if the suspects want a Brief, they will have to be seen by a Doctor if injured in the fight or have ill health mental issues, substance abuse, if fit enough the Officers have to type out their statements, then as I pointed out earlier gather all and any evidence together in under 24 hours. then get approval from the CPS to charge More often than not it will take much longer, they need to do a full belt and braces job to have a strong a case as possible to stand a chance of securing a conviction, if they rush it they may well loose the case at Court if they plead not guilty. H, recent history strongly suggests that the penalties for assaulting police officers depend very much on the ethnicity of the assailant/s. For example a) A white Englishman was sentenced to three years in prison for punching a riot police officers shield. He was charged with assault for punching a shield. From offence to prison took four days. b) Two aggressive Pakistanis in a sustained attack violently attacked two police officers one of whom was punched no fewar than 15 times, the other was punched unconscious and suffered a broken nose. That was weeks ago and everything was filmed on CCTV, yet the offenders have not been charged with anything. As I said, if you're IC1 you're stuffed. "Black and minority ethnic defendants are significantly more likely to be charged for a comparable offence than white British defendants in England and Wales, a study commissioned by the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) has found. The findings, described as “troubling” by the CPS and experts, show that defendants from mixed ethnic backgrounds are most likely to be charged, with 79.1% of the suspects charged, almost 10 percentage points higher than the rate of white British defendants charged." www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/07/defendants-of-colour-more-likely-to-be-charged-than-white-people-finds-cps-study |
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Post by Rebirth on Aug 23, 2024 6:19:57 GMT
Blacks are charged more than Asians. Maybe there are too many Asians working in the legal system.
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Post by Rebirth on Aug 23, 2024 6:35:08 GMT
FFS Red they have to wait to be booked in, fingerprints, photo, DNA times three taken then wait for Solicitors to arrive for interviews if the suspects want a Brief, they will have to be seen by a Doctor if injured in the fight or have ill health mental issues, substance abuse, if fit enough the Officers have to type out their statements, then as I pointed out earlier gather all and any evidence together in under 24 hours. then get approval from the CPS to charge More often than not it will take much longer, they need to do a full belt and braces job to have a strong a case as possible to stand a chance of securing a conviction, if they rush it they may well loose the case at Court if they plead not guilty. H, recent history strongly suggests that the penalties for assaulting police officers depend very much on the ethnicity of the assailant/s. For example a) A white Englishman was sentenced to three years in prison for punching a riot police officers shield. He was charged with assault for punching a shield. From offence to prison took four days. b) Two aggressive Pakistanis in a sustained attack violently attacked two police officers one of whom was punched no fewar than 15 times, the other was punched unconscious and suffered a broken nose. That was weeks ago and everything was filmed on CCTV, yet the offenders have not been charged with anything. As I said, if you're IC1 you're stuffed. The police and justice system answers to Labour. |
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Post by Handyman on Aug 23, 2024 8:16:50 GMT
FFS Red they have to wait to be booked in, fingerprints, photo, DNA times three taken then wait for Solicitors to arrive for interviews if the suspects want a Brief, they will have to be seen by a Doctor if injured in the fight or have ill health mental issues, substance abuse, if fit enough the Officers have to type out their statements, then as I pointed out earlier gather all and any evidence together in under 24 hours. then get approval from the CPS to charge More often than not it will take much longer, they need to do a full belt and braces job to have a strong a case as possible to stand a chance of securing a conviction, if they rush it they may well loose the case at Court if they plead not guilty. H, recent history strongly suggests that the penalties for assaulting police officers depend very much on the ethnicity of the assailant/s. For example a) A white Englishman was sentenced to three years in prison for punching a riot police officers shield. He was charged with assault for punching a shield. From offence to prison took four days. b) Two aggressive Pakistanis in a sustained attack violently attacked two police officers one of whom was punched no fewar than 15 times, the other was punched unconscious and suffered a broken nose. That was weeks ago and everything was filmed on CCTV, yet the offenders have not been charged with anything. As I said, if you're IC1 you're stuffed. I know how you feel from personal experience , and yes the race card is played all the time and not just by those who are arrested and don't have the balls to admit what they did and come out with all sorts of sob stories , but sentencing is done by the Courts some Judges are harder than others will it ever change ? I don't think so. Officers are racially abused threatened or assaulted 24/7 the non white Officers even more so are by people of their own ethnicity |
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Post by Handyman on Aug 23, 2024 8:20:00 GMT
As I said, if you're IC1 you're stuffed. Probably the result of sucking on the teats of While Privilege for so long… Perhaps you would like to explain to me what " White Privilege is " because I have no idea what it is |
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 23, 2024 8:42:55 GMT
Probably the result of sucking on the teats of While Privilege for so long… Perhaps you would like to explain to me what " White Privilege is " because I have no idea what it is Like most people who bandy the term about more or less willy-nilly, PP may not have his finger on the answer to your question. However I can help.
The term 'white privilege' was defined by Peggy Mcintosh, a white American academic specialising in Gender Studies who had been researching into 'male privilege and had come to realise how she, as a white person, held similar privileges compared to persons of colo(u)r. In the late eighties she published a short pamphlet 'Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack' which lists the twenty-odd characteristics of WP, beginning:
"1. I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.
2. If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I want to live.
3. I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.
4. I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed
..."
And so on in similar vein for another 22 paragraphs.
The pamphlet, which was first published in the late 80s, has since become a part of the standard curriculum at every US university and has given rise to a completely academic discipline providing employment to hundreds of specialist in the field of WP worldwide, at least in every Anglophone country.
PS I understand that subsequent research has been able to expand McIntosh's original 26 Aspects of White Privilege to over fifty today. It's a never-ending quest for scientific knowledge.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 23, 2024 8:49:33 GMT
H, recent history strongly suggests that the penalties for assaulting police officers depend very much on the ethnicity of the assailant/s. For example a) A white Englishman was sentenced to three years in prison for punching a riot police officers shield. He was charged with assault for punching a shield. From offence to prison took four days. b) Two aggressive Pakistanis in a sustained attack violently attacked two police officers one of whom was punched no fewar than 15 times, the other was punched unconscious and suffered a broken nose. That was weeks ago and everything was filmed on CCTV, yet the offenders have not been charged with anything. As I said, if you're IC1 you're stuffed. "Black and minority ethnic defendants are significantly more likely to be charged for a comparable offence than white British defendants in England and Wales, a study commissioned by the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) has found. The findings, described as “troubling” by the CPS and experts, show that defendants from mixed ethnic backgrounds are most likely to be charged, with 79.1% of the suspects charged, almost 10 percentage points higher than the rate of white British defendants charged." www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/07/defendants-of-colour-more-likely-to-be-charged-than-white-people-finds-cps-studyWell if that’s true the sentencing isn’t reflected in those numbers,there was the Kurd awaiting deportation for several sex offence convictions left free who pushed a postie off the platform in front of a train on the underground then the illegal afghan with a sex offence conviction who threw acid over a woman and child ,he’d avoided deportation by converting to Christianity. Anyway justice should be blind and effective and it’s the effective bit that’s missing and I think the racism card is pulled too often especially on the police who are afraid to do their jobs and in any event they have no control of who eventually goes to court. |
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Post by wapentake on Aug 23, 2024 9:04:30 GMT
As I said, if you're IC1 you're stuffed. Probably the result of sucking on the teats of While Privilege for so long… Oh take that bag of spuds off your shoulder Pat it was your mother who did the hard bit,you’ve got a decent life as you’ve admitted,I’ve seen racism and don’t defend it but the tide has turned and it should be noted that racism is not the privilege of the white people alone is it? |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 23, 2024 9:09:55 GMT
Perhaps you would like to explain to me what " White Privilege is " because I have no idea what it is Like most people who bandy the term about more or less willy-nilly, PP may not have his finger on the answer to your question. However I can help.
The term 'white privilege' was defined by Peggy Mcintosh, a white American academic specialising in Gender Studies who had been researching into 'male privilege and had come to realise how she, as a white person, held similar privileges compared to persons of colo(u)r. In the late eighties she published a short pamphlet 'Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack' which lists the twenty-odd characteristics of WP, beginning:
"1. I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.
2. If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I want to live.
3. I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.
4. I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed
..."
And so on in similar vein for another 22 paragraphs.
The pamphlet, which was first published in the late 80s, has since become a part of the standard curriculum at every US university and has given rise to a completely academic discipline providing employment to hundreds of specialist in the field of WP worldwide, at least in every Anglophone country.
PS I understand that subsequent research has been able to expand McIntosh's original 26 Aspects of White Privilege to over fifty today. It's a never-ending quest for scientific knowledge.
It is strange but many aspects of what is termed WP are now curiously unavailable to a goodly proportion of 'White privileged' people. Just on the four points you highlight above then it is in many instances illegal to arrange to be in the company of white people most of the time but it is not for other races; most white people who have to move find it difficult to afford anything and find social housing and subsidised housing occupied by BAME people and have little or no choice; even Powell, all those years ago, highlighted where neighbours were particularly unpleasant to white people and with the increase of BAME in all areas that has increased; going shopping for many lone white women is a potential journey into hell, or worse. Realistically it is a disgrace and places white people in the same academic vein as Jews in 30s Germany, and we know that did not end well. Never again was the cry and here we have again being stacked up and supported before our very eyes. |
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Post by Handyman on Aug 23, 2024 9:33:41 GMT
Perhaps you would like to explain to me what " White Privilege is " because I have no idea what it is Like most people who bandy the term about more or less willy-nilly, PP may not have his finger on the answer to your question. However I can help.
The term 'white privilege' was defined by Peggy Mcintosh, a white American academic specialising in Gender Studies who had been researching into 'male privilege and had come to realise how she, as a white person, held similar privileges compared to persons of colo(u)r. In the late eighties she published a short pamphlet 'Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack' which lists the twenty-odd characteristics of WP, beginning:
"1. I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.
2. If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I want to live.
3. I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.
4. I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed
..."
And so on in similar vein for another 22 paragraphs.
The pamphlet, which was first published in the late 80s, has since become a part of the standard curriculum at every US university and has given rise to a completely academic discipline providing employment to hundreds of specialist in the field of WP worldwide, at least in every Anglophone country.
PS I understand that subsequent research has been able to expand McIntosh's original 26 Aspects of White Privilege to over fifty today. It's a never-ending quest for scientific knowledge.
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