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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 19, 2024 15:55:13 GMT
How can I provide a definition for something that doesn't exist? I have no issue whatsoever with you being whomever or whatever you wish since it's all in the mind anyway, right? Right, I can describe myself as English with no dispute from yourself then? Glad we straightened that out.
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Post by sandypine on Aug 19, 2024 15:59:37 GMT
I did not say you did, but I was called it. Once again why are you getting hung up on what I have not said. I only questioned how the ethnic English with English heritage would view any claim on your part to have complete and unequivocal English ethnicity when you also claim Irish heritage. If you had not claimed Irish heritage unbidden then I would not have asked that question but you did, so I asked. Well sorry to hear that but I'm not sure what somebody else calling you racist has to do with me, why not take up with the accuser? I've been almost universally accepted as English, you wouldn't be able to pick me out among a group of 100% ethnic English people, I'd bet my house on it. Well done but it is what you volunteered that I was questioning in context and that was your claim to have Irish heritage. That is over and above your claim that you are 100% ethnic English but claim an addition to that which makes more than 100% and not really possible so we have to assume that the 100% ethnic English is not actually what you mean.
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Post by Vinny on Aug 19, 2024 16:03:00 GMT
Good for you. You must be very popular with the Antifa Brigade. They're very hot on the idea that Britain and England are mongrel nations, because that provides carte blanche for Immigration Enthusiasts to call for unrestricted further mongelisation. But I'll let you into a little secret. The British Isles are remarkably homogeneous genetically, much more so than any other countries in Western Europe. Anyone who knows anything about population genetics understands this simple truth. My ancestry is mixed Anglo Scot. I am a Brit.
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 19, 2024 16:22:14 GMT
Well sorry to hear that but I'm not sure what somebody else calling you racist has to do with me, why not take up with the accuser? I've been almost universally accepted as English, you wouldn't be able to pick me out among a group of 100% ethnic English people, I'd bet my house on it. Well done but it is what you volunteered that I was questioning in context and that was your claim to have Irish heritage. That is over and above your claim that you are 100% ethnic English but claim an addition to that which makes more than 100% and not really possible so we have to assume that the 100% ethnic English is not actually what you mean. I have never claimed that I am 100% ethnic English, you are shadow boxing.
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Post by sandypine on Aug 19, 2024 16:27:45 GMT
Well done but it is what you volunteered that I was questioning in context and that was your claim to have Irish heritage. That is over and above your claim that you are 100% ethnic English but claim an addition to that which makes more than 100% and not really possible so we have to assume that the 100% ethnic English is not actually what you mean. I have never claimed that I am 100% ethnic English, you are shadow boxing. Apologies misread your post, I take it back.
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 19, 2024 17:40:52 GMT
Good for you. You must be very popular with the Antifa Brigade. They're very hot on the idea that Britain and England are mongrel nations, because that provides carte blanche for Immigration Enthusiasts to call for unrestricted further mongelisation. But I'll let you into a little secret. The British Isles are remarkably homogeneous genetically, much more so than any other countries in Western Europe. Anyone who knows anything about population genetics understands this simple truth. My ancestry is mixed Anglo Scot. I am a Brit. So you're not a mongrel after all. Most anglos and most Scots share the same haplotype and you've been worrying about nothing.
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Post by Vinny on Aug 19, 2024 18:19:07 GMT
Worrying? I'm not worried.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 19, 2024 21:47:55 GMT
The OP claims British identity is on the wane in England, and tbh that doesn't make a lot of sense. Great Briton comprises England Scotland and Wales, all three make up Great Briton and in spite of nationalist political parties (Which are allowed in Wales and Scotland, but not in England) there are plenty of union jacks flown in Wales and Scotland. I'm English and since 2016 have proudly flown the union jack from a 6m flagpole in my garden, and will continue to do so. Whether nationalist minorities like it or not England like Wales and Scotland is a part of Great Briton, indeed someone who is more religious than me might say I'm British by birth, but English by the grace of god.
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Post by aristaeus on Aug 21, 2024 12:54:43 GMT
The OP claims British identity is on the wane in England, and tbh that doesn't make a lot of sense. Great Briton comprises England Scotland and Wales, all three make up Great Briton and in spite of nationalist political parties (Which are allowed in Wales and Scotland, but not in England) there are plenty of union jacks flown in Wales and Scotland. I'm English and since 2016 have proudly flown the union jack from a 6m flagpole in my garden, and will continue to do so. Whether nationalist minorities like it or not England like Wales and Scotland is a part of Great Briton, indeed someone who is more religious than me might say I'm British by birth, but English by the grace of god. Can't be that proud of flying the flag if you don't even know its correct name. Union flag, not union jack
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Post by sandypine on Aug 21, 2024 13:45:58 GMT
The OP claims British identity is on the wane in England, and tbh that doesn't make a lot of sense. Great Briton comprises England Scotland and Wales, all three make up Great Briton and in spite of nationalist political parties (Which are allowed in Wales and Scotland, but not in England) there are plenty of union jacks flown in Wales and Scotland. I'm English and since 2016 have proudly flown the union jack from a 6m flagpole in my garden, and will continue to do so. Whether nationalist minorities like it or not England like Wales and Scotland is a part of Great Briton, indeed someone who is more religious than me might say I'm British by birth, but English by the grace of god. Can't be that proud of flying the flag if you don't even know its correct name. Union flag, not union jack Both names are acceptable according to the Flag Institute. One problem being that if one takes the jack from a ship and fly it on land is it still the jack did Shackleton carry the Union Jack, or flag, close to the pole. The Union Jack has a much crisper appeal and I have always preferred it and from Scouts onwards that was how it was always referred as.
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 21, 2024 14:59:06 GMT
The OP claims British identity is on the wane in England, and tbh that doesn't make a lot of sense. Great Briton comprises England Scotland and Wales, all three make up Great Briton and in spite of nationalist political parties (Which are allowed in Wales and Scotland, but not in England) there are plenty of union jacks flown in Wales and Scotland. I'm English and since 2016 have proudly flown the union jack from a 6m flagpole in my garden, and will continue to do so. Whether nationalist minorities like it or not England like Wales and Scotland is a part of Great Briton, indeed someone who is more religious than me might say I'm British by birth, but English by the grace of god. Can't be that proud of flying the flag if you don't even know its correct name. Union flag, not union jack In over 6 decades I've never know it as the 'Union Flag'
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Post by Orac on Aug 21, 2024 15:14:56 GMT
I believe, technically, Jack is a Naval term As in Captain Jack Sparrow Only pedants bother
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 22, 2024 12:41:58 GMT
Can't be that proud of flying the flag if you don't even know its correct name. Union flag, not union jack Pillock. In 1902 the Admiralty pronounced either name, Union Jack or Union Flag was officially valid. This unsurprisingly caused some confusion, so in 1908 the Asquith government announced that the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag. Do your homework.
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Post by piglet on Aug 23, 2024 10:05:29 GMT
My father was Belorussian, my mother Italian, having said that she came from a part of Italy that used to be Yugoslavia, and had 2 per cent Italian in her. Both of my parents combined, me, my genome stretches from Iceland to the holy land and all in between...except the anglosaxons, celts and the french. Both my parents individually were dna diverse.
I grew up in an atmosphere of eastern european violence, that was the first port of call for problem solving, and the expressed emotions of southern europe, talking that sounds like rage, extreme emotions, tantrums, shouting, extreme behaviour, cup throwing, screaming etc.
Whats english about that.? When i went to school i was in another world another culture, an english one.
Whats that? Cooperation, kindness, understanding, help, calmness, rationality, organisation, and most importantly, especially today, to much so, charity. The genorosity of the english is amazing.
Be proud to be english. I am proud to be english.
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