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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 14, 2024 23:46:15 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0qe1g4g751oThe Met is failing in almost all areas. It is Adequate in just one area, it is Good or Outstanding in none. 14 Years of Ideological cuts gets you a completely failing Police Service. And that fucking loon Truss, and her right-wing ilk, want to cut Public Spending even further. The Tories wanted to cut Public Spending to make Public Services bad enough that enough people would be fooled into wanting them all privatised. All The Best
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 14, 2024 23:58:44 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0qe1g4g751oThe Met is failing in almost all areas. It is Adequate in just one area, it is Good or Outstanding in none. 14 Years of Ideological cuts gets you a completely failing Police Service. And that fucking loon Truss, and her right-wing ilk, want to cut Public Spending even further. The Tories wanted to cut Public Spending to make Public Services bad enough that enough people would be fooled into wanting them all privatised. All The Best Whoa there, you claim the Tories wanted to cut public spending! This may come as a shock, but the Tories aint in government. It's Starmers Stasi who are in charge now, and boy are Labour voters going to regret that lol.
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 15, 2024 0:19:00 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0qe1g4g751oThe Met is failing in almost all areas. It is Adequate in just one area, it is Good or Outstanding in none. 14 Years of Ideological cuts gets you a completely failing Police Service. And that fucking loon Truss, and her right-wing ilk, want to cut Public Spending even further. The Tories wanted to cut Public Spending to make Public Services bad enough that enough people would be fooled into wanting them all privatised. All The Best Whoa there, you claim the Tories wanted to cut public spending! This may come as a shock, but the Tories aint in government. It's Starmers Stasi who are in charge now, and boy are Labour voters going to regret that lol. Well Starmer's spending plans can't possibly have caused the events that led up to the report that I linked above, can it? I mean I know Tory hacks are desperate to try and ensure endemic Tory incompetence isn't highlighted; but suggesting Starmer is to blame for a report that happened before he came into power is utterly ludicrous - even by Tory hack standards. I think, so far, the only thing Labour voters regret is that Labour coming to power didn't happen sooner, they could have avoided the last 4 years of Tory incompetence. All The Best
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 15, 2024 0:49:21 GMT
Well Starmer's spending plans can't possibly have caused the events that led up to the report that I linked above, can it? I mean I know Tory hacks are desperate to try and ensure endemic Tory incompetence isn't highlighted; but suggesting Starmer is to blame for a report that happened before he came into power is utterly ludicrous - even by Tory hack standards. I think, so far, the only thing Labour voters regret is that Labour coming to power didn't happen sooner, they could have avoided the last 4 years of Tory incompetence. All The Best I wonder, how long are you going to say 'it's because of the previous government'? Let me tell you something, this government have already pissed off most of the people who voted for them, but that's nothing. Just wait until it gets cold, wait until the autumn when people realise they cant afford to heat their homes and Milliband is telling them that being cold is saving the planet. LOL, I cant wait.
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 15, 2024 0:52:46 GMT
Well Starmer's spending plans can't possibly have caused the events that led up to the report that I linked above, can it? I mean I know Tory hacks are desperate to try and ensure endemic Tory incompetence isn't highlighted; but suggesting Starmer is to blame for a report that happened before he came into power is utterly ludicrous - even by Tory hack standards. I think, so far, the only thing Labour voters regret is that Labour coming to power didn't happen sooner, they could have avoided the last 4 years of Tory incompetence. All The Best I wonder, how long are you going to say 'it's because of the previous government'? Well the Tories did it for about 14 years. So I think, at only just 6 weeks in, Labour and their supporters have time yet; don't you? All The Best
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 15, 2024 0:56:09 GMT
Whoa there, you claim the Tories wanted to cut public spending! This may come as a shock, but the Tories aint in government. It's Starmers Stasi who are in charge now, and boy are Labour voters going to regret that lol. Well Starmer's spending plans can't possibly have caused the events that led up to the report that I linked above, can it? I mean I know Tory hacks are desperate to try and ensure endemic Tory incompetence isn't highlighted; but suggesting Starmer is to blame for a report that happened before he came into power is utterly ludicrous - even by Tory hack standards. I think, so far, the only thing Labour voters regret is that Labour coming to power didn't happen sooner, they could have avoided the last 4 years of Tory incompetence. All The Best we could of got in 4 yrs ago but we had barmy corbyn has labour leader
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 15, 2024 1:15:15 GMT
I wonder, how long are you going to say 'it's because of the previous government'? Well the Tories did it for about 14 years. So I think, at only just 6 weeks in, Labour and their supporters have time yet; don't you? All The Best Anyone who says the Tories were in power for 14 years doesn't understand what coalition means. As for this Labour government, yes indeed it's just 6 weeks old, and my god look at what Starmer has achieved in just six weeks: a) Mass social disorder b) Scrapping pensioners cold weather payments c) Scrapping the anti strike 'Act' d) Caving in to junior doctors 22% pay demand e) Caving in to train drivers 15% pay demand And this is, as you rightly say after just six weeks of a Labour administration. I'm sure teachers and other public employees are licking their lips in anticipation.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 15, 2024 1:21:14 GMT
Well Starmer's spending plans can't possibly have caused the events that led up to the report that I linked above, can it? I mean I know Tory hacks are desperate to try and ensure endemic Tory incompetence isn't highlighted; but suggesting Starmer is to blame for a report that happened before he came into power is utterly ludicrous - even by Tory hack standards. I think, so far, the only thing Labour voters regret is that Labour coming to power didn't happen sooner, they could have avoided the last 4 years of Tory incompetence. All The Best we could of got in 4 yrs ago but we had barmy corbyn has labour leader Indeed, but the thing is TTL, Corbyn was more popular than Starmer. Yes it's the truth, Corbyn lost the 2019 election with 40% of the vote, Starmer won with 34%. Hardly an endorsment of Labour popularity.
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 15, 2024 1:24:30 GMT
Well the Tories did it for about 14 years. So I think, at only just 6 weeks in, Labour and their supporters have time yet; don't you? All The Best Anyone who says the Tories were in power for 14 years doesn't understand what coalition means. As for this Labour government, yes indeed it's just 6 weeks old, and my god look at what Starmer has achieved in just six weeks: a) Mass social disorder b) Scrapping pensioners cold weather payments c) Scrapping the anti strike 'Act' d) Caving in to junior doctors 22% pay demand e) Caving in to train drivers 15% pay demand And this is, as you rightly say after just six weeks of a Labour administration. I'm sure teachers and other public employees are licking their lips in anticipation. The Tories were in power for 14 years, some of that as SENIOR partner in a coalition - this is indisputable. a) That was Farage not Starmer, and Farage is likely to end up being investigated by Counter-Terrorism. b) Yeah, bad move; but then Starmer's Labour is almost as Tory-Lite as Blair was. c) Great, the right to withdraw labour needs to be protected. d) Excellent, they are way underpaid, and it makes up for decades of below inflation rises. e) Again, they had been under-paid for decades. All this increase is doing is redressing the balance. So, in just under 6 weeks Labour has ended two sets of strikes that Tory Incompetence had allowed to rumble on for months, thus restoring essential public services to the nation - and you think this is a bad thing? All The Best
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 15, 2024 1:37:56 GMT
The Tories were in power for 14 years, some of that as SENIOR partner in a coalition - this is indisputable. a) That was Farage not Starmer, and Farage is likely to end up being investigated by Counter-Terrorism. b) Yeah, bad move; but then Starmer's Labour is almost as Tory-Lite as Blair was. c) Great, the right to withdraw labour needs to be protected. d) Excellent, they are way underpaid, and it makes up for decades of below inflation rises. e) Again, they had been under-paid for decades. All this increase is doing is redressing the balance. So, in just under 6 weeks Labour has ended two sets of strikes that Tory Incompetence had allowed to rumble on for months, thus restoring essential public services to the nation - and you think this is a bad thing? All The Best Clearly you don't understand what a hung parliament is, not to worry. Yes indeed Labour have caved in to their union paymasters and lets face it, who didn't see that comming. The thing is who's going to pay for it? I guess we'll find out in October when this anti English minority appeasing government become even less popular, if that's possible.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 15, 2024 5:25:56 GMT
The Met is not failing through lack of funding. Khan's political interference and wokery has killed the Met.
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 15, 2024 6:42:55 GMT
Í think the last few weeks/months have shown that it's not lack of funding that has caused the police to be completely ineffectual. The Met (and many other police forces) seem to have loads of police if it wants. When they want to shut down the "far Right" or Tommy Robinson and friends they come out in force. It's just when they have to do some "real" policing, like clamping down on shoplifting or protecting the public, that there's no one available. And this is because the people who are running the police are liberal lefty idealogues who are better suited to a job in left wing politics. THey know little about policing because they were fast tracked from Oxbridge.
And this problem is further exacerbated by the fact that if the police ever do try to clamp down on law breakers they had better be bloody careful they don't use "excessive force" or they'll be sacked. The Chief Constables will never support them.
I could also add that the reason that the police had their budget cut (by the useless Mrs May) was because they claimed that crime had gone down. It's almost funny in a way. The police fiddled the figures so much (to meet govt targets) that it looked like crime had gone down. It was a lie of course but you can hardly blame an idiot like May for cutting their budget.
Also, of course, Sadiq Khan has to take a lot of the blame for the performance of the Met. He's their Commissioner and he's done a bloody awful job.
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 15, 2024 6:49:18 GMT
The Tories wanted to cut Public Spending to make Public Services bad enough that enough people would be fooled into wanting them all privatised. They did? - so why did they raise public spending to record levels? Seems an odd way to go about it...
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Post by Dogburger on Aug 15, 2024 7:54:18 GMT
The Met is not failing through lack of funding. Khan's political interference and wokery has killed the Met. Indeed , one of the Mayor of London's key responsibilities is setting the priorities of policing and agreeing with the policing budget . Though government funding has fallen under the Tories the shortfall is always and has always been made up by London ratepayers . So though government funding has fallen by something like 30% Londoners are paying double what they were when Khan took office in 2016 . Next years council taxpayers and business rate payers will be paying a record £1.148 billion for policing so though where the money is coming from has changed the Mets incompetence has nothing to do with funding but with its leadership And the buck stops with Khan
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 15, 2024 7:59:00 GMT
The Met is not failing through lack of funding. Khan's political interference and wokery has killed the Met. Oh, there is certainly too much of that. But it would be moronic in the extreme to think that funding cuts and reduced front-line staffing (a result of funding cuts) play no part in this. All The Best
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