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Post by Vinny on Aug 24, 2024 18:47:08 GMT
Meanwhile, Xi Jinping is a dictator.
Down with dictatorships.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 24, 2024 18:50:28 GMT
A mere hint of it being an autocracy?( in bold) Also Face not honour . You should know this if you knew anything about Chinese culture . Let me help you Face Face cultures value harmony, humility, and hierarchy, and individuals are expected to contribute to these values within their group. This can include self-restraint, conformity to tradition, and cooperating with others to protect their group's reputation. Face cultures also tend to have stable hierarchies, and individuals may rely on superiors to punish those who violate norms. Some say that face cultures are more external in their analysis of self-worth, and that East Asian cultures are an example of a face culture. Honor Honor cultures value personal reputation and the importance of protecting and defending it. They also emphasize self-awareness and external evaluations of self-worth. In honor cultures, individuals are expected to be responsible for developing and protecting their group's reputation, and to uphold its honor. Some say that honor cultures are more internal and external in their analysis of self-worth, and that Middle Eastern, North African, South Asian, Latin American, and Russian cultures are examples of honor cultures Did you copy and paste that Face bit? It looks like it. You have said the same to me before so there is no point in repeating it as I heard you the first time. I'm not arguing with it. I'm just saying how it works in business.
I knew China was going to go full out on cars when I noticed a Chinese firm who I use their computers decided to make it work on the CAN protocol. I thought hmm, that's for cars, then I thought I wonder what is going on here then and sure enough there was a government industrial plan all along. I have since learnt a fair bit more about their governmental system since I have these very informative China videos that explains policy in detail. I mean one simple reason why they might like to follow the government's plan is there are often industrial grants available (yes the dreaded subsidies the US goes on about, except of course all industrial countries do the same). You are too quick to jump to the position your prejudices prefer when often the reasons are quite pedestrian.
Anyway, what you copy and pasted there had something to do with it as well. If we apply the Jordan Peterson view of cultures and governments then of course the same thing is going on in China. The government adapts to the culture it governs. In fact is is a very strong reason why the Chinese government are pretty soft, not the fascists the West pretend they are. You see because they value the group, they naturally work together and need little supervision. It's personal responsibility and functions in the same way as Christianity did when we were a productive nation. There is a strong compatibility between the traditional Brit and the Chinese. Believe it or not, they also like us and get on with us, hence why they are so dumbfounded when British government officials stand up on the world stage and make dicks of themselves. They must think, these are not representative of the Brits we know and love - these are jerks. I try and explain to them the Brits think the same and are living in a virtual dictatorship. This is generally accepted and appreciated. Yes humility is a much respected virtue over there, so again it is why there is a connection. I'm just saying we would be fools not to do good business together. We can both be a help to the other. Oh course as copied and pasted it . It took two seconds to google something I already knew and you( the self declared China expert) obviously did not . Even though ( as you pointed out) it has been pointed out more than once I intend to repeat it again if you post that shit about honour again. It’s face . China has a long memory and a vindictive one . That’s face not honour. . The rest of your post is filler and verbiage . |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 24, 2024 19:30:44 GMT
Did you copy and paste that Face bit? It looks like it. You have said the same to me before so there is no point in repeating it as I heard you the first time. I'm not arguing with it. I'm just saying how it works in business.
I knew China was going to go full out on cars when I noticed a Chinese firm who I use their computers decided to make it work on the CAN protocol. I thought hmm, that's for cars, then I thought I wonder what is going on here then and sure enough there was a government industrial plan all along. I have since learnt a fair bit more about their governmental system since I have these very informative China videos that explains policy in detail. I mean one simple reason why they might like to follow the government's plan is there are often industrial grants available (yes the dreaded subsidies the US goes on about, except of course all industrial countries do the same). You are too quick to jump to the position your prejudices prefer when often the reasons are quite pedestrian.
Anyway, what you copy and pasted there had something to do with it as well. If we apply the Jordan Peterson view of cultures and governments then of course the same thing is going on in China. The government adapts to the culture it governs. In fact is is a very strong reason why the Chinese government are pretty soft, not the fascists the West pretend they are. You see because they value the group, they naturally work together and need little supervision. It's personal responsibility and functions in the same way as Christianity did when we were a productive nation. There is a strong compatibility between the traditional Brit and the Chinese. Believe it or not, they also like us and get on with us, hence why they are so dumbfounded when British government officials stand up on the world stage and make dicks of themselves. They must think, these are not representative of the Brits we know and love - these are jerks. I try and explain to them the Brits think the same and are living in a virtual dictatorship. This is generally accepted and appreciated. Yes humility is a much respected virtue over there, so again it is why there is a connection. I'm just saying we would be fools not to do good business together. We can both be a help to the other. Oh course as copied and pasted it . It took two seconds to google something I already knew and you( the self declared China expert) obviously did not . Even though ( as you pointed out) it has been pointed out more than once I intend to repeat it again if you post that shit about honour again. It’s face . China has a long memory and a vindictive one . That’s face not honour. . The rest of your post is filler and verbiage . You seems to have a bee in your bonnet as usual. You can't do nice civilised discussion, just like Vinny, so you have to attack some one or some thing. Maybe you should get into Chinese Buddhism. |
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Post by Vinny on Aug 24, 2024 19:38:09 GMT
Opposing evil is not a bee in my bonnet, it's just basic human decency.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 24, 2024 19:42:37 GMT
Opposing evil is not a bee in my bonnet, it's just basic human decency. You would never make a capitalist. You'd hate all your business associates and customers.
Capitalism is a positive enterprise. You just want to destroy. The prisons are full of people like you and Bentley.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 24, 2024 19:51:39 GMT
Oh course as copied and pasted it . It took two seconds to google something I already knew and you( the self declared China expert) obviously did not . Even though ( as you pointed out) it has been pointed out more than once I intend to repeat it again if you post that shit about honour again. It’s face . China has a long memory and a vindictive one . That’s face not honour. . The rest of your post is filler and verbiage . You seems to have a bee in your bonnet as usual. You can't do nice civilised discussion, just like Vinny, so you have to attack some one or some thing. Maybe you should get into Chinese Buddhism. Funny that any time I refute your bullshit about China , you kick off and say IVE got a bee in my bonnet. In quite happy about it tbh. I studied Zen Buddhism for a while ( which was from China ) and Tai chi for years ( which is based on Taoist principles ). I was a member of the Buddhist Society for a while too. If you keep posting Chinese propaganda, you will be pulled up about it. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 24, 2024 19:52:17 GMT
Opposing evil is not a bee in my bonnet, it's just basic human decency. You would never make a capitalist. You'd hate all your business associates and customers.
Capitalism is a positive enterprise. You just want to destroy. The prisons are full of people like you and Bentley.
People who point out your bullshit ?. |
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Post by Vinny on Aug 24, 2024 21:18:49 GMT
China is a Communist dictatorship with child labour. Down with the dictatorship.
And ethics are more important than profits.
I'd rather go bankrupt than get rich through crime.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 24, 2024 21:36:45 GMT
Tbh I dont worry as much about dealing with oppressive regimes .
However we should recognise them for what they are …
I’m not going to tolerate a China shill patronising us with CCP propaganda any more than I would a delusional yank insisting that the US is the land of the free and President Biden is as ( mentally)sharp as a tack.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 24, 2024 21:41:33 GMT
All the two of you can ever do is hate and want to destroy. I have never seen you ever say one positive thing about China. It's madness. For goodness sake, cancel your subscriptions to the Daily Mail or you could lose it completely. It's unbalanced to always think in one direction.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 24, 2024 21:50:20 GMT
All the two of you can ever do is hate and want to destroy. I have never seen you ever say one positive thing about China. It's madness. For goodness sake, cancel your subscriptions to the Daily Mail or you could lose it completely. It's unbalanced to always think in one direction. I say plenty of things good about China . In fact the things I dispute with you is your constant bollocks that China is a benign regime of honourable chaps that loves the British . Your problem is that you get shitty when your bollocks is pointed out and resort to bring a little bitch . I don’t read the Mail much at all and I’m not stupid and/ or naive enough to pretend I’m an expert on China by talking to Chinese bots and watching CCP sponsored videos on YouTube. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 24, 2024 22:17:16 GMT
All the two of you can ever do is hate and want to destroy. I have never seen you ever say one positive thing about China. It's madness. For goodness sake, cancel your subscriptions to the Daily Mail or you could lose it completely. It's unbalanced to always think in one direction. I say plenty of things good about China . In fact the things I dispute with you is your constant bollocks that China is a benign regime of honourable chaps that loves the British . Your problem is that you get shitty when your bollocks is pointed out and resort to bring a little bitch . I don’t read the Mail much at all and I’m not stupid and/ or naive enough to pretend I’m an expert on China by talking to Chinese bots and watching CCP sponsored videos on YouTube. There are many things I don't do as well. I could spend all day telling you all the things I don't do, but it is hardly imparting useful information. You sound more like a lawyer, telling us all the things his client didn't do or know since saying what you did do or knew can lend yourself open to attack if it is wrong. Yes I know your game and it is a game of a coward. Try sticking your neck out and say something useful for a change. I'm sick of this broken record you both sound like. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 24, 2024 22:27:15 GMT
I say plenty of things good about China . In fact the things I dispute with you is your constant bollocks that China is a benign regime of honourable chaps that loves the British . Your problem is that you get shitty when your bollocks is pointed out and resort to bring a little bitch . I don’t read the Mail much at all and I’m not stupid and/ or naive enough to pretend I’m an expert on China by talking to Chinese bots and watching CCP sponsored videos on YouTube. There are many things I don't do as well. I could spend all day telling you all the things I don't do, but it is hardly imparting useful information. You sound more like a lawyer, telling us all the things his client didn't do or know since saying what you did do or knew can lend yourself open to attack if it is wrong. Yes I know your game and it is a game of a coward. Try sticking your neck out and say something useful for a change. I'm sick of this broken record you both sound like. And you seem like a pub bore that gets shitty when their bullshit is pointed out . I am saying something useful . I saying that your bullshit that ‘ honour’ is a part of Chinese culture is wrong . I’m saying that ‘ face’ is and face is a different thing . Face can involve bitterness and revenge . Trying to resist posting bullshit fed to you by your CCP chums and you won’t get triggered by the reaction to it. Maybe stop being a little bitch that cries when someone doesn’t believe your crap. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 24, 2024 23:34:12 GMT
There are many things I don't do as well. I could spend all day telling you all the things I don't do, but it is hardly imparting useful information. You sound more like a lawyer, telling us all the things his client didn't do or know since saying what you did do or knew can lend yourself open to attack if it is wrong. Yes I know your game and it is a game of a coward. Try sticking your neck out and say something useful for a change. I'm sick of this broken record you both sound like. And you seem like a pub bore that gets shitty when their bullshit is pointed out . I am saying something useful . I saying that your bullshit that ‘ honour’ is a part of Chinese culture is wrong . I’m saying that ‘ face’ is and face is a different thing . Face can involve bitterness and revenge . Trying to resist posting bullshit fed to you by your CCP chums and you won’t get triggered by the reaction to it. Maybe stop being a little bitch that cries when someone doesn’t believe your crap. Ah so you don't like criticism. You should curtail your own then. It seems like the only kind of conversation you can have is telling us what you don't like. You have told me I'm full of bullshit a million times so it is like water off a ducks back. I'm waiting for the record to jump to the next groove. Maybe is will be stuck forever if I leave it. I guess we will have Vinny along soon to tell us to round them up, put them in a field and bomb the bastards. Mr ace hypocrite complaining Russia is too trigger happy. |
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Post by Vinny on Aug 25, 2024 1:01:59 GMT
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