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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 6, 2024 22:24:45 GMT
I think it is a done deal, I think behind the scenes the CPS, senior police officers and the government want to throw that police officer under a bus to appease aggressive muslims, their concern of course is, how are they going to get away with it. And that's what's holding proceedings up. I think everyone on the planet knows if those two muslim thugs had been white English thugs, they would have been arrested and charged the same day, and within the week they would have appeared in court and been sentenced to five years apiece. As I said, the authorities in this country are weak, they are terrified of aggressive muslims. I reckon they’ll get out of jail free and the officer a rap on the knuckles and no more You may be right, but the only reason this is proving to be such a headache is because yet again it involves aggressive muslims, and they will get away with it. It's inevitable.
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 7, 2024 6:42:06 GMT
No I don’t but their lawyer obviously does,any excuse! This isn’t a done deal and somebody must know what will go down if the officer is thrown under a bus. So despite some desperate posts on here to stick to the initial police are thugs and relying on at best questionable interpretation of events at a car park machine it will be a serious mistake to think they are going to let it lie the police federation won’t be having it. I think it is a done deal, I think behind the scenes the CPS, senior police officers and the government want to throw that police officer under a bus to appease aggressive muslims, their concern of course is, how are they going to get away with it. And that's what's holding proceedings up. I think everyone on the planet knows if those two muslim thugs had been white English thugs, they would have been arrested and charged the same day, and within the week they would have appeared in court and been sentenced to five years apiece. As I said, the authorities in this country are weak, they are terrified of aggressive muslims. Yes, that's what I think too. The police, CPS and govt are shit scared of what will happen if they charge these muslim thugs and they want to kick it into the long grass and just quietly forget about it. If they charge them there will be no alternative to a fairly long prison sentence and the muslim community will kick off big time. It's a disgrace. Our police have to ask permission from the muslim community "leaders" before they do anything.
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 7, 2024 7:30:12 GMT
I watched it too and it's pretty obvious that their lawyer is a shyster. But what I don't understand is, if the alleged 'altercation' in Starbucks was a non-event, as the lawyer claimed no more than a few angry words, what drew the armed police to the lobby of the car park where they apprehended the two youths? Who alerted them and why? The other party to the Starbucks incident, evidently a Kuwaiti, has apparently left the country.
And who were the other two men arrested on suspicion of affray and assault and then bailed? What happened to them?
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Post by sandypine on Aug 7, 2024 7:35:08 GMT
Mitigation and probably successful. I agree it will be successful, a spat between someone else and another guy who were both not involved in the assault on the police will obviously be highlighted - a 2-tier justice system seems to be the norm now. It should be no surprise as the McPherson report recommendations actually demand that that is the case and the police took on all of those recommendations. The law takes second place to social cohesion and community relations. 7. That the Home Secretary and police authorities should seek to ensure that the membership of police authorities reflects so far as possible the cultural and ethnic mix of the communities which those authorities serve. 48.That there should be immediate review and revision of racism awareness training within police services to ensure: that there exists a consistent strategy to deliver appropriate training within all police services, based upon the value of our cultured diversity; that training courses are designed and delivered in order to develop the full understanding that good community relations are essential to good policing and that a racist officer is an incompetent officer. 49. That all police officers, including CID and civilian staff, should be training in racism awareness and valuing cultural diversity. 50. That police training and practical experience in the field of racism awareness and valuing cultural diversity should regularly be conducted at local level. And that it should be recognised that local minority ethnic communities should be involved in such training and experience. 54. That consideration be given to a review of the provision of training in racism awareness and valuing cultural diversity in local government and other agencies including other sections of the criminal justice system. 70. That in creating strategies under the provisions of the Crime and Disorder Act or otherwise police services, local government and relevant agencies should specifically consider implementing community and local initiatives aimed at promoting cultural diversity and addressing racism and the need for focused, consistent support for such initiatives.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2024 15:18:48 GMT
I think it is a done deal, I think behind the scenes the CPS, senior police officers and the government want to throw that police officer under a bus to appease aggressive muslims, their concern of course is, how are they going to get away with it. And that's what's holding proceedings up. I think everyone on the planet knows if those two muslim thugs had been white English thugs, they would have been arrested and charged the same day, and within the week they would have appeared in court and been sentenced to five years apiece. As I said, the authorities in this country are weak, they are terrified of aggressive muslims. I reckon they’ll get out of jail free and the officer a rap on the knuckles and no more I hope not, because assault police/emergency worker should always gain a custodial sentence.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 7, 2024 18:26:59 GMT
I reckon they’ll get out of jail free and the officer a rap on the knuckles and no more I hope not, because assault police/emergency worker should always gain a custodial sentence. Of course it should but should and would are two different things .
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 8, 2024 11:45:51 GMT
Has anyone else picked up on this...
A white Englishman who assaulted a police officer during a demonstration has within days of the offence been arrested, charged, appeared in court and sentenced to three years in prison.
Three weeks ago two Pakistani muslims violently assaulted two police officers at Manchester airport. They havent even been charged.
And Starmer, Rowley and equally clueless lefties say we do not have two tier policing. Ha.
Allahu akbar, as the police say.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 8, 2024 13:19:47 GMT
Breaking news ref the vicious attack on police at Manchester airport. Believe it or not, a second Police officer has been put under criminal investigation for the Manchester Airport incident last month. Lets not forget what happened, two Pakistani muslins in a sustained attack violently assaulted two police officers, one of whom was punched no fewar than 15 times in the face and head, the other was punched into a state of semi consciousness and received a broken nose. This was an extremely vicious attack on the police, but because the violent assailants are muslims they haven't been charged. Policing without fear or favour, or two tier policing? You choose...
news.sky.com/video/new-footage-shows-moments-before-man-kicked-in-head-by-police-officer-at-manchester-airport-13186132
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 8, 2024 15:08:12 GMT
Nothing surprises me anymore.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 8, 2024 21:48:52 GMT
By the way, the white English (None muslim) chap who was arrested and in record time charged, put before the courts, found guilty and sentenced to three years for assaulting a police officer, didn't actually assault a police officer. He punched a police officers riot shield. He was then forced to the ground handcuffed and carted off. This is the police officers bodycam footage that was used to prosecute him - youtu.be/UH_5Fw7Muzk?feature=sharedCompare that, to the clip in the link - news.sky.com/video/new-footage-shows-moments-before-man-kicked-in-head-by-police-officer-at-manchester-airport-13186132It's absolutely ridiculous. A chap is sentenced to three years in prison for punching a coppers riot shield. And a couple of weeks ago two Pakistani men viciously beat up two police officers in full view of witnesses and on CCTV, and they haven't been charged let alone been to court. Rowley and Starmer say we don't have two tier policing in this country. Clearly, the evidence suggests otherwise.
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 9, 2024 6:28:38 GMT
The police are trying to say that the Manchester airport case is "Very complex" but it's actually extremely simple. The police attempted to arrest two muslim men for an altercation in an airport coffee shop and the two muslims went berserk and attacked them causing actual bodily harm. If the "far Right" bloke got 3 years for punching a riot shield I'd say that these muslims should get at least 10 years. But I don't think they'll ever be charged.
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Post by Hutchyns on Aug 9, 2024 7:23:16 GMT
Red Rackham
Far more about what happened is probably being revealed with clarity once the bodycam recordings have been examined etc. Hence the grounds for a further criminal investigation. What we've so far seen as regards what happened is proving to only be a selective part of the whole, as the need for this new criminal investigation indicates.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 9, 2024 9:30:43 GMT
Red Rackham Far more about what happened is probably being revealed with clarity once the bodycam recordings have been examined etc. Hence the grounds for a further criminal investigation. What we've so far seen as regards what happened is proving to only be a selective part of the whole, as the need for this new criminal investigation indicates. So the legal blokes claims the Bodycam may have been switched off is cobblers
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Post by Orac on Aug 9, 2024 9:42:46 GMT
Red Rackham Far more about what happened is probably being revealed with clarity once the bodycam recordings have been examined etc. Hence the grounds for a further criminal investigation. What we've so far seen as regards what happened is proving to only be a selective part of the whole, as the need for this new criminal investigation indicates. Can we look forward to similar thorough investigations of the police's actions with respect to English rioters who assault the police? Can we also expect these extensive investigations to potentially mitigate or nullify the assault charges in cases where the assault on the police is itself recorded?
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Post by Hutchyns on Aug 9, 2024 11:36:23 GMT
Red Rackham Far more about what happened is probably being revealed with clarity once the bodycam recordings have been examined etc. Hence the grounds for a further criminal investigation. What we've so far seen as regards what happened is proving to only be a selective part of the whole, as the need for this new criminal investigation indicates. So the legal blokes claims the Bodycam may have been switched off is cobblers If you've established that the Officer referred to in RR's post and the Officer referred to by the 'legal bloke' are one and the same, then quite possibly. Then again maybe that Officer's 'activities' were recorded on a fellow Officer's bodycam that was fully functioning. Obviously the evidence warranting a further criminal investigation has come from somewhere.
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