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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 7, 2024 17:57:04 GMT
That would make you an immigrant. Sadly for you my ancestor's skill in hand to hand combat says otherwise. I am not an immigrant, I am the rightful heir to Northamptonshire. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 7, 2024 18:00:10 GMT
So the lad in Southport because he was born in Wales and had spent all his life in Wales is Welsh, right? All The Best Technically yes. However most people born in Cardiff are not entitled to a Rwandan passport. When I grew up there, true enough, but have you seen the shithole it is now. About one in four are, and if sunak had got his fucking act together, another one in three would have one now |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 7, 2024 18:00:26 GMT
That would make you an immigrant. Sadly for you my ancestor's skill in hand to hand combat says otherwise. I am not an immigrant, I am the rightful heir to Northamptonshire. But if you are a right to Northamptonshire, but you are claiming that Wales has a separate ethnicity, then by definition... |
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 7, 2024 18:09:56 GMT
Sadly for you my ancestor's skill in hand to hand combat says otherwise. I am not an immigrant, I am the rightful heir to Northamptonshire. But if you are a right to Northamptonshire, but you are claiming that Wales has a separate ethnicity, then by definition... My direct ancestor arrived here with William the bastard. He can be seen about 175 people in at the foot of the Bayeux Tapestry. No one who challenged his right to be called an English Noble seemed keen to stick around and after Harold's unfortunate urgent need for a Specsavers branch about a millennia before they existed, William handed him - and according to the document, me, Northamptonshire as a thank you. One of my later ancestors did a deal with Edward zlingshanks to give up his right of ownership and with it the fun with all the virgins, but if Charlie violated the terms I'm declaring the treaty void and having it back. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 7, 2024 18:48:46 GMT
But if you are a right to Northamptonshire, but you are claiming that Wales has a separate ethnicity, then by definition... My direct ancestor arrived here with William the bastard. He can be seen about 175 people in at the foot of the Bayeux Tapestry. No one who challenged his right to be called an English Noble seemed keen to stick around and after Harold's unfortunate urgent need for a Specsavers branch about a millennia before they existed, William handed him - and according to the document, me, Northamptonshire as a thank you. One of my later ancestors did a deal with Edward zlingshanks to give up his right of ownership and with it the fun with all the virgins, but if Charlie violated the terms I'm declaring the treaty void and having it back. Ah, so ethnicity is defined by threats. Right oh. My ethnicity is a Gregg's steak bake, and I'll decapitate anyone who contradicts me. |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 7, 2024 19:20:02 GMT
Your googling has turned up Wikipedia's version of the official narrative which has been cobbled together for administrative convenience by bureaucrats to assist in their self-imposed duty of 'ethnic monitoring'. It is not based on ethnography or anthropology or even history. Of necessity it is of very coarse granularity, not just in terms of the native ethnies of the British but glomming together the hundreds of ethnies in the subcontinent and China into just four 'ethnic groups'. You can have another go if you wish. I'll treat "official" as "correct, but not to your satisfaction". I prefer the Mandla v Dowel Lee law Lords judgement which again is different and probably much narrower in many instances. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 7, 2024 19:41:37 GMT
I must remember that Dame Shirley Bassey is really a West Indian immigrant, and that been born in Wales does not make her Welsh, because she is the wrong colour. Are people REALLY so backwards and racist ? She’s a second generation immigrant. You might not know this but she is black because her father was Nigerian. I never knew she was a West Indian immigrant … or perhaps you just made that up . |
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 7, 2024 20:38:21 GMT
Your googling has turned up Wikipedia's version of the official narrative which has been cobbled together for administrative convenience by bureaucrats to assist in their self-imposed duty of 'ethnic monitoring'. It is not based on ethnography or anthropology or even history. Of necessity it is of very coarse granularity, not just in terms of the native ethnies of the British but glomming together the hundreds of ethnies in the subcontinent and China into just four 'ethnic groups'. You can have another go if you wish. I'll treat "official" as "correct, but not to your satisfaction". Official in this instance is shorthand for administratively convenient, it has nothing whatsoever to do with being scientifically correct. |
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Post by aristaeus on Aug 8, 2024 7:58:52 GMT
If they had spent all their life at that time in India, then yes. So the lad in Southport because he was born in Wales and had spent all his life in Wales is Welsh, right? All The Best Of course he is Welsh. |
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Post by thomas on Aug 8, 2024 8:02:11 GMT
So the lad in Southport because he was born in Wales and had spent all his life in Wales is Welsh, right? All The Best Of course he is Welsh. prove it? |
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Post by aristaeus on Aug 8, 2024 8:27:08 GMT
He was born and raised in Wales. |
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Post by thomas on Aug 8, 2024 8:29:27 GMT
He was born and raised in Wales. if you are born in a stable it doesn't make you a horse. There is a guy on this forum who was also born and raised in Wales , and he categorically says he isnt welsh in terms of national identity , because national identity is a mindset. So can you prove this guy was welsh or not , or are you going to continue to make assumptions for him? |
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Post by Vinny on Aug 8, 2024 8:31:30 GMT
It seems if he does not roll over and follow the narrative he must be denounced. Amazing when you consider that 100% of the violence is from the Far Right, what Tice ought to have done is condemn the riots in Bristol, Manchester, Sunderland, Hull, Bury, Stoke, Middlesbrough, LIverpool and other places ALL OF WHICH were caused by the Far Right. where does he get the idea from that any of the violence and vandalism was caused by Left wing groups. ? He's like Donald Trump, pretending that this was somehow caused, or partly caused by the far Left, or Left wing millitant groups ... it wasn't. Not too many years ago this happened: Rioters definitely weren't right wingers.
All rioting is wrong, regardless of left right nature of the rioters.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2024 9:15:27 GMT
He was born and raised in Wales. Yes, he got a grade A in the Welsh Language and his first words were Yaki dah. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 8, 2024 9:18:17 GMT
He was born and raised in Wales. if you are born in a stable it doesn't make you a horse. Ah, Bernard Manning level racism. Well done. Guess you are outed now. Of course, if that stable was in Wales it would make you Welsh. All The Best |
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