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Post by ratcliff on Aug 6, 2024 11:34:36 GMT
Welsh National my viking arse.
He is a fucking immigrant and the only people wanting him west of Offas Dyke are the plaid cymru cottage burners because his immigrant patois drowns out the english voices of the descendents of those who put their ancestors to the sword
It is in fact my ancestor's fault he is here
If we had done the job properly and not bungled it like the tutsi's and hutus who also stopped short of throwing the other tribe wholesale over a cliff into the sea there would be no cottage burners and no nation of sanctuary.
If anything, the people who are really to blame ae Rhodri, Caerwyn and wankford who each promoted a "come on in, the benefits are lovely" culture and let the scum livve here
Where would the place of Birth be on his Birth certificate? Cliff Richard and Joanna Lumley were both born in India , according to your logic you'd call both of them Indian nationals? |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 6, 2024 11:44:48 GMT
Where would the place of Birth be on his Birth certificate? Cliff Richard and Joanna Lumley were both born in India , according to your logic you'd call both of them Indian nationals? Unless they subsequently became nationalised British. All The Best |
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 6, 2024 13:51:54 GMT
actually the only information i could find referred to him living here. And being born here doesn’t make him welsh any more than that corrupt zambian twat. It makes him british IF his parents had the right to remain when he was born. If they were not naturalised at that time then he’s a fucking immigrant without citizenship and should be deported. Yes it does, the law of Jus Soli. Pretend it doesn't exist all you like. Were you born in Wales? How far back do we go to find an ancestor of your that wasn't? All The Best I was born in the back of an ambulance whose driver failed to get my mother to decent healthcare in time. I was actually on the english side of john speed’s 1600 map at the time. I am a son of an Essex Man and the blood of the Sigurd viking flows through my veins. Its DNA also appears in my mitochondria, proving that the bloodline from the welsh prince my mother’s line descends clearly had a thing for flaxen haird blue eyed six foot musclemen |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 6, 2024 14:04:15 GMT
Yes it does, the law of Jus Soli. Pretend it doesn't exist all you like. Were you born in Wales? How far back do we go to find an ancestor of your that wasn't? All The Best I was born in the back of an ambulance whose driver failed to get my mother to decent healthcare in time. I was actually on the english side of john speed’s 1600 map at the time. I am a son of an Essex Man and the blood of the Sigurd viking flows through my veins. Its DNA also appears in my mitochondria, proving that the bloodline from the welsh prince my mother’s line descends clearly had a thing for flaxen haird blue eyed six foot musclemen Yeah, my ancestry is almost exclusively East Anglian, and has a significant Viking element. There are those of Syrian descent that have been here a thousand years longer our Viking ancestors. All The Best |
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 6, 2024 14:07:02 GMT
I was born in the back of an ambulance whose driver failed to get my mother to decent healthcare in time. I was actually on the english side of john speed’s 1600 map at the time. I am a son of an Essex Man and the blood of the Sigurd viking flows through my veins. Its DNA also appears in my mitochondria, proving that the bloodline from the welsh prince my mother’s line descends clearly had a thing for flaxen haird blue eyed six foot musclemen Yeah, my ancestry is almost exclusively East Anglian, and has a significant Viking element. There are those of Syrian descent that have been here a thousand years longer our Viking ancestors. All The Best I have on many occasions admitted how remiss my ancestors were in not driving them over a cliff into the sea. I’ll be delighted to do my bit to sort out that oversight |
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Post by dodgydave on Aug 7, 2024 10:07:01 GMT
If he was born in Wales then of course he is Welsh.
The issue is they cynically told us he was "from Cardiff" in an attempt to dismiss any racial element to the attack.
If a white man had killed three black children within a nano second senior politicians and interest groups would be calling it a racist attack. Look what happened at Manchester Airport, they were all instantly on the bandwagon, nobody adopted a "let's wait and see" position... apart from the likes of Andy Burnham because he had obvious seen the full footage before it was leaked.
The "far right" is tiny in this country. Impressionable young men are joining in these riots because (1) the double standards are being pointed out (2) politicians and the media won't address that letting 10 million people in requires building 10% more hospital, GPs, dentists, houses etc... they fucking lie and blame it on something else so it allows bad actors to push the narrative that it is the fault of the immigrants.
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 7, 2024 10:48:13 GMT
If he was born in Wales then of course he is Welsh. The issue is they cynically told us he was "from Cardiff" in an attempt to dismiss any racial element to the attack. Is Cardiff not in Wales? So saying he was "from Cardiff" is merely a subset of the much broader he is "from Wales". There is only a perceived "cynical attempt to dismiss any racial element" if one believes that Nationality is exclusively a by-product of Ethnicity, and vice versa. NOTE: People who do believe that tend to be racists. All The Best |
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Post by witchfinder on Aug 7, 2024 10:54:01 GMT
I must remember that Dame Shirley Bassey is really a West Indian immigrant, and that been born in Wales does not make her Welsh, because she is the wrong colour.
Are people REALLY so backwards and racist ?
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Post by dodgydave on Aug 7, 2024 11:27:33 GMT
If he was born in Wales then of course he is Welsh. The issue is they cynically told us he was "from Cardiff" in an attempt to dismiss any racial element to the attack. Is Cardiff not in Wales? So saying he was "from Cardiff" is merely a subset of the much broader he is "from Wales". There is only a perceived "cynical attempt to dismiss any racial element" if one believes that Nationality is exclusively a by-product of Ethnicity, and vice versa. NOTE: People who do believe that tend to be racists. All The Best No, people who have been to Wales assume that somebody from Cardiff is white because... unlike the rest of the UK, it is indeed mostly white. Immigrants tend to move to where there is work... hence they don't move to fucking Wales!! Do you not think is was relevant to mention that a black man had killed three white children? The vaccuum of information allowed the conspiracy theorists to say "a Muslim did it". When the mainstream lies, bad actors take over the narrative. I'll correct that for you: NOTE: Black people who kill white people tend to be racists. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 7, 2024 11:39:12 GMT
Is Cardiff not in Wales? So saying he was "from Cardiff" is merely a subset of the much broader he is "from Wales". There is only a perceived "cynical attempt to dismiss any racial element" if one believes that Nationality is exclusively a by-product of Ethnicity, and vice versa. NOTE: People who do believe that tend to be racists. All The Best No, people who have been to Wales assume that somebody from Cardiff is white because... unlike the rest of the UK, it is indeed mostly white. Immigrants tend to move to where there is work... hence they don't move to fucking Wales!! Do you not think is was relevant to mention that a black man had killed three white children? The vaccuum of information allowed the conspiracy theorists to say "a Muslim did it". When the mainstream lies, bad actors take over the narrative. I'll correct that for you: NOTE: Black people who kill white people tend to be racists. Not all crimes that entail a disparity of ethnicity are racially motivated crimes. You need the full data set of "murders of white people carried out by black people" to determine your final claim, do you have access to that? If not it is just another conspiracy theory. All The Best |
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Post by dodgydave on Aug 7, 2024 11:52:36 GMT
No, people who have been to Wales assume that somebody from Cardiff is white because... unlike the rest of the UK, it is indeed mostly white. Immigrants tend to move to where there is work... hence they don't move to fucking Wales!! Do you not think is was relevant to mention that a black man had killed three white children? The vaccuum of information allowed the conspiracy theorists to say "a Muslim did it". When the mainstream lies, bad actors take over the narrative. I'll correct that for you: NOTE: Black people who kill white people tend to be racists. Not all crimes that entail a disparity of ethnicity are racially motivated crimes. You need the full data set of "murders of white people carried out by black people" to determine your final claim, do you have access to that? If not it is just another conspiracy theory. All The Best Ah I see, you think black people cannot be racist lol. What is more likely... this is a "random" attack... or a black person develops a grudge against white people after experiencing racism / constantly being told he is being oppressed by them? You won't find a data set like that... and for good reason... it would be highly inflammatory and used by bad actors. You are missing the point entirely, when you deny the obvious, you allow the bad actors to take over the narrative. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 7, 2024 12:19:07 GMT
No, because I do not for a second think his ethnicity had anything at all to do with his crimes.Tolerating far right fascists on social media, rather than closing them down and charging them allowed "conspiracy theorists to say "a Muslim did it".Not all crimes that entail a disparity of ethnicity are racially motivated crimes. You need the full data set of "murders of white people carried out by black people" to determine your final claim, do you have access to that? If not it is just another conspiracy theory. All The Best
What is more likely... this is a "random" attack... or a black person develops a grudge against white people after experiencing racism / constantly being told he is being oppressed by them? You won't find a data set like that... and for good reason... it would be highly inflammatory and used by bad actors. You are missing the point entirely, when you deny the obvious, you allow the bad actors to take over the narrative. Where did I say that? Or course black people can be racist, anyone, from any ethnicity, can be racist. I regularly call out both BLM, and MOBO as racist - because there would be an uproar if someone wanted to start WLM or MOWO. There was, last year, a business grant scheme for start-ups that was exclusively funded by BAME business leaders, and exclusively available to BAME start-ups, I called that out as racist, and even wrote to the organisation involved to point out their racism and hypocrisy. Any and all organisations, events, schemes etc that have ethnicity as part of their qualifying criteria are, de facto and de jure, racist. So called "positive discrimination" is just "racial discrimination" and needs to be stamped out. Bad Actors are taking over the narrative - they've been rioting for a week or more, and rather than condemning them, far too many useful idiots are enabling them by making excuses for them. All The Best |
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Post by aristaeus on Aug 7, 2024 12:31:39 GMT
Where would the place of Birth be on his Birth certificate? Cliff Richard and Joanna Lumley were both born in India , according to your logic you'd call both of them Indian nationals? If they had spent all their life at that time in India, then yes. |
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Post by aristaeus on Aug 7, 2024 12:33:57 GMT
Ah I see, you think black people cannot be racist lol.
What is more likely... this is a "random" attack... or a black person develops a grudge against white people after experiencing racism / constantly being told he is being oppressed by them? You won't find a data set like that... and for good reason... it would be highly inflammatory and used by bad actors. You are missing the point entirely, when you deny the obvious, you allow the bad actors to take over the narrative. Where did I say that? Or course black people can be racist, anyone, from any ethnicity, can be racist. I regularly call out both BLM, and MOBO as racist - because there would be an uproar if someone wanted to start WLM or MOWO. There was, last year, a business grant scheme for start-ups that was exclusively funded by BAME business leaders, and exclusively available to BAME start-ups, I called that out as racist, and even wrote to the organisation involved to point out their racism and hypocrisy. Any and all organisations, events, schemes etc that have ethnicity as part of their qualifying criteria are, de facto and de jure, racist. So called "positive discrimination" is just "racial discrimination" and needs to be stamped out. Bad Actors are taking over the narrative - they've been rioting for a week or more, and rather than condemning them, far too many useful idiots are enabling them by making excuses for them. All The Best Positive discrimination is illegal in the UK. Trying to level the playing field is not racist or illegal. |
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Post by aristaeus on Aug 7, 2024 12:37:28 GMT
Yeah, my ancestry is almost exclusively East Anglian, and has a significant Viking element. There are those of Syrian descent that have been here a thousand years longer our Viking ancestors. All The Best I have on many occasions admitted how remiss my ancestors were in not driving them over a cliff into the sea. I’ll be delighted to do my bit to sort out that oversight Not gonna lie, this sounds like you want to kill Muslims. |
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