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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 7, 2024 12:37:37 GMT
Cliff Richard and Joanna Lumley were both born in India , according to your logic you'd call both of them Indian nationals? If they had spent all their life at that time in India, then yes. So the lad in Southport because he was born in Wales and had spent all his life in Wales is Welsh, right? All The Best |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 7, 2024 12:42:21 GMT
If they had spent all their life at that time in India, then yes. So the lad in Southport because he was born in Wales and had spent all his life in Wales is Welsh, right? All The Best But he is an ethnic minority and if Welsh is an ethnicity then he is not. You give him special rights because he is an ethnic minority but then take away the right of the Welsh to consider themselves an ethnic group. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 7, 2024 12:54:47 GMT
I have on many occasions admitted how remiss my ancestors were in not driving them over a cliff into the sea. I’ll be delighted to do my bit to sort out that oversight Not gonna lie, this sounds like you want to kill Muslims. Not at all. I wish to see those who wish to come to this country and NOT integrate into its society choose to jump back in their dinghy and paddle off I see the former Scottish First Minister declaring the country is no longer one he wishes to live in. This is an excellent start. If his fellow cultists had been a little more widely critical of their fellow cultist who raped my daughter 15 years ago i might perhaps have a different opinion. But they did not, and for that they must pay. And payback time seems to have arrived. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 7, 2024 13:38:55 GMT
Not gonna lie, this sounds like you want to kill Muslims. Not at all. I wish to see those who wish to come to this country and NOT integrate into its society choose to jump back in their dinghy and paddle off I see the former Scottish First Minister declaring the country is no longer one he wishes to live in. This is an excellent start. If his fellow cultists had been a little more widely critical of their fellow cultist who raped my daughter 15 years ago i might perhaps have a different opinion. But they did not, and for that they must pay. And payback time seems to have arrived. Wait to see what the Scottish First Minister has to say if we tell him we intend to send all illegals to Scotland, who are not taking their fair share of migrants, the SNP use any excuse to trash the English, so let's send them all his way. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 7, 2024 14:22:08 GMT
So the lad in Southport because he was born in Wales and had spent all his life in Wales is Welsh, right? All The Best But he is an ethnic minority and if Welsh is an ethnicity then he is not. You give him special rights because he is an ethnic minority but then take away the right of the Welsh to consider themselves an ethnic group. No. Welsh is not an ethnicity. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 7, 2024 14:26:05 GMT
But he is an ethnic minority and if Welsh is an ethnicity then he is not. You give him special rights because he is an ethnic minority but then take away the right of the Welsh to consider themselves an ethnic group. No. Welsh is not an ethnicity. Well I'll just leave this here en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_peopleI'm not Welsh. I'm Viking |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 7, 2024 14:30:15 GMT
But he is an ethnic minority and if Welsh is an ethnicity then he is not. You give him special rights because he is an ethnic minority but then take away the right of the Welsh to consider themselves an ethnic group. No. Welsh is not an ethnicity. So if you are ethnic minority in Wales who are the ethnic majority? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 7, 2024 14:31:12 GMT
But he is an ethnic minority and if Welsh is an ethnicity then he is not. You give him special rights because he is an ethnic minority but then take away the right of the Welsh to consider themselves an ethnic group. No. Welsh is not an ethnicity. By which definition?
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 7, 2024 14:33:39 GMT
Is Cardiff not in Wales? So saying he was "from Cardiff" is merely a subset of the much broader he is "from Wales". There is only a perceived "cynical attempt to dismiss any racial element" if one believes that Nationality is exclusively a by-product of Ethnicity, and vice versa. NOTE: People who do believe that tend to be racists. All The Best No, people who have been to Wales assume that somebody from Cardiff is white because... unlike the rest of the UK, it is indeed mostly white. Immigrants tend to move to where there is work... hence they don't move to fucking Wales!! Do you not think is was relevant to mention that a black man had killed three white children? The vaccuum of information allowed the conspiracy theorists to say "a Muslim did it". When the mainstream lies, bad actors take over the narrative. I'll correct that for you: NOTE: Black people who kill white people tend to be racists. It may well transpire that he is a racist, but we don't know at this stage. I think the question for me is if the killer was white, would you similarly demand this information? For example with Kyle Clifford, would you want the fact that he was white to be emphasised? So the question is: when is the ethnicity of criminals important to announce to the public? A) All the time B) When the victims are of a different ethnicity to the victim(s) C) Only when they are black or brown Not an easy question to answer. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 7, 2024 14:37:49 GMT
That would make you an immigrant. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 7, 2024 16:37:33 GMT
No. Welsh is not an ethnicity. By which definition?
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 7, 2024 17:06:27 GMT
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 7, 2024 17:34:20 GMT
Your googling has turned up Wikipedia's version of the official narrative which has been cobbled together for administrative convenience by bureaucrats to assist in their self-imposed duty of 'ethnic monitoring'. It is not based on ethnography or anthropology or even history. Of necessity it is of very coarse granularity, not just in terms of the native ethnies of the British but glomming together the hundreds of ethnies in the subcontinent and China into just four 'ethnic groups'.
You can have another go if you wish.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2024 17:38:07 GMT
If they had spent all their life at that time in India, then yes. So the lad in Southport because he was born in Wales and had spent all his life in Wales is Welsh, right? All The Best Technically yes. However most people born in Cardiff are not entitled to a Rwandan passport. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 7, 2024 17:40:14 GMT
Your googling has turned up Wikipedia's version of the official narrative which has been cobbled together for administrative convenience by bureaucrats to assist in their self-imposed duty of 'ethnic monitoring'. It is not based on ethnography or anthropology or even history. Of necessity it is of very coarse granularity, not just in terms of the native ethnies of the British but glomming together the hundreds of ethnies in the subcontinent and China into just four 'ethnic groups'. You can have another go if you wish. I'll treat "official" as "correct, but not to your satisfaction". |
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