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Post by ProVeritas on Sept 15, 2024 16:11:30 GMT
31 million excess deaths was the Worldwide number … not the UK. … If you read the OP and studied the content … ?? [… oh dear … we have another ‘Vinny-clone’ here … ] Ah, so the source material was dumb enough to think that vaccinating had the same consequences in every country. So no consideration taken for underlying health conditions, general health of a population, ability of health services to cope without vaccinations etc? So, all just a guess then. All The Best
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Post by Dubdrifter on Sept 15, 2024 16:18:14 GMT
Astra Zeneca have been forced to admit … after a court case …. that their vaccine was responsible for causing blood clots in some people … and the rising evidence of blood clotting in living and dead people … uncovered by embalmers who record a sudden change in human circulatory issues after the mRNA spiked protein vaccination programme was rolled out …
…. resulting in a drastic increase in myocardial incidents … even amongst young persons jabbed. …. shows that people need to focus on vaccine harm as well as covid infection and long covid … to explain this dramatic clotting pandemic.
Luckily Conspiracy Factists and forensic scientific investigators are keeping this subject in the public domain … whilst the MSM (and minions like Vinny) work hard to distract and bury complicity and responsibility.
… protect those who made ££$$€€¥€ trillions from this snake oil remedy that delivered little protection to those that were duped to take it.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Sept 15, 2024 16:25:31 GMT
Ah, so the source material was dumb enough to think that vaccinating had the same consequences in every country. So no consideration taken for underlying health conditions, general health of a population, ability of health services to cope without vaccinations etc? So, all just a guess then. All The Best No, … the words ‘excess deaths’ … means above the norm … for each Country … which takes into account all the factors you mention. …. which is why these comprehensive stats are very alarming … and shouldn’t be brushed aside as ‘conspiracy theory’.
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Post by Vinny on Sept 15, 2024 16:31:52 GMT
Delusional rubbish.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 15, 2024 18:12:51 GMT
I wouldn't pat yourself on the back over remaining vaccine free so soon. Do you know why it did you in for a month? It damages your organs. The vaccine was designed to limit the seriousness of the infection. Basically it's like cutting your finger, sticking a bandage on it, it then gets infected and oozes yellow shit out of it... and then hoping it gets better naturally rather than taking antibiotics. The high number of excess deaths will be due to: (1) people dying of Covid (2) people having their organs damaged by Covid and then having complications (3) long waiting lists (4) people ignoring medical conditions because they didn't want to catch Covid in a GP surgery / hospital (5) stress / suicide caused by lockdowns, and financial problems (6) small number of vaccine damaged people I did not pat myself it was a statement of fact. The high number of excess deaths may be due to some of the above as well as other factors including vaccine damage which is confirmed as happening although the levels are in dispute. I am of an age when many things could carry me off tomorrow including flu and I have not been jabbed for that either having seen how ill many others have become from the injection. What is clear is 'safe and effective' was basically bollocks as it was sold to the public on the basis that it would stop you getting Covid and stop you passing it on I had a flu jab when I last worked in aviation a couple of years prior to the pandemic and my nose hasn't stopped running since. Many have died or had life changing symptoms from flu jabs.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Sept 16, 2024 9:11:44 GMT
To ALL who are suffering from long Covid and vaccine harm … a speedy recovery.
For all those peddling the LIE vaccine harm is a ‘delusion’. … affecting only a very small minority …
….Please watch this essential discussion on the evidence of vaccine harm … extracted by a Dutch researcher who used AI to collate a complex array of the latest data ….to throw up an alarming clear picture of the current European health situation.
… As you can see … the resistance and cover-up of Government - failure to properly investigate vaccine harm, a lack of transparency … organised vilification …. was the same in Holland as in the UK.
What comes out of this stat analysis … is just the tip of the iceberg …. a steep rise in the graph from early 2023 …. a dramatic increase in excess deaths.
NOTE: the dramatic increase in prescription of anti-inflammatory drugs to combat clotting symptoms and also a dramatic rise in cancer drugs being administered.
(The debate is whether cancer cases spiked because of lockdown and delays on diagnosis and treatment for 2 years … or if there is a new element in addition to myocardial and clotting side effects … that is now emerging … in the growing list of side effects from mRNA vaccine injection.]
(A MUST SEE … with many valid points raised. …. One of Redacted’s best discussions.)
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Post by Vinny on Sept 16, 2024 12:03:49 GMT
Once again the virus killed tens of millions.
Complications with the vaccines (because everyone's immune system is different) have killed tens of thousands.
The vaccines have saved several million lives.
Conspiracy pushers simply distract from the dictatorship in China which unleashed the virus on the world in the first place and the open borders which allowed its spread.
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Post by dodgydave on Sept 16, 2024 13:26:31 GMT
To ALL who are suffering from long Covid and vaccine harm … a speedy recovery. For all those peddling the LIE vaccine harm is a ‘delusion’. … affecting only a very small minority … What comes out of this stat analysis … is just the tip of the iceberg …. a steep rise in the graph from early 2023 …. a dramatic increase in excess deaths. You cannot use excess deaths figures to suggest vaccine damage is causing a lot of deaths lol. We need long-term, controlled studies to show what is happening. We are seeing massive excess deaths because: 1) Covid damages your organs... so even if it does't kill you straight away your organs are weak and prone to failing the next time they are stressed. 2) The lockdowns caused a massive back log in hospital appointments so people are not getting diagnosed as early... so are at a greater chance of dying. 3) Covid is still running rampant, and all you bright sparks that remained unvaccinated are dying from it. It killed 8,000 in the week ending 30th August. 4) Suicide is increasing... as it does when times are hard. 5) Sir Keir Starmer
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Post by ProVeritas on Sept 16, 2024 17:28:41 GMT
To ALL who are suffering from long Covid and vaccine harm … a speedy recovery. For all those peddling the LIE vaccine harm is a ‘delusion’. … affecting only a very small minority … …. Please watch this essential discussion on the evidence of vaccine harm … extracted by a Dutch researcher who used AI to collate a complex array of the latest data ….to throw up an alarming clear picture of the current European health situation. … As you can see … the resistance and cover-up of Government - failure to properly investigate vaccine harm, a lack of transparency … organised vilification …. was the same in Holland as in the UK. What comes out of this stat analysis … is just the tip of the iceberg …. a steep rise in the graph from early 2023 …. a dramatic increase in excess deaths. NOTE: the dramatic increase in prescription of anti-inflammatory drugs to combat clotting symptoms and also a dramatic rise in cancer drugs being administered. (The debate is whether cancer cases spiked because of lockdown and delays on diagnosis and treatment for 2 years … or if there is a new element in addition to myocardial and clotting side effects … that is now emerging … in the growing list of side effects from mRNA vaccine injection.] (A MUST SEE … with many valid points raised. …. One of Redacted’s best discussions.) Why would anyone believe a video from a person so fringe that they were considered too looney for even Fox News (a channel infamous for lying about Climate Change and Covid), and who has been investigated and / or charged numerous times for real estate scams. Is this man trustworthy? You decide. All The Best
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Post by Dubdrifter on Sept 17, 2024 1:31:38 GMT
You cannot use excess deaths figures to suggest vaccine damage is causing a lot of deaths lol.We need long-term, controlled studies to show what is happening. We are seeing massive excess deaths because: 1) Covid damages your organs... so even if it does't kill you straight away your organs are weak and prone to failing the next time they are stressed. 2) The lockdowns caused a massive back log in hospital appointments so people are not getting diagnosed as early... so are at a greater chance of dying. 3) Covid is still running rampant, and all you bright sparks that remained unvaccinated are dying from it. It killed 8,000 in the week ending 30th August. 4) Suicide is increasing... as it does when times are hard. 5) Sir Keir Starmer The studies were done … see the OP video again …. which concludes that it was measures taken by Governments … from vaccination to lockdown, to dumping recovering infected people in nursing homes, … the PHE Policies … that caused marked spikes in excess deaths worldwide … Excess deaths dropped dramatically when analysing across a border where policies were different. Also … protein clotting, myocardial effects and other symptoms had strong links to excess deaths and vaccine side effects … mRNA spiked protein production was all part of the gene therapy principles of these jabs … but nobody expected this protein production to clog arteries and veins …. With all the symptoms you would expect from such catastrophic blockages. So you are claiming 8,000 dead in a week … were unvaccinated …?? Link please to that data. Is that number Worldwide or UK only? … how does that compare to the current normal death rate worldwide/UK? Blaming Kier Starmer for excess deaths in these stats gathered before he was elected … is rather lame, tbh..
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Post by Vinny on Sept 17, 2024 6:25:09 GMT
Weird how you're always posting nonsense like four hours before most of us get up. Almost like you live in a different time zone, Putin supporting COVID denier.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Sept 17, 2024 12:02:54 GMT
Some people in the West Midlands, UK work and have a life during the day … and just have odd hours they can post a little on this Forum, … sometimes I get up for a pee break at 3am … and then find a good reason to piss on some of the bollocks you write, Vinny.🤣
… Don’t try and overthink your evidence-free theory everyone who doesn’t buy into Western Deep State narratives … has Russian/Chinese connections … It’s a common MSM narrative and misunderstanding … Half of America … and most of the Free World thinks your MSM narratives are ‘suspect’ … and you are all crooks. …and they aren’t really concerned about Russians or Chinese interests … just how this ‘corruption’ is damaging their financial situation, health and well-being.
The CIA/MI5+6 has likely been tracking my Forum posts for 8 years now.
… they know I use just a couple of UK IP addresses regularly … and don’t use a VPN
…and they know how independent and poorly connected I am.
… a nobody with an opinion who just drops stuff trawled off the Internet … to try and build a few solid evidence-based arguments
Factionless …
… can you say the same, V … ??
…. I’ve hinted who you likely work for … the CIA … and you never deny it … which is odd …. and you let slip you seem to have connections with those that want to censor the Internet.
So just accept I am who I say I am … and move on to just address the POV I drop.
In this instance … vaccination delivered little immunity … but a lot of protein clogging!
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Post by Vinny on Sept 17, 2024 14:13:11 GMT
Says the pro FSB dictatorship COVID denier liar. Members of the Russian Web Brigades are quite capable of using UK proxies to fool IP checkers after all there's a Russian Embassy in the UK connected to the UK telecoms network. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_web_brigadesAnd they are known for posting bullshit about COVID as regularly as the bullshit racism about the Ukrainians they're known for posting.
How do we know you ain't one Dubs? You sound like one. And your racism against the Ukrainians is well documented.
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Post by Rebirth on Sept 17, 2024 14:54:50 GMT
The constant stream of ad-hominem attacks on Mind Zone is well documented.
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Post by Vinny on Sept 17, 2024 15:07:11 GMT
I've been accused of being a member of the CIA, MI6, GCHQ and even George bloody Soros because I've destroyed Dub's arguments so many times.
Got me wondering, why's Dub getting so worked up about being debunked? Putin does have paid trolls. Before Yevgeny Prigozhin was murdered last year, Prigozhin confirmed the existence of the Internet Research Agency and the troll farms in St Petersburg. Prigozhin had helped establish it in the first place as an arms length agency of the Putin dictatorship.
It's also been confirmed that the Internet Research Agency was involved in the spreading of COVID conspiracy theories.
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