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Post by Dubdrifter on Aug 18, 2024 4:45:22 GMT
The high number of excess deaths will be due to: (1) people dying of Covid (2) people having their organs damaged by Covid and then having complications (3) long waiting lists (4) people ignoring medical conditions because they didn't want to catch Covid in a GP surgery / hospital (5) stress / suicide caused by lockdowns, and financial problems (6) small number of vaccine damaged people Hi Dodgy … we are talking EXCESS deaths here … above the norm. … strange you didn’t mention the protein clotting and strings being formed in people’s bodies since the mRNA vaccine therapies were introduced? … this was first flagged up by German scientists 3 years ago … which stopped the Germans using the Astra Zeneca vaccines. Here are the details clearly showing what has been growing - not just on the venal side … but now detected on the arterial side of increasing numbers of vaccinated people who ended up in the morgue. … you only need to watch the first 5 minutes of this piece … to know a UK enquiry is urgently required over this serious issue. … and ALL mRNA drugs should be immediately withdrawn WORLDWIDE by the WHO. … if they can detach themselves for a nanosecond from the Big Pharma money trough.🤔 Embalmers used to take an hour to flush out the fluids after insertion from the carotid artery … now because of varying degrees of extreme clotting … this process needs up to 2.5 hrs … and several flush point incisions… Clearly explained in the early part of the video … worth a look if you jabbed … and are showing symptoms of clogging. People are going to need specialist drug therapies to dissolve away these clots without causing strokes and embolisms. 😖
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Post by sheepy on Aug 18, 2024 8:48:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2024 9:13:59 GMT
Nealy 14,000 people claiming, and many more didn't bother to claim for their injuries because they knew there would be a brick wall. AstraZeneca are the £200 billion UK company. It wouldn't hurt them to pay out 14,000 x 120,000 would it? It's only £1.68bn then they might sleep at night.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Aug 19, 2024 9:22:12 GMT
Nealy 14,000 people claiming, and many more didn't bother to claim for their injuries because they knew there would be a brick wall. AstraZeneca are the £200 billion UK company. It wouldn't hurt them to pay out 14,000 x 120,000 would it? It's only £1.68bn then they might sleep at night. It’s a total disgrace the way these people are being treated …. and the way these super rich companies have made ££€€$$$billions on arguably fake drugs that delivered essentially no immunity to Covid 19 … even after 5 mRNA jabs that triggered 31 million excess deaths … and rising! This is just the tip of a growing iceberg gradually emerging … with shocking stats. …. Here they are walking away with no liability or responsibility … assisted by a Government that should be representing the welfare of the British Public …. Not Big Pharma deception. A vaccine, rushed into production … promoted by the worst “snake oil salesmanship in the WHO Industry … encouraged by a corrupted MSM … and Institutions motivated by money rather than a true care ethic. There is now a battle going on over suppression of peer-review papers that highlight the growing number of vaccine harm mRNA studies that are beginning to get past Big Pharma/MSM censorship. As we’ve discussed before … the peer-review process has been found to be flawed … and reviewers criticised … some rightly so … but with Big Pharma attacking Dr Robert Malone … one of the key initiators of mRNA vaccine theory … who became a “CRAZY conspiracy theorist” overnight for suddenly having serious concerns over the safety of these vaccines ~ 2 years ago … maybe we need to sit up and take note of new research from scientists free from Big Pharma bullying … people with integrity who want to restore the profession towards a fully analytical approach … that takes note of ALARMING autopsy reports. www.ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPRThis Journal and the scientists that run it, have been attacked for hosting articles that show mRNA vaccines have serious issues. When the Establishment has been corrupted by the money … and is now circling the wagons … and is doubling down on all the deceptions and lies about lasting Covid efficacy … the whistle-blowers need to create other outlets … other Media platforms thru which the TRUTH can be disseminated. That is the poisonous nature of not having a FREE PRESS and corrupted Editors in today’s Western world …. and Governments in the pockets of the Globalists that created this Plandemic.
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Post by dodgydave on Aug 21, 2024 1:22:44 GMT
I did not pat myself it was a statement of fact. The high number of excess deaths may be due to some of the above as well as other factors including vaccine damage which is confirmed as happening although the levels are in dispute. I am of an age when many things could carry me off tomorrow including flu and I have not been jabbed for that either having seen how ill many others have become from the injection. What is clear is 'safe and effective' was basically bollocks as it was sold to the public on the basis that it would stop you getting Covid and stop you passing it onThat is incorrect, the vaccines were to help build up immunity, so that if you got the virus you were likely to have milder symptoms and be less likely to get seriously ill. They literally told you that when you went for the jab. Yes there was a lot of confusion because there was so many people spouting crap, and there was further confusion because words can have different meanings when used in a medical setting (eg "immunity"). Most of the population has access to the interest, if they chose to get their information from some virtue signaling TV presenters yelling "don't kill granny", instead of seeking actual medical advice, then whose fault is it?
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Post by sandypine on Aug 21, 2024 6:50:38 GMT
I did not pat myself it was a statement of fact. The high number of excess deaths may be due to some of the above as well as other factors including vaccine damage which is confirmed as happening although the levels are in dispute. I am of an age when many things could carry me off tomorrow including flu and I have not been jabbed for that either having seen how ill many others have become from the injection. What is clear is 'safe and effective' was basically bollocks as it was sold to the public on the basis that it would stop you getting Covid and stop you passing it onThat is incorrect, the vaccines were to help build up immunity, so that if you got the virus you were likely to have milder symptoms and be less likely to get seriously ill. They literally told you that when you went for the jab. Yes there was a lot of confusion because there was so many people spouting crap, and there was further confusion because words can have different meanings when used in a medical setting (eg "immunity"). Most of the population has access to the interest, if they chose to get their information from some virtue signaling TV presenters yelling "don't kill granny", instead of seeking actual medical advice, then whose fault is it? Now wait a minute TV presenters shouting don't kill granny were allowed a clear field to keep on spouting whereas cool calm voices saying perhaps we need a bit more information were shouted down, and allowed to be shouted down and denigrated, by many in the medical profession. Most people were informed through the magazine morning programmes and headline news on the flagship programmes and they followed and accentuated government line and the coercion to jab jab jab. Your memory is askew. I recall some pretty well informed people, who were also well interviewed people, who were quite happy to demand the isolation of the unvaccinated and the removal of them by force from public life. One morning doctor claimed 100% protection and that was never countered on the programme in which it was stated.
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 21, 2024 8:24:10 GMT
Interesting comprehensive statistical study that points finger at some Administrative clues that triggered 31 million excess deaths during the Pandemic. It confirms that most of the measures taken by those in Authority that were “supposed to increase our chances of survival” …. had PRECISELY THE OPPOSITE EFFECT ….Hence a shocking 31 million EXCESS deaths. Hmmm … Naïve rubbish that assumes had Governments done nothing the excess death toll would not have happened. It would have, it would have been an order of magnitude higher. Had the UK not locked-down when it did there would literally have been bodies piling up in the street, with no one to take them away and dispose of them; leading to secondary casualties from a new wave of disease and infection from the decomposing bodies. All The Best
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 21, 2024 8:26:41 GMT
The wisdom of hindsight . When it happened no one knew what the fuck to do about it. But "doing nothing" wasn't really an option either. Things would have been way, way worse had governments globally chosen to do nothing at all. All The Best
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Post by piglet on Aug 21, 2024 8:55:59 GMT
The truth about covid was politically unacceptable, and the truth was, get it, and you will get over it, most of you, Sweden took that attitude had had the lowest deaths. When covid hit i knew that was the truth and it was scary, the government tried to put a plaster over it.
The fear lasted about ten seconds, i resigned myself to whatever, accepted it, struggling against whatever hardship multiplies your suffering.
If government had the same, the populace would have followed suit. That should have come first, as well as rolling out the vaccine. Common sense will never be part of government, over thinking, party politics, pseudo intellectuals talking sh ite.
And the Conservatives bankrupted the country as well. Talk about complete inadequacy. The truth about pox is that if you get it you will live.....or die. You cant escape. In my case i was lucky, not a sniffle, even when covid isnt around, i cant remember the last cold or flue. Someone is going to go ape about the deaths, for gods sake grow up, grow a pair.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 21, 2024 10:12:15 GMT
The wisdom of hindsight . When it happened no one knew what the fuck to do about it. But "doing nothing" wasn't really an option either. Things would have been way, way worse had governments globally chosen to do nothing at all. All The Best I’m not sure what you point is here . Did the government do nothing ?
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Post by dodgydave on Aug 21, 2024 13:17:51 GMT
The truth about covid was politically unacceptable, and the truth was, get it, and you will get over it, most of you, Sweden took that attitude had had the lowest deaths. When covid hit i knew that was the truth and it was scary, the government tried to put a plaster over it. The fear lasted about ten seconds, i resigned myself to whatever, accepted it, struggling against whatever hardship multiplies your suffering. If government had the same, the populace would have followed suit. That should have come first, as well as rolling out the vaccine. Common sense will never be part of government, over thinking, party politics, pseudo intellectuals talking sh ite. And the Conservatives bankrupted the country as well. Talk about complete inadequacy. The truth about pox is that if you get it you will live.....or die. You cant escape. In my case i was lucky, not a sniffle, even when covid isnt around, i cant remember the last cold or flue. Someone is going to go ape about the deaths, for gods sake grow up, grow a pair. Stupid comparisons are... stupid. If you want to talk about Sweden then why not New Zealand... where deaths were even lower lol. The UK has some of the biggest, and highest density cities in the world, which means viruses spread like wildfire. Instead of 200,000 deaths we would have had millions, which brave old you might have found acceptable, but for most normal people that cost would have been too high. My missus worked in ICU throughout Covid, so I know your talk about it being nothing to worry about is simply bollocks. Would you be displaying this brave attitude if you have buried relatives that had died from Covid?
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Post by sandypine on Aug 21, 2024 13:31:32 GMT
The truth about covid was politically unacceptable, and the truth was, get it, and you will get over it, most of you, Sweden took that attitude had had the lowest deaths. When covid hit i knew that was the truth and it was scary, the government tried to put a plaster over it. The fear lasted about ten seconds, i resigned myself to whatever, accepted it, struggling against whatever hardship multiplies your suffering. If government had the same, the populace would have followed suit. That should have come first, as well as rolling out the vaccine. Common sense will never be part of government, over thinking, party politics, pseudo intellectuals talking sh ite. And the Conservatives bankrupted the country as well. Talk about complete inadequacy. The truth about pox is that if you get it you will live.....or die. You cant escape. In my case i was lucky, not a sniffle, even when covid isnt around, i cant remember the last cold or flue. Someone is going to go ape about the deaths, for gods sake grow up, grow a pair. I recall in the first week or so they said they were going for herd immunity and trying to isolate vulnerable groups.
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 21, 2024 17:53:12 GMT
The truth about covid was politically unacceptable, and the truth was, get it, and you will get over it, most of you, Sweden took that attitude had had the lowest deaths. That's because average "health levels" are much higher in Sweden than in the UK, and Sweden has a slightly lower average age, Sweden also has more immediate access to healthcare as well. Summary: All meaning that comparing the UK to Sweden is like comparing Apples to Hammers. All The Best
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Post by Vinny on Aug 21, 2024 17:55:47 GMT
New Zealand had the lowest COVID death toll, not Sweden.
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 22, 2024 7:07:51 GMT
New Zealand had the lowest COVID death toll, not Sweden. New Zealand basically shut the whole country down - and they did it very early on before any cases had occurred. The trouble with that ís firstly that the economy takes a big hit and secondly that, at some point, you have to open up the borders or the country effectively becomes a prison. And when you eventually open the borders you have a country that has no immunity (other than from vaccines). So you've just kept a few people alive for a bit longer. Like lockdown it simply delays the deaths of mainly old people. It's certainly one way of doing it but most countries didn't have that option because by the time they heard about the virus it was already in the country and spreading. So it would have achieved nothing. The Swedish approach was to to have no formal lockdowns but to give people the information they needed to try to avoid catching it - so vulnerable people could have voluntarily isolated and people could avoid large gatherings. It seemed to work quite well. In fact that was the approach that Boris favoured - herd immunity. What changed everything was Neil Ferguson's useless model (based on flu) that predicted hundreds of thousands of deaths and the prospect of the NHS being overwhelmed. So Boris had little alternative but to follow "the science". Not for the first time the scientists were wrong. All that was achieved was to keep a few old/vulnerable people alive a bit longer at the expense of what we are now seeing - many excess deaths from factors other than Covid. The cost of the Lockdowns was huge (furlough, economic damage etc) and it completely blew the NICE guidelines which lay down a maximum cost for every extra year of life a "treatment" saves.
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