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Post by Bentley on Aug 18, 2024 12:54:45 GMT
Quote ..see video on this thread “We can cause riots and no one can stop us but today we’re going to be peaceful boys , there’s no point to smash them today but tomorrow, I’ll tell you boys , if we don’t get justice those motherfuckers are going to get it .” The reality is that the authorities knew that the Muslims were going to riot the next day if they didn’t get what they wanted . So you are now saying that the police can see into the future, or have crystal balls ? "The authorities KNEW that the Muslims were going to riot the next day" - Is that correct Are you really that stupid to think that a mob that threatened to riot the next day unless they got what they wanted would not riot the next day unless they got what they wanted ? |
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Post by wapentake on Aug 18, 2024 12:57:19 GMT
And for the benefit of the ill informed. . and is the correct way to subdue or neutralise any potential threat to kick someon in the head, or to stamp on someones head - THE ANSWER IS NO, its assault, and I bet you any money that as much as it may annoy some people, that police officer will be charged, and will probably lose his job. Having just seen a tasered man stab a police officer in the face you ask that? You are as bad as TTL,here is another man tasered multiple times tries to go for an officer and eventually jumps off a bridge there are other videos you are clueless and a taser an onlybe activated a finite number of times and be effective. From the outset there was clear evidence that a mob threatened riot yet you and others were still in denial. Double standards doesn’t do it justice you have more get out clauses than a rogue insurance company failing to pay out. |
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Post by witchfinder on Aug 18, 2024 15:30:13 GMT
...The riots were against migrant hotels in the main apart from the first night at Southport, there were other isolated incidents but illegal migrant hotels were the main focus. I also put into perspective why random killing and random knife attacks seems to arise almost invariably from Islamic sources, any suggestions as to why that is the case, would it have anything to do with what Islam says or is it just accidental? It is a question worth asking. If hatred of a group is being encouraged then that is not right and Islam encourages hatred that is as clear as the nose on your face. Ah well, according to fiddles Islamism is all down to the Israelis breeding hatred. The fact that Islamism exists everywhere that Islam does, even where there are no Israelis, seems to have gone straight over his head. I suspect that fiddles is antisemitic. You are mixing up two separate issues here, the Palestinian cause, which is a Just cause, is about a homeland for an ethnic group ( Palestinians ), and Palestinians are mostly Muslim, but not exclusively Muslim. Israel is a Jewish Homeland, and the worlds Jews have every right to a homeland, but then on the other hand, so do the Palestinian people. If the worlds great powers in the late 1940s could have been bothered to do the right thing, including the United Kingdom, and divided the entire region fairly between the Israeli's and the Palestinians, creating two states, then the 70+ year long conflict would never have happened, and the world would have been a safer, better and more stable place. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 18, 2024 15:41:01 GMT
How can anyone who is laid faced down on the ground with a Taser aimed at him, grab a police gun ? ... and is the correct way to subdue or neutralise any potential threat to kick someon in the head, or to stamp on someones head - THE ANSWER IS NO, its assault, and I bet you any money that as much as it may annoy some people, that police officer will be charged, and will probably lose his job. Having just seen a tasered man stab a police officer in the face you ask that? You are as bad as TTL,here is another man tasered multiple times tries to go for an officer and eventually jumps off a bridge there are other videos you are clueless and a taser an onlybe activated a finite number of times and be effective. From the outset there was clear evidence that a mob threatened riot yet you and others were still in denial. Double standards doesn’t do it justice you have more get out clauses than a rogue insurance company failing to pay out. This ^. The same lefties that would hide behind the officer to protect themselves are trying every way to throw him under a bus when it suits them . |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 18, 2024 16:15:23 GMT
Ah well, according to fiddles Islamism is all down to the Israelis breeding hatred. The fact that Islamism exists everywhere that Islam does, even where there are no Israelis, seems to have gone straight over his head. I suspect that fiddles is antisemitic. You are mixing up two separate issues here, the Palestinian cause, which is a Just cause, is about a homeland for an ethnic group ( Palestinians ), and Palestinians are mostly Muslim, but not exclusively Muslim. Israel is a Jewish Homeland, and the worlds Jews have every right to a homeland, but then on the other hand, so do the Palestinian people. If the worlds great powers in the late 1940s could have been bothered to do the right thing, including the United Kingdom, and divided the entire region fairly between the Israeli's and the Palestinians, creating two states, then the 70+ year long conflict would never have happened, and the world would have been a safer, better and more stable place. If only the Palestinians hadn't so steadfastly resisted the two state solution and their leadership weren't dedicated to the total destruction of Israel. But you keep blaming Israel. |
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Post by wapentake on Aug 18, 2024 16:26:27 GMT
Don’t know if anybody else has posted this but I find this man’s intervention incredible and not in a good way,it’s everybody else’s fault but his,and oh we really need digital ID cards but to control who? Answers on a postcard to “I didn’t get you last time but this time I will”. link |
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Post by witchfinder on Aug 18, 2024 17:18:42 GMT
You are mixing up two separate issues here, the Palestinian cause, which is a Just cause, is about a homeland for an ethnic group ( Palestinians ), and Palestinians are mostly Muslim, but not exclusively Muslim. Israel is a Jewish Homeland, and the worlds Jews have every right to a homeland, but then on the other hand, so do the Palestinian people. If the worlds great powers in the late 1940s could have been bothered to do the right thing, including the United Kingdom, and divided the entire region fairly between the Israeli's and the Palestinians, creating two states, then the 70+ year long conflict would never have happened, and the world would have been a safer, better and more stable place. If only the Palestinians hadn't so steadfastly resisted the two state solution and their leadership weren't dedicated to the total destruction of Israel. But you keep blaming Israel. For many, many years the Palestinian leadership was moderate, and the administrations of people like Yasser Arafat never wanted anything other than a free Palestine. The PLO recognised Israels sovereignty and its right to exist, they also accepted that Palestine is The West Bank and Gaza Strip, plus subject to negotiations, other stolen / occupied Palestinian territory including East Jerusalem. How do you take seriously a state which pretends that it is interested in a two state solution involving the two main Palestinian areas, when they ( The Israeli's ) continue to steal land by force, gradually diminishing Palestinian lands. ? The Israelis walled in the Palestinian people, built a fence around the Gaza Strip and electrified it, Palestinian people could not move from The West Bank to Gaza, they couldnt go anywhere unless they had an Israeli Work Permitt, what kind of way is that to treat people. ? If the Israeli's were even remotely serious about a lasting solution, they would put an immediate halt to settlers stealing more land, and building settlements on land that is not theirs. |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 18, 2024 17:27:34 GMT
Ah well, according to fiddles Islamism is all down to the Israelis breeding hatred. The fact that Islamism exists everywhere that Islam does, even where there are no Israelis, seems to have gone straight over his head. I suspect that fiddles is antisemitic. You are mixing up two separate issues here, the Palestinian cause, which is a Just cause, is about a homeland for an ethnic group ( Palestinians ), and Palestinians are mostly Muslim, but not exclusively Muslim. Israel is a Jewish Homeland, and the worlds Jews have every right to a homeland, but then on the other hand, so do the Palestinian people. If the worlds great powers in the late 1940s could have been bothered to do the right thing, including the United Kingdom, and divided the entire region fairly between the Israeli's and the Palestinians, creating two states, then the 70+ year long conflict would never have happened, and the world would have been a safer, better and more stable place.
Eh? - they did create two states but the Palestinians and surrounding Arab nations rejected the partition. |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 18, 2024 17:29:48 GMT
If only the Palestinians hadn't so steadfastly resisted the two state solution and their leadership weren't dedicated to the total destruction of Israel. But you keep blaming Israel. For many, many years the Palestinian leadership was moderate, and the administrations of people like Yasser Arafat never wanted anything other than a free Palestine. The PLO recognised Israels sovereignty and its right to exist, they also accepted that Palestine is The West Bank and Gaza Strip, plus subject to negotiations, other stolen / occupied Palestinian territory including East Jerusalem. How do you take seriously a state which pretends that it is interested in a two state solution involving the two main Palestinian areas, when they ( The Israeli's ) continue to steal land by force, gradually diminishing Palestinian lands. ? The Israelis walled in the Palestinian people, built a fence around the Gaza Strip and electrified it, Palestinian people could not move from The West Bank to Gaza, they couldnt go anywhere unless they had an Israeli Work Permitt, what kind of way is that to treat people. ? If the Israeli's were even remotely serious about a lasting solution, they would put an immediate halt to settlers stealing more land, and building settlements on land that is not theirs. Twaddle - Yasser Arafat rejected a Palestinian State based on the 1967 borders. If the Palestinians keep rejecting the offer of their own State then that is up to them - you cannot blame someone else. |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 18, 2024 17:51:06 GMT
Ah well, according to fiddles Islamism is all down to the Israelis breeding hatred. The fact that Islamism exists everywhere that Islam does, even where there are no Israelis, seems to have gone straight over his head. I suspect that fiddles is antisemitic. You are mixing up two separate issues here, the Palestinian cause, which is a Just cause, is about a homeland for an ethnic group ( Palestinians ), and Palestinians are mostly Muslim, but not exclusively Muslim. Israel is a Jewish Homeland, and the worlds Jews have every right to a homeland, but then on the other hand, so do the Palestinian people. If the worlds great powers in the late 1940s could have been bothered to do the right thing, including the United Kingdom, and divided the entire region fairly between the Israeli's and the Palestinians, creating two states, then the 70+ year long conflict would never have happened, and the world would have been a safer, better and more stable place. Everyone had a homeland in the late 1940s, it was the Arab nations that could not accept the creation of Israel and what does from the river to the sea Palestine will be free actually mean |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 18, 2024 18:37:17 GMT
For many, many years the Palestinian leadership was moderate, and the administrations of people like Yasser Arafat never wanted anything other than a free Palestine. The PLO recognised Israels sovereignty and its right to exist, they also accepted that Palestine is The West Bank and Gaza Strip, plus subject to negotiations, other stolen / occupied Palestinian territory including East Jerusalem. How do you take seriously a state which pretends that it is interested in a two state solution involving the two main Palestinian areas, when they ( The Israeli's ) continue to steal land by force, gradually diminishing Palestinian lands. ? The Israelis walled in the Palestinian people, built a fence around the Gaza Strip and electrified it, Palestinian people could not move from The West Bank to Gaza, they couldnt go anywhere unless they had an Israeli Work Permitt, what kind of way is that to treat people. ? If the Israeli's were even remotely serious about a lasting solution, they would put an immediate halt to settlers stealing more land, and building settlements on land that is not theirs... "Stolen land" indeed. You need to learn some history: The Jews lived in the region since 1000BC. They were originally ejected by the Romans in the first century AD and then again by the Arabs in the seventh century. They were invited back by Saladin in the twelfth century, although some Jews remained in the area throughout, but it was always their land. There is no theft. It's a repossession of that which was always theirs. |
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Post by witchfinder on Aug 18, 2024 22:05:19 GMT
For many, many years the Palestinian leadership was moderate, and the administrations of people like Yasser Arafat never wanted anything other than a free Palestine. The PLO recognised Israels sovereignty and its right to exist, they also accepted that Palestine is The West Bank and Gaza Strip, plus subject to negotiations, other stolen / occupied Palestinian territory including East Jerusalem. How do you take seriously a state which pretends that it is interested in a two state solution involving the two main Palestinian areas, when they ( The Israeli's ) continue to steal land by force, gradually diminishing Palestinian lands. ? The Israelis walled in the Palestinian people, built a fence around the Gaza Strip and electrified it, Palestinian people could not move from The West Bank to Gaza, they couldnt go anywhere unless they had an Israeli Work Permitt, what kind of way is that to treat people. ? If the Israeli's were even remotely serious about a lasting solution, they would put an immediate halt to settlers stealing more land, and building settlements on land that is not theirs... "Stolen land" indeed. You need to learn some history: The Jews lived in the region since 1000BC. They were originally ejected by the Romans in the first century AD and then again by the Arabs in the seventh century. They were invited back by Saladin in the twelfth century, although some Jews remained in the area throughout, but it was always their land. There is no theft. It's a repossession of that which was always theirs. Jewish people have not inhabited those lands for many hundreds of years, and so if you vaccated lands centuries ago, how do you claim that they are rightfully theirs. ? Its like claiming that England belongs to France because of the Norman Conquest, your reasoning is nonsense. |
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 18, 2024 23:23:08 GMT
We now know more details ( but not all the details ) of what actually caused the Manchester Airport incident. It seems that the incident on the aircraft whilst inflight was sparked after a male passenger racially abused the mother of the two men whom the police went to arrest in the airport, clearly the two men were angered at someone insulting their mother ( as anyone would be ). If no attempt has been made to question the person who "racially abused" the mother of the arrested men, then why not ?, its a key question. The man who was assaulted by a police officer was not only laid faced down on the ground, after having been tasered, but he also had a taser held pointing at him by a police officer. The excuse that the officers were worried that he may "grab their gun" is clearly a complete load of total nonsense. I do not condone assaulting a police officer, but if these men were defending their mother from insults or abuse, then I understand their anger, especially if no attempt has been made to question the man who racially abused the mother. More of your usual racist bullshit fiddles. It's blatant isn't it. He doesn't condone assaulting a police office but but but... they were angry and attacked the officers as though the police abused their mother, and he can understand why they needed to break a female officer's nose in the process of his allegation that there was no attempt to question the man who allegedly abused their mother. What a crock of shit. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 19, 2024 7:38:02 GMT
More of your usual racist bullshit fiddles. It's blatant isn't it. He doesn't condone assaulting a police office but but but... they were angry and attacked the officers as though the police abused their mother, and he can understand why they needed to break a female officer's nose in the process of his allegation that there was no attempt to question the man who allegedly abused their mother. What a crock of shit. Yep: Brown people good, white people bad.
Muslims good, Jews bad.
The hypocrisy of the racist left.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 19, 2024 12:59:17 GMT
It's blatant isn't it. He doesn't condone assaulting a police office but but but... they were angry and attacked the officers as though the police abused their mother, and he can understand why they needed to break a female officer's nose in the process of his allegation that there was no attempt to question the man who allegedly abused their mother. What a crock of shit. Yep: Brown people good, white people bad.
Muslims good, Jews bad.
The hypocrisy of the racist left.
Imo White lefties do not give a fuck about Brown people or Muslims , they just hate them less that white people and Jews. They just use them for a political objective. Malcolm X the Black activist hated white lefties . He worked them out . |
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