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Post by Pacifico on Aug 13, 2024 6:49:45 GMT
Stop pretending to be fucking thick; if you persist I'll just assume you are, and are this not worthy of my time. You saw the news as well as I. All The Best So the violent Muslim mobs we saw on the street are representative of all muslims? And the rampant anti-semitism we see every saturday in the pro-palestinian marches are representative of all left-wing supporters? Are you sure?
'If you don't agree with the aims of a mob don't stand with them - simples.'
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 13, 2024 7:00:43 GMT
Stop pretending to be fucking thick; if you persist I'll just assume you are, and are this not worthy of my time. You saw the news as well as I. All The Best So the violent Muslim mobs we saw on the street are representative of all muslims? And the rampant anti-semitism we see every saturday in the pro-palestinian marches are representative of all left-wing supporters? Are you sure?
'If you don't agree with the aims of a mob don't stand with them - simples.'
He self-righteously waddled into that one. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 13, 2024 7:04:55 GMT
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 13, 2024 8:18:21 GMT
Don’t forget folks , if you are in the crowd with protestors behaving badly then you are behaving badly . That includes. ‘Pro Palestinians, BLM , JSO, Muslims, Roma and assorted lefties . Is there anything wrong with being Pro Palestinian? All The Best Only if you decide to march chanting antisemitic racial hatred, which the police completely ignore, then yes there is something wrong with being Pro Palestinian. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 13, 2024 9:02:45 GMT
Don’t forget folks , if you are in the crowd with protestors behaving badly then you are behaving badly . That includes. ‘Pro Palestinians, BLM , JSO, Muslims, Roma and assorted lefties . Is there anything wrong with being Pro Palestinian? All The Best That seems to have gone over your head . Not very clever are you ? |
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Post by see2 on Aug 13, 2024 10:59:23 GMT
Don’t forget folks , if you are in the crowd with protestors behaving badly then you are behaving badly . That includes. ‘Pro Palestinians, BLM , JSO, Muslims, Roma and assorted lefties . Along with various Righties. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 13, 2024 11:08:50 GMT
Don’t forget folks , if you are in the crowd with protestors behaving badly then you are behaving badly . That includes. ‘Pro Palestinians, BLM , JSO, Muslims, Roma and assorted lefties . Along with various Righties. If there was a law against the overuse of a word you'd be locked up ... Righties. |
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Post by see2 on Aug 13, 2024 11:20:04 GMT
Along with various Righties. If there was a law against the overuse of a word you'd be locked up ... Righties. The references to lefties for outstrips the term Righties. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 13, 2024 11:23:23 GMT
If there was a law against the overuse of a word you'd be locked up ... Righties. The references to lefties for outstrips the term Righties. you overuse it on almost every thread and post regardless of the subject matter. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 13, 2024 13:05:52 GMT
Don’t forget folks , if you are in the crowd with protestors behaving badly then you are behaving badly . That includes. ‘Pro Palestinians, BLM , JSO, Muslims, Roma and assorted lefties . Along with various Righties. Another one who missed the point ^ |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 13, 2024 13:09:48 GMT
Stop pretending to be fucking thick; if you persist I'll just assume you are, and are this not worthy of my time. You saw the news as well as I. All The Best So the violent Muslim mobs we saw on the street are representative of all muslims? And the rampant anti-semitism we see every saturday in the pro-palestinian marches are representative of all left-wing supporters? Are you sure?
'If you don't agree with the aims of a mob don't stand with them - simples.'
I have never stated than any sub-set of a demographic group represent ALL of that larger demographic group - that is the weak semantics used by people like you to try and defend the indefensible. I was, before this debate point, sure that you were intelligent enough to work out what "side by side" and "supporting" actually meant; now, I am not so sure. Were ALL Muslims stood on the streets with the violent Muslim mobs? No, they were not. There's a right-wing press narrative, in part fuelled by the over-reaching authoritarianism of Suella Braverman when she was HS, that all Pro-Palestinian marches are Anti-Semitic. They are not, many Jews, including two I know, routinely march in favour of peace in Gaza and Palestine, and an end to the illegal occupation of Palestinian lands by Israel. However, any who stand side-by-side with those who are Anti-Semitic, without challenging and condemning them, are - tacitly at least - supporting them. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 13, 2024 13:17:13 GMT
Is there anything wrong with being Pro Palestinian? All The Best , which the police completely ignore, then yes there is something wrong with being Pro Palestinian. I agree. Those chanting Antisemitic Racial Hatred should be arrested and charged as appropriate. The sticking point here is what defines "Antisemitic Racial Hatred". Calling for the destruction of Israel and Jews? Certainly. Calling for Israel to ceasefire in killing Gazan Non-Combatants? No. Calling for Israel to end the illegal settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories? Again, no. Asking, and expecting, Israel to abide by international treaties it willingly acceded to is not Antisemitic in any way. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 13, 2024 13:18:35 GMT
So the violent Muslim mobs we saw on the street are representative of all muslims? And the rampant anti-semitism we see every saturday in the pro-palestinian marches are representative of all left-wing supporters? Are you sure?
'If you don't agree with the aims of a mob don't stand with them - simples.'
He self-righteously waddled into that one. Only if I, like you, think only in absolutes, and lack the intellectual ability to work with nuance. All The Best |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 13, 2024 14:50:57 GMT
He self-righteously waddled into that one. Only if I, like you, think only in absolutes, and lack the intellectual ability to work with nuance. All The Best In answer to the riots it seems nuance is nowhere to be seen and in terms of the anti racist demonstrators expecting nuance is a forlorn hope so we can only assume the intellectual ability of the whole. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 13, 2024 15:11:41 GMT
Only if I, like you, think only in absolutes, and lack the intellectual ability to work with nuance. All The Best In answer to the riots it seems nuance is nowhere to be seen and in terms of the anti racist demonstrators expecting nuance is a forlorn hope so we can only assume the intellectual ability of the whole. I would say that for any demonstration of any kind, that descends to rioting, there are four distinct groups. 1) Actual Rioters: engaged in rioting, attacking police or other people, looting premises, damaging shops and cars etc. 2) Belligerent Demonstrators: not directly engaged in rioting, but cheering them on, shouting abuse at police or counter demonstrators etc, they may become active in seeking to protect actual rioters from Police Action. 3) Passive Demonstrators: not engaged in rioting, not encouraging the rioters, not being abusive to police or passers-by, but may be shouting whatever slogan it is that their demonstration uses. 4) Passers-by: those people no engaging with the demonstration in anyway, but just passing through the area. I think it reasonable that 99% of people who are not Emergency Services or Press at any demonstration will fall into one of those 4 groups. Group 1 needs arresting and, IMO, some level of Prison Time. Group 2 needs arresting and, IMO, some form of fine / warning / suspended sentence prison time - depending on the severity of their actions. Group 3 needs protecting, and be permitted to go about their legal demonstration. Group 4 needs protecting and permitted to go about their peaceful business. Do you disagree? If so, why? All The Best |
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