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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 7, 2024 9:05:38 GMT
Were you in charge of a business would you continue to use a system that had only a 25% success rate? Depends - is there a system that works better?. Sometimes you have to use what is to hand - even if it is not perfect. How do we know there is no such "better system" when we keep adhering to a system that even the police admits fails more than two times more often than it succeeds? Surely we should be having Trial Schemes in some areas to see if they work better? The if all the evidence shows S&S is the better option then go for it. But if you believe the only tool in your toolbox is a hammer you'll view every problem as a nail. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 7, 2024 9:16:13 GMT
Go on then. PROVE that anything I said was FACTUALLY wrong. You can't, you know you can't, I know you can't. So you'll attempt ridicule to deflect from your inadequacies. All The Best I’m inadequate? Grow up people on here are all expressing different theories as to why what is happening is happening that is why it’s a political forum and you are threatening to report them to the authorities. You have to ridicule it because it is literally ridiculous, OK, let me get this straight, hopefully it sinks in (though I have my doubts). The ONLY time I will report a post is if it, IMO, reaches the threshold for being Illegal. At that point, regardless of the bullshit excuse given by a member of the Mod Team here, it is the Moderator's Duty to a) take action against that post, and b) report that post. How do I know that? I have been a Moderator at 3 forums, and in all 3 cases I was made aware, both by the Forum Owner and the Host Service T&Cs, that part of my duties was to keep the Forum "legal". I have ONLY reported two posts, and only to the Mod team here (though I did highlight the relevant part of the Pro Board T&Cs (as it was clear the Mods were turning a blind-eye to them)), in both cases action was taken; because in both cases the posts I reported were illegal. Here's a hint: don't want to be reported for breaking the law? The don't break the law Simples! --------------- It is the DUTY of every genuine Patriot to report Criminality where they see it; it is the ONLY way to stop this country descending into a lawless 3rd world hell-hole some of you think immigration will cause. Of course, the very reason these Riots have kicked off is because those engaged in Criminal Activity have been allowed to get away with it on Social Media platforms without facing any consequences. ---------------------- But I take it this diversion is a tacit admission you can't prove any of what I said about St George to be wrong. All The Best |
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Post by wapentake on Aug 7, 2024 9:26:36 GMT
I’m inadequate? Grow up people on here are all expressing different theories as to why what is happening is happening that is why it’s a political forum and you are threatening to report them to the authorities. You have to ridicule it because it is literally ridiculous, OK, let me get this straight, hopefully it sinks in (though I have my doubts). The ONLY time I will report a post is if it, IMO, reaches the threshold for being Illegal. At that point, regardless of the bullshit excuse given by a member of the Mod Team here, it is the Moderator's Duty to a) take action against that post, and b) report that post. How do I know that? I have been a Moderator at 3 forums, and in all 3 cases I was made aware, both by the Forum Owner and the Host Service T&Cs, that part of my duties was to keep the Forum "legal". I have ONLY reported two posts, and only to the Mod team here (though I did highlight the relevant part of the Pro Board T&Cs (as it was clear the Mods were turning a blind-eye to them)), in both cases action was taken; because in both cases the posts I reported were illegal. Here's a hint: don't want to be reported for breaking the law? The don't break the law Simples! --------------- It is the DUTY of every genuine Patriot to report Criminality where they see it; it is the ONLY way to stop this country descending into a lawless 3rd world hell-hole some of you think immigration will cause. Of course, the very reason these Riots have kicked off is because those engaged in Criminal Activity have been allowed to get away with it on Social Media platforms without facing any consequences. ---------------------- But I take it this diversion is a tacit admission you can't prove any of what I said about St George to be wrong. All The Best The diversion is that you thought nobody knew about St George.. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 7, 2024 9:29:07 GMT
OK, let me get this straight, hopefully it sinks in (though I have my doubts). The ONLY time I will report a post is if it, IMO, reaches the threshold for being Illegal. At that point, regardless of the bullshit excuse given by a member of the Mod Team here, it is the Moderator's Duty to a) take action against that post, and b) report that post. How do I know that? I have been a Moderator at 3 forums, and in all 3 cases I was made aware, both by the Forum Owner and the Host Service T&Cs, that part of my duties was to keep the Forum "legal". I have ONLY reported two posts, and only to the Mod team here (though I did highlight the relevant part of the Pro Board T&Cs (as it was clear the Mods were turning a blind-eye to them)), in both cases action was taken; because in both cases the posts I reported were illegal. Here's a hint: don't want to be reported for breaking the law? The don't break the law Simples! --------------- It is the DUTY of every genuine Patriot to report Criminality where they see it; it is the ONLY way to stop this country descending into a lawless 3rd world hell-hole some of you think immigration will cause. Of course, the very reason these Riots have kicked off is because those engaged in Criminal Activity have been allowed to get away with it on Social Media platforms without facing any consequences. ---------------------- But I take it this diversion is a tacit admission you can't prove any of what I said about St George to be wrong. All The Best The diversion is that you thought nobody knew about St George.. Anyone who thinks he is even remotely connected to Britain knows absolutely fuck-all about him. All The Best |
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 7, 2024 9:34:13 GMT
Labour's/left identity politic is explicable to what we're seeing today in Britain. This goes back to BLM and the riots in 2011. Tell me, why would Muslim's based on misinformation that the far-right were going to match through a village turn up, and not only lacerate one pub patron's liver for his bothers, but turn up waving these flags?   “While defending Islam in the UK right now is understandable, there’s a danger that the current violence gets framed as a battle between Islam and the West being fought on the streets of Britain, which is radicalising and an invitation to wider violence. It’s the last thing we need.” www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/06/palestine-flag-symbol-muslim-kinship-riots/ |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 7, 2024 9:44:24 GMT
Labour's/left identity politic is explicable to what we're seeing today in Britain. This goes back to BLM and the riots in 2011. Tell me, why would Muslim's based on misinformation that the far-right were going to match through a village turn up, and not only lacerate one pub patron's liver for his bothers, but turn up waving these flags? “While defending Islam in the UK right now is understandable, there’s a danger that the current violence gets framed as a battle between Islam and the West being fought on the streets of Britain, which is radicalising and an invitation to wider violence. It’s the last thing we need.” www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/06/palestine-flag-symbol-muslim-kinship-riots/The fact they are Muslim is irrelevant - but before you jump to a conclusion read-on. I know White people who go to Pro-Palestine rallies, I know a girl who goes because while both her parents were born and raised in Britain her maternal grandmother is Palestinian. As to why they turned up to where the Far Right was going to march, well that is the point of Counter Demonstrations. If I knew the Far Right was demonstrating in my local town I'd go to counter demonstrate, in the same way I'd go to counter demonstrate if some group advocating violence against Whites was demonstrating. However, I firmly believe that the Police should have the power to detain anyone turning up to a demonstration wearing a balaclava or other item designed to hide their identity. I firmly believe in Peaceful Protest; I suggest those turning up with some form of disguise have not intention of protesting peacefully. Furthermore, anyone and everyone who commits any type of crime during a protest should face some form of punishment, those who commit violent crimes and destructive crimes against property should face prison time. Those who commit violence against Emergency Service Workers should face serious prison time. I have long argued that the Criminal Justice system in this country is way too soft - it is so because it is serially underfunded, meaning Courts and Prisons are forced to do the bare minimum, because there aren't the resources to do more. All The Best |
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 7, 2024 9:50:06 GMT
Labour's/left identity politic is explicable to what we're seeing today in Britain. This goes back to BLM and the riots in 2011. Tell me, why would Muslim's based on misinformation that the far-right were going to match through a village turn up, and not only lacerate one pub patron's liver for his bothers, but turn up waving these flags? “While defending Islam in the UK right now is understandable, there’s a danger that the current violence gets framed as a battle between Islam and the West being fought on the streets of Britain, which is radicalising and an invitation to wider violence. It’s the last thing we need.” www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/06/palestine-flag-symbol-muslim-kinship-riots/The fact they are Muslim is irrelevant - but before you jump to a conclusion read-on. I know White people who go to Pro-Palestine rallies, I know a girl who goes because while both her parents were born and raised in Britain her maternal grandmother is Palestinian. As to why they turned up to where the Far Right was going to march, well that is the point of Counter Demonstrations. If I knew the Far Right was demonstrating in my local town I'd go to counter demonstrate, in the same way I'd go to counter demonstrate if some group advocating violence against Whites was demonstrating. However, I firmly believe that the Police should have the power to detain anyone turning up to a demonstration wearing a balaclava or other item designed to hide their identity. I firmly believe in Peaceful Protest; I suggest those turning up with some form of disguise have not intention of protesting peacefully. Furthermore, anyone and everyone who commits any type of crime during a protest should face some form of punishment, those who commit violent crimes and destructive crimes against property should face prison time. Those who commit violence against Emergency Service Workers should face serious prison time. I have long argued that the Criminal Justice system in this country is way too soft - it is so because it is serially underfunded, meaning Courts and Prisons are forced to do the bare minimum, because there aren't the resources to do more.All The Best And other people have long argued that Muslims tend to get a lot of leeway before the eyes of the law. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 7, 2024 9:56:56 GMT
The fact they are Muslim is irrelevant - but before you jump to a conclusion read-on. I know White people who go to Pro-Palestine rallies, I know a girl who goes because while both her parents were born and raised in Britain her maternal grandmother is Palestinian. As to why they turned up to where the Far Right was going to march, well that is the point of Counter Demonstrations. If I knew the Far Right was demonstrating in my local town I'd go to counter demonstrate, in the same way I'd go to counter demonstrate if some group advocating violence against Whites was demonstrating. However, I firmly believe that the Police should have the power to detain anyone turning up to a demonstration wearing a balaclava or other item designed to hide their identity. I firmly believe in Peaceful Protest; I suggest those turning up with some form of disguise have not intention of protesting peacefully. Furthermore, anyone and everyone who commits any type of crime during a protest should face some form of punishment, those who commit violent crimes and destructive crimes against property should face prison time. Those who commit violence against Emergency Service Workers should face serious prison time. I have long argued that the Criminal Justice system in this country is way too soft - it is so because it is serially underfunded, meaning Courts and Prisons are forced to do the bare minimum, because there aren't the resources to do more.All The Best And other people have long argued that Muslims tend to get a lot of leeway before the eyes of the law. I argue based from a position of research and referencing statistics. Do the people whop just want "blame the muzzies" do the same? Apart from the institutional blindness to the Rotherham Grooming Gangs are there any other examples of this alleged "leeway"? As a counter argument, how many City Spivs were arrested last year for Class A drug use? I know someone in that industry, over half of them are coked out of their heads on a daily basis; but because they work in The City, wear sharp suits, and are primarily white hardly any arrests are ever made. Can't go upsetting The Square Mile now, can we? All The Best |
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Post by Orac on Aug 7, 2024 10:18:54 GMT
There have been several miss-steps recently. The core problem is that police are 'consulting' with 'communities' that amount to foreign based, or interested, criminal organisations.
The one group they wont take into consideration is the vast bulk of the UK public
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Post by dodgydave on Aug 7, 2024 10:21:05 GMT
The "two-tier" thing is not so much whether people are arrested and charged, it is the perception that people are acting differently because they are afraid of being labelled racist.
A black man has attacked multiple white people, resulting in the deaths of three white children and not one politician / media organisation / police commander has the balls to call it a racist attack. This is "two-tier" because plenty of them rushed in to cry racism when the white police officer kicked the head of an Asian man at Manchester Airport.
Don't forget, just down the road from Southport in Manchester, a person of colour was allowed to blow up kids because a security guard didn't want to look racist.
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 7, 2024 10:27:06 GMT
Depends - is there a system that works better?. Sometimes you have to use what is to hand - even if it is not perfect. How do we know there is no such "better system" when we keep adhering to a system that even the police admits fails more than two times more often than it succeeds?Surely we should be having Trial Schemes in some areas to see if they work better? The if all the evidence shows S&S is the better option then go for it. But it doesn't work like that - in an ideal world S&S would fail in every case - it acts as a deterrent to carrying a weapon in public. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 7, 2024 10:34:57 GMT
How do we know there is no such "better system" when we keep adhering to a system that even the police admits fails more than two times more often than it succeeds?Surely we should be having Trial Schemes in some areas to see if they work better? The if all the evidence shows S&S is the better option then go for it. But it doesn't work like that - in an ideal world S&S would fail in every case - it acts as a deterrent to carrying a weapon in public. Well, that is clever semantics to try and make a failing policy look like a successful one. Lesser minds might fall for it. As long as there is still Knife Crime on our streets every S&S that leads to "no further action" is a FAILURE to take a weapon off the streets. All The Best |
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Post by witchfinder on Aug 7, 2024 10:35:32 GMT
Interesting to note that for some posters, the Number 1 issue in all of this is some suggestion / a theory / an opinion which is unfounded and unproven, that there is two tier policing.
However, the fact that rioting in citys up and down England caused entirely by (A) the far right, and (B) lies and wrong information, is largely ignored by these posters.
It seems that a conspiracy theory is more important than attempting to burn down buildings with people inside, attacking the police or attacking people simply because they are Asian and could be Muslims.
No different to the Fascists of Germany prior to the Kristallnacht .... everything out of proportion, mixed with ignorance and lies.
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Post by sandypine on Aug 7, 2024 10:40:39 GMT
Interesting to note that for some posters, the Number 1 issue in all of this is some suggestion / a theory / an opinion which is unfounded and unproven, that there is two tier policing. However, the fact that rioting in citys up and down England caused entirely by (A) the far right, and (B) lies and wrong information, is largely ignored by these posters. It seems that a conspiracy theory is more important than attempting to burn down buildings with people inside, attacking the police or attacking people simply because they are Asian and could be Muslims. No different to the Fascists of Germany prior to the Kristallnacht .... everything out of proportion, mixed with ignorance and lies. Mcpherson specifically demanded two tier policing and the police took it on board what is so difficult to understand about that fact. |
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Post by witchfinder on Aug 7, 2024 10:48:26 GMT
Interesting to note that for some posters, the Number 1 issue in all of this is some suggestion / a theory / an opinion which is unfounded and unproven, that there is two tier policing. However, the fact that rioting in citys up and down England caused entirely by (A) the far right, and (B) lies and wrong information, is largely ignored by these posters. It seems that a conspiracy theory is more important than attempting to burn down buildings with people inside, attacking the police or attacking people simply because they are Asian and could be Muslims. No different to the Fascists of Germany prior to the Kristallnacht .... everything out of proportion, mixed with ignorance and lies. Mcpherson specifically demanded two tier policing and the police took it on board what is so difficult to understand about that fact. Posters are suggesting ( wrongly ) that violence and disorder committed by the far right + the thugs who attend their planned riots, are been policed, whilst any opposing protests are been largely unpoliced or ignored, and its a conspiracy theory without any evidence. The fact that the CPS, police forces and the Home Office are going to make an example of the rioters is true, they are going to meet the harshest sentences, and MOST PEOPLE in this country agree with this policy. |
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