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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 5, 2024 9:46:18 GMT
I thought that the swastika tattoos, Nazi salutes, racist graffiti and attacking mosques was a bit of a giveaway. People committing acts of criminal violence don't tend to stop for interviews either, can't think why. Maybe because they know how the media works - editing interviews and twisting everything. Or that they are committing a criminal act and don't want to be identified? |
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Post by Orac on Aug 5, 2024 10:02:06 GMT
Could we witnessing the start of the collapse of the Blair administration, which has been effectively in power now for 27 years?
It sounds a little too much like a wish for my tastes
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Post by sandypine on Aug 5, 2024 10:04:42 GMT
Keep going idiocy will win through. Men are a specific risk but men exist in abundance in society, if men were forcing themselves into women's spaces then that represents an increased threat to women. That is stating the bleeding obvious. So if men exist but men with unknown criminality, unknown proclivities, from unknown cultures but suspected to be from areas wherein women are second class and religious differences create different values towards others are forcing themselves upon us, and they are, then that is an increased risk to us all.That is also stating the bleeding obvious. I repeat the left were cock-a-hoop at how Thatcher had to change her mind over the poll tax to counter the riots. For the left the riots worked and were in their eyes justified as people perceived unfairness. How hypocritical you all are. I've never expressed being "cock-a-hoop" about the poll tax riots so please drop the strawnan. Anyone meeting you for the first time knows nothing about you and plenty of men have committed violent crimes without their family or friends knowing. You do belong to a disproportionately violent demographic but it seems you don't like being judged on that. Perhaps reflect on that? The point was that 'the left' that broad indefinable but generally malign influence on everything were indeed cock-a-hoop that Thatcher had to drop a law due to public anger and the riots were a central part of that opposition. Can't pay won't pay was the cry. So we are in the realms where rioting is accepted as a legitimate expression of a grievance. Men represent a specific risk why increase that risk by bringing in men from different cultures and unknown in terms from what they are running. At best it seems careless at worst it is gross stupidity. |
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Post by ginnyg2 on Aug 5, 2024 10:05:44 GMT
Maybe because they know how the media works - editing interviews and twisting everything. Or that they are committing a criminal act and don't want to be identified? Like I said, I've never seen anyone even try to interview one of them or ask why they are doing what they are doing. Much easier just to form an opinion without establishing any motive. But hey! Who wants to know what motivates people? Just call them thugs or what ever. Sloppy reporting and typical. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 5, 2024 10:17:03 GMT
I've never expressed being "cock-a-hoop" about the poll tax riots so please drop the strawnan. Anyone meeting you for the first time knows nothing about you and plenty of men have committed violent crimes without their family or friends knowing. You do belong to a disproportionately violent demographic but it seems you don't like being judged on that. Perhaps reflect on that? The point was that 'the left' that broad indefinable but generally malign influence on everything were indeed cock-a-hoop that Thatcher had to drop a law due to public anger and the riots were a central part of that opposition. Can't pay won't pay was the cry. So we are in the realms where rioting is accepted as a legitimate expression of a grievance. Men represent a specific risk why increase that risk by bringing in men from different cultures and unknown in terms from what they are running. At best it seems careless at worst it is gross stupidity. Again, that's not my viewpoint, I condemn any and all acts of violent lawlessness equally. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 5, 2024 10:23:54 GMT
Or that they are committing a criminal act and don't want to be identified? Like I said, I've never seen anyone even try to interview one of them or ask why they are doing what they are doing. Much easier just to form an opinion without establishing any motive. But hey! Who wants to know what motivates people? Just call them thugs or what ever. Sloppy reporting and typical. Again they're engaged in criminal activity, they're hardly likely to want to have their face and name on national TV either. I'm not interested in hearing the views of violent criminals, I want them arrested, tried and jailed. |
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Post by ginnyg2 on Aug 5, 2024 10:28:58 GMT
Like I said, I've never seen anyone even try to interview one of them or ask why they are doing what they are doing. Much easier just to form an opinion without establishing any motive. But hey! Who wants to know what motivates people? Just call them thugs or what ever. Sloppy reporting and typical. Again they're engaged in criminal activity, they're hardly likely to want to have their face and name on national TV either. I'm not interested in hearing the views of violent criminals, I want them arrested, tried and jailed. How do you know they are all violent criminals? Have you talked to any of them? Nope- -just pass judgement without garnering any information. Typical ostrich. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 5, 2024 10:31:25 GMT
Again they're engaged in criminal activity, they're hardly likely to want to have their face and name on national TV either. I'm not interested in hearing the views of violent criminals, I want them arrested, tried and jailed. How do you know they are all violent criminals? Have you talked to any of them? Nope- -just pass judgement without garnering any information. Typical ostrich. Because I've seen them on TV committing violent criminal acts. |
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 5, 2024 10:32:02 GMT
Could we witnessing the start of the collapse of the Blair administration, which has been effectively in power now for 27 years?It sounds a little too much like a wish for my tastes Interesting question, certainly gave me food for thought. |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 5, 2024 10:52:47 GMT
I see the lefties are on twitter blaming Elon musk for the riots , because he dared allow Tommy Robinson a platform. honestly , these people are in cloud cuckoo land. I mind them saying similar with nick griffin all those years ago , how he should be deplatformed and not allowed a voice , while many others defended his right to speak however much they disagreed with them. I think we were saying on here yesterday how the left hate free speech , and certainly hate democracy. Its going to get worse im thinking. I think that its pretty much guaranteed that the Government will use these events as an excuse to bring in legislation to ban and restrict views that they don't like. ...and that is pretty much guaranteed to provoke a backlash in the long run. |
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Post by ginnyg2 on Aug 5, 2024 10:59:23 GMT
How do you know they are all violent criminals? Have you talked to any of them? Nope- -just pass judgement without garnering any information. Typical ostrich. Because I've seen them on TV committing violent criminal acts. Maybe they think they are fighting for the future of their country? If so they will appreciate your gratitude. Not. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 5, 2024 11:03:30 GMT
Because I've seen them on TV committing violent criminal acts. Maybe they think they are fighting for the future of their country? If so they will appreciate your gratitude. Not. Maybe a burglar thinks they are Robin Hood. Who cares? |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 5, 2024 14:15:50 GMT
The point was that 'the left' that broad indefinable but generally malign influence on everything were indeed cock-a-hoop that Thatcher had to drop a law due to public anger and the riots were a central part of that opposition. Can't pay won't pay was the cry. So we are in the realms where rioting is accepted as a legitimate expression of a grievance. Men represent a specific risk why increase that risk by bringing in men from different cultures and unknown in terms from what they are running. At best it seems careless at worst it is gross stupidity. Again, that's not my viewpoint, I condemn any and all acts of violent lawlessness equally. Again your viewpoint is largely irrelevant in that respect. It is the lessons people learn along the way, you may do so equally but it is too often seen that on the left violence when it appears is justified with blandishments and hypocrisy. We have watched it unfold over almost 3 decades. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 5, 2024 14:21:23 GMT
Again, that's not my viewpoint, I condemn any and all acts of violent lawlessness equally. Again your viewpoint is largely irrelevant in that respect. It is the lessons people learn along the way, you may do so equally but it is too often seen that on the left violence when it appears is justified with blandishments and hypocrisy. We have watched it unfold over almost 3 decades. It's not people on the left making excuses for the violence over the past few days. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 5, 2024 14:36:46 GMT
Again your viewpoint is largely irrelevant in that respect. It is the lessons people learn along the way, you may do so equally but it is too often seen that on the left violence when it appears is justified with blandishments and hypocrisy. We have watched it unfold over almost 3 decades. It's not people on the left making excuses for the violence over the past few days. Indeed. They are the ones constructing a sinister ‘ far right ‘ bunch of Nazis behind the unrest . Straight out of the Putin playbook. |
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