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Post by Bentley on Aug 4, 2024 10:24:35 GMT
If they had, do you think Starmer would have been able to obey Jack Straw's directive to ignore the sexual assault of young girls ?
When blacks rioted over a police shooting, the papers happily photographed and lauded and applauded SIKHS stamnding in the streets with baseball bats "ready to protect their property"
But if a white man dared to do the same ... we all know what the end result would be.
Oh yea poor mr white Guy lol . Hows the black and white minstrels doing . It never was the same since Lenny Henry left . |
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Post by thomas on Aug 4, 2024 10:24:49 GMT
eh? There are numerous electoral systems in use in the uk nations , of which one is FPTP . There are different legal systems in use in the uk of which only one is English laws. We have different customs in use in the uk. Whats your point in relation to what I said? I dont support the anti democratic fptp system. Clearly , when a party only gets a minority of the vote , in this case , a third , but get rewarded with a disproportionate amount of seats , double its vote share , then we have a problem. Labour have no majority mandate. Labour didnt "win" , it fell into power off the back of a lack of proper democracy. Its landslide was a cruel mockery of what is supposed to pass for uk democracy. so if you are going to criticise Sandys views as not reflective of the majority , then it follows neither are the labour parties views reflective of the majority. 20% of the electorate ruling 80 % isnt popularity , its a farce. The right have won most of the general elections we have had under this system, was it unfair then? Why ask me? im not right wing. Ive never voted conservative in my entire life. I have though been keenly against the anti democratic fptp system for over twenty years , and those using unhelpful language trying to prop it up such as "winning" and " landslides" when neither word is a fair reflection of the small amount of votes that the labour party got to become the uk government . labour do not have the support , nor are their views reflective of the majority. That is the fact of the matter. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 4, 2024 10:24:58 GMT
Oh yea poor mr white Guy lol . Hows the black and white minstrels doing . Well there we hsve it Proof positive ttl is as racist as Diane Flabbott And thick . |
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Post by thomas on Aug 4, 2024 10:25:47 GMT
yawn. really is desperate stuff now . |
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Post by witchfinder on Aug 4, 2024 10:31:01 GMT
Powell spoke specifically about black people ( people from British overseas territories in the Caribbean ) People who were BRITISH, people who spoke English, people who were Christians and grew up largely around British culture, they were people who grew up singing "God save the Queen" ( and King ), some of them fought in our armed forces in two world wars. Powell and his supporters had a problem with a persons colour, nothing else, both he and all who support him are out and out racists. Actually Powell's underlying concern was the introduction into Britain of the inter-communal violence he had witnessed in India while serving there, as well as the racial strife then currently endemic in the United States. He predicted that if immigration were not curtailed and present immigrants repatriated then the same problems would arise in Britain, and who's to say he was wrong? Inter-communal violence in India was between people of two differing faiths, people from the Caribbean are almost entirely Christian people. What Powell should have done is to promote the idea ( The Truth ) that these people were our own people, who were from our colonies, and who had taken up the call to come here and help us to rebuild our country after the Second World War. The entire notion that there could be, might be, or that there was any possibility of tensions was based 100% and entirely on racism, of the idea that we dont want people in our country who look different, who are a different colour. The sooner you accept Powell was a racist, the better, the historical evidence is pretty overwhelming. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 4, 2024 10:34:22 GMT
Actually Powell's underlying concern was the introduction into Britain of the inter-communal violence he had witnessed in India while serving there, as well as the racial strife then currently endemic in the United States. He predicted that if immigration were not curtailed and present immigrants repatriated then the same problems would arise in Britain, and who's to say he was wrong? Inter-communal violence in India was between people of two differing faiths, people from the Caribbean are almost entirely Christian people. What Powell should have done is to promote the idea ( The Truth ) that these people were our own people, who were from our colonies, and who had taken up the call to come here and help us to rebuild our country after the Second World War. The entire notion that there could be, might be, or that there was any possibility of tensions was based 100% and entirely on racism, of the idea that we dont want people in our country who look different, who are a different colour. The sooner you accept Powell was a racist, the better, the historical evidence is pretty overwhelming. What a load of bollocks, fiddles.
The evidence that you are a racist grows with your every post.
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Post by thomas on Aug 4, 2024 10:39:19 GMT
Actually Powell's underlying concern was the introduction into Britain of the inter-communal violence he had witnessed in India while serving there, as well as the racial strife then currently endemic in the United States. He predicted that if immigration were not curtailed and present immigrants repatriated then the same problems would arise in Britain, and who's to say he was wrong? Inter-communal violence in India was between people of two differing faiths, people from the Caribbean are almost entirely Christian people. What Powell should have done is to promote the idea ( The Truth ) that these people were our own people, who were from our colonies, and who had taken up the call to come here and help us to rebuild our country after the Second World War. The entire notion that there could be, might be, or that there was any possibility of tensions was based 100% and entirely on racism, of the idea that we dont want people in our country who look different, who are a different colour. The sooner you accept Powell was a racist, the better, the historical evidence is pretty overwhelming. thats it sid. You pontificate from your ivory tower in labour la la land , on the nice easy topic of racism , and bogeymen of yesteryear like Powell , keeping the narrative off the current problems we see in the uk which the Labour Party are clueless to address . You , labour and its supporters , are a large part of the yookays modern problems , rather than the solution to those problems , as we have seen under Blair and brown , and will see under starmer over the next five years. Ignoring peoples concerns , shouting racist while lecturing is likely to fan the flames of the smouldering bonfire that is the modern yookay. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 4, 2024 10:41:55 GMT
yawn. really is desperate stuff now . He posts such utter bollocks . Did you read his whine that right wing groups protesting about a black guy who butchered 3 white children are hypocrites because they don’t take to the streets about child safety ? |
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Post by thomas on Aug 4, 2024 10:45:13 GMT
yawn. really is desperate stuff now . He posts such utter bollocks . Did you read his whine that right wing groups protesting about a black guy who butchered 3 white children are hypocrites because they don’t take to the streets about child safety ? I agree. The few posts ive read this morning does appear to be nothing more than deflective nonsense. As I said , ignoring peoples concerns , screaming racist at everything that moves , while lecturing folk on how labour know best really is a recipe for disaster. Batten down the hatches if they aren't already , I think we are in for a bad five years Bentley. The start of this disastrous starmer government really does not inspire me or give me any sort of hope for the near future. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 4, 2024 10:47:38 GMT
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 4, 2024 10:48:50 GMT
Labour have managed to divide the country more in 4 weeks than the Tories managed in 14 years.
And we thought the Tories were bad. This far left government is going to be an absolute shithouse.
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 4, 2024 10:50:27 GMT
Labour have managed to divide the country more in 4 weeks than the Tories managed in 14 years. And we thought the Tories were bad. This far left government is going to be an absolute shithouse. Which Labour policies enacted in the last 4 weeks do you think caused all of this? |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 4, 2024 10:50:38 GMT
Actually Powell's underlying concern was the introduction into Britain of the inter-communal violence he had witnessed in India while serving there, as well as the racial strife then currently endemic in the United States. He predicted that if immigration were not curtailed and present immigrants repatriated then the same problems would arise in Britain, and who's to say he was wrong? Inter-communal violence in India was between people of two differing faiths, people from the Caribbean are almost entirely Christian people. What Powell should have done is to promote the idea ( The Truth ) that these people were our own people, who were from our colonies, and who had taken up the call to come here and help us to rebuild our country after the Second World War. Call by who? - the Atlee Government of the day was actively discouraging migration from the West Indies. |
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Post by thomas on Aug 4, 2024 10:51:00 GMT
the first comment under your latest diversionary twitter link sums it up for me....................says an upper class toff..........talking about Goodall. Labour most certainly do not speak for or represent the working class of scotland and England . Labour are the party of the southern English middle class trendy lefty liberals in their leafy suburbs. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 4, 2024 10:52:02 GMT
He posts such utter bollocks . Did you read his whine that right wing groups protesting about a black guy who butchered 3 white children are hypocrites because they don’t take to the streets about child safety ? I agree. The few posts ive read this morning does appear to be nothing more than deflective nonsense. As I said , ignoring peoples concerns , screaming racist at everything that moves , while lecturing folk on how labour know best really is a recipe for disaster. Batten down the hatches if they aren't already , I think we are in for a bad five years Bentley. The start of this disastrous starmer government really does not inspire me or give me any sort of hope for the near future. Deflection is the word . I’ve heard better arguments from a child who doesn’t want a bath . Im think we both predicted a Labour government of identity politics and hypocrisy. It only took a month for it to emerge . |
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