Sir keir has it right

Well in the timeline of all this and what seems an age ago but isn’t a thread which was “The dregs of society riot”  in Harehills where a mixed bag aka dregs took exception to social services doing their job,because of that reaction police were called and the dregs thought sod any reasoning let’s riot, where you magic up the right wing scum in all this only you know.

What was the reaction? social services backed down the police were ordered to withdraw and an inquest was promised.

Not much longer after this some thugs at Manchester airport attacked armed officers and gave them a beating which in most other countries would have resulted in being shot dead.
Half a video was shown,uproar and condemnation of thuggish police racists and scumbags which resulted in a mob gathering outside Rochdale police HQ where threats were made to riot cause mayhem and make these mother******* (the police) pay unless they got their justice.There was no riot that night because the police were ordered not to confront them or (copyright Yvette cooper) use the strongest possible action and a cop was suspended and faces criminal charges resulting in armed police laying down their weapons,

We then move on to the Southport murders and by this time more dregs have witnessed what has gone on previously and think we’ll have some of that and we are where we are disorder,riots poice attacked on all sides.

The reaction from you TTL  and many others not least our new political masters is thugs,racists,scum the police must crack down hard.

Lets be clear those involved in all the lawbreaking from Harehills to attacks on police at the airport the threats in Rochdale rioting in Southport and since were all done by the dregs of society.

Now had the police been allowed to nip this in the bud the politicians and pundits not said their piece that minorities being targeted or the police were thugs and racist at the outset and allowed to do their job do you think we would be are where we are now?

I suspect you and TTL will reply with more excuses and inane comments about the black and white minstrels.

The reality is all those behaving as they did are the dregs and scum irrespective of colour or religion and until the law is enforced without reference to political niceties and equally without regard to ethnicity this will continue.

Immigration must also be addressed because whilst people are struggling with the cost of living placing people in hotels is not sustainable,curbing immigration has been a problem for decades with promises it will be sorted by different govts who have done nothing.

Blair has played a major part in all this as did his adventure with Bush that destabilised the Middle East causing the rise of isis and movement of people.

Were the 2011 rioters reflective of the majority of the population?

Why?

Why is some riots are reflective of majority opinion and others apparently are not?

And what system does one use to distinguish between the two?

That's our system, surely you respect our laws and customs?

Labour got more votes than any other single party did, so their opponents were less popular.

so in a normal democracy , labour would have been the biggest party , with a third of seats , but no majority then? 

bore off sid. Is this the only thing labour supporters know what to do.....scream racist and shout tory bad?

Meanwhile back in the real world of the here and now , I see the Sunday post is reporting that the new labour minority support government with no mandate , cutting the winter fuel payment is going to push 270 000  pensioners into poverty and deprivation this winter , with many of them now currently living in fear at the prospect , and all you can waffle about is some long gone politician from a bygone age while screaming racist?

 

The right have won most of the general elections we have had under this system, was it unfair then?