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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 1, 2024 17:12:59 GMT
Why would anyone want to listen to the scumbag EDL? Even the bereaved parents told them they were not wanted. They need to be dealt with the same as anyone else causing riots. What makes me laugh on here is it is the same people on here excusing the rioters who were demanding tougher sentences for JSO protestors last week. Because choke you as it may they are UK citizens who are expressing concerns in a way that works for everyone else. They are not half a dozen self-opionated students they are mostly working people. They have not thrown bikes at horses, nor daubed the cenotaph nor vandalised statues. They may have erroneously attacked a mosque but that stems from long standing evidence as regards the part mosques can play in such events as in Southport. Their expression may be pretty unpalatable but they are still citizens with concerns and even if they are half canned what you are saying is you have decided what they are and they have no right to express any opinion you do not agree with. The right to protest is universal it is not dependant upon who you are and Starmer has confirmed he agrees with you. The right to protest? Absolutely. 100% agree. Right to riot and attack the emergency services? No, they can go to hell. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 1, 2024 17:16:01 GMT
They need to consult the community leaders and call for calm . Maybe a few of them can meet with the PM . Hasn’t the main leader skipped off abroad? Still, I guess there’s always Skype… Yup, left the country to avoid court proceedings. Such an upstanding bloke. All The Best |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 1, 2024 18:39:19 GMT
Because choke you as it may they are UK citizens who are expressing concerns in a way that works for everyone else. They are not half a dozen self-opionated students they are mostly working people. They have not thrown bikes at horses, nor daubed the cenotaph nor vandalised statues. They may have erroneously attacked a mosque but that stems from long standing evidence as regards the part mosques can play in such events as in Southport. Their expression may be pretty unpalatable but they are still citizens with concerns and even if they are half canned what you are saying is you have decided what they are and they have no right to express any opinion you do not agree with. The right to protest is universal it is not dependant upon who you are and Starmer has confirmed he agrees with you. The right to protest? Absolutely. 100% agree. Right to riot and attack the emergency services? No, they can go to hell. And Starmer's intent is to stop them travelling to locations where a protest will be held. We have not seen that type of action since the miner's strike and I am trying to recall exactly how the left reacted to that, ah yes a police sate I seem to recall. A right to protest brings with it the ever present risk of other action but that is what we live with after all ensuring the freedom of 'the far right' is what protects us all is it not. Or does that only apply to Abu Qutada |
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Post by witchfinder on Aug 1, 2024 18:39:43 GMT
Sorry, but you are a very long way from reality and the truth These murders have got nothing to do with either asylum seekers, immigrants or multi-culturalism. The culprit in this instance was British, born in Wales The murder of the three children is as a result of someone who had serious criminal intent, for whatever reason we do not know, perhaps the youth is disturbed or has mental health issues, or maybe he's just criminally minded. Its now got rather predictable that whenever a violent crime is committed by anyone of an ethnic minority, a black person, an Asian, a Muslim or anyone whos origins are not from Britain, that silly bastards and dimwits attempt to link the persons colour or faith to the crime. People who promote such dangerous nonsense are no different to those who promoted the hatred of Jews in the 1930s which led to The Kristallnacth. People are attacking Mosques for no other reason than they are Mosques, innocent people are been intimidated, and decent, law abiding citizens are scared because of what the right wing thugs are doing. The EDL, Tommy Robinson and all who support such idiots have disrespected the grieving families of Southport, and the police, ther nothing more than Rabble Rousers and trouble makers. The main problem is that stats show continuously that if one attaches ethnicity to crime then proportionally ethnic groups are linked in greater numbers to crime and to mental instability. It is not so much nonsense as to say it is it is more like nonsense to say it is not. We have had numerous riots over the years and the government response is usually to try and address community concerns. It seems only one community is ignored in this as our 'community leaders' are the ones busy giving it to us up the arse. As debunked on both SKY News and BBC News, there is no corrolation or connection between violent crime and immigration, or immigrants or the numbers / percentage of foreign born people within the population. Violent crime is at an all time low. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 1, 2024 18:43:37 GMT
The main problem is that stats show continuously that if one attaches ethnicity to crime then proportionally ethnic groups are linked in greater numbers to crime and to mental instability. It is not so much nonsense as to say it is it is more like nonsense to say it is not. We have had numerous riots over the years and the government response is usually to try and address community concerns. It seems only one community is ignored in this as our 'community leaders' are the ones busy giving it to us up the arse. As debunked on both SKY News and BBC News, there is no corrolation or connection between violent crime and immigration, or immigrants or the numbers / percentage of foreign born people within the population. Violent crime is at an all time low. 🤣 |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 1, 2024 18:54:24 GMT
As debunked on both SKY News and BBC News, there is no corrolation or connection between violent crime and immigration, or immigrants or the numbers / percentage of foreign born people within the population. Violent crime is at an all time low. Priceless, absolutely priceless. Honestly, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 1, 2024 19:03:05 GMT
The right to protest? Absolutely. 100% agree. Right to riot and attack the emergency services? No, they can go to hell. And Starmer's intent is to stop them travelling to locations where a protest will be held. We have not seen that type of action since the miner's strike and I am trying to recall exactly how the left reacted to that, ah yes a police sate I seem to recall. A right to protest brings with it the ever present risk of other action but that is what we live with after all ensuring the freedom of 'the far right' is what protects us all is it not. Or does that only apply to Abu Qutada Well that was because the Miner's Strike was 100% completely justified. Thatcher only set out to destroy the NUM because that would weaken Scargill. Everything Scargill said about the Miner's Strike has subsequently been shown to be true. All of the Miner's protesting had skin in the fight. These EDL Rent-A-Thugs had no skin in this fight, they just wanted an excuse to kick off with some racially motivated violence. They are getting close to the definition of a Terrorist Group. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 1, 2024 19:04:06 GMT
As debunked on both SKY News and BBC News, there is no corrolation or connection between violent crime and immigration, or immigrants or the numbers / percentage of foreign born people within the population. Violent crime is at an all time low. Priceless, absolutely priceless. Honestly, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Maybe try using your brain and working out the facts. Oh, no, can't do that - have to hold tight to those prejudices, right? All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 1, 2024 19:05:40 GMT
The main problem is that stats show continuously that if one attaches ethnicity to crime then proportionally ethnic groups are linked in greater numbers to crime and to mental instability. You got links to peer-reveiwed data to support that claim? No, of course you haven't. All The Best |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 1, 2024 19:06:54 GMT
The main problem is that stats show continuously that if one attaches ethnicity to crime then proportionally ethnic groups are linked in greater numbers to crime and to mental instability. It is not so much nonsense as to say it is it is more like nonsense to say it is not. We have had numerous riots over the years and the government response is usually to try and address community concerns. It seems only one community is ignored in this as our 'community leaders' are the ones busy giving it to us up the arse. As debunked on both SKY News and BBC News, there is no corrolation or connection between violent crime and immigration, or immigrants or the numbers / percentage of foreign born people within the population. Violent crime is at an all time low. That is because I did not say immigration and that can be debunked as often as you like. I referred specifically to ethnicity and its relationship to crime and mental issues and if we import ethnicities with 17 times more likelihood of having mental issues than white people from areas where there is likely to be a severe increases in the exacerbation of any issues then it may seem strange but an increase in mental health issues is what we will get and and what we have got. With all the attendant crime that comes with that. |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 1, 2024 19:14:15 GMT
And Starmer's intent is to stop them travelling to locations where a protest will be held. We have not seen that type of action since the miner's strike and I am trying to recall exactly how the left reacted to that, ah yes a police sate I seem to recall. A right to protest brings with it the ever present risk of other action but that is what we live with after all ensuring the freedom of 'the far right' is what protects us all is it not. Or does that only apply to Abu Qutada Well that was because the Miner's Strike was 100% completely justified. Thatcher only set out to destroy the NUM because that would weaken Scargill. Everything Scargill said about the Miner's Strike has subsequently been shown to be true. All of the Miner's protesting had skin in the fight. These EDL Rent-A-Thugs had no skin in this fight, they just wanted an excuse to kick off with some racially motivated violence. They are getting close to the definition of a Terrorist Group. All The Best I can remember 'flying thugs' hurling stones at people trying to go to work to meet their families needs. They also had skin in the fight and were being intimidated, threatened and attacked for going their own way. 100% justified is of course opinion. If Thatcher had hung on a few years then the likes of JSO would have done her work for her and glued themselves to the mineshafts. I am not sure how that would have worked out though? |
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Post by ginnyg2 on Aug 1, 2024 19:15:21 GMT
The main problem is that stats show continuously that if one attaches ethnicity to crime then proportionally ethnic groups are linked in greater numbers to crime and to mental instability. You got links to peer-reveiwed data to support that claim? No, of course you haven't. All The Best You got links to debunk it? No, of course you haven't. All The Best! |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 1, 2024 19:27:36 GMT
The main problem is that stats show continuously that if one attaches ethnicity to crime then proportionally ethnic groups are linked in greater numbers to crime and to mental instability. You got links to peer-reveiwed data to support that claim? No, of course you haven't. All The Best Well under the aegeis of combatting racism that is exactly what this BBC report says www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40495539"Statistics suggest a black man in the UK is 17 times more likely than a white man to be diagnosed with a serious mental health condition such as schizophrenia or bipolar." Now whether it is racism as this report suggests, but then most reports suggest that, or whether it is just the way it is is immaterial. What it boils down to is it is real in the here and now and it is both idiotic and not in the public interest to import people with these noted susceptibilities to such a significant greater extent where we currently have a crisis in the treatment of. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 1, 2024 19:57:21 GMT
You got links to peer-reveiwed data to support that claim? No, of course you haven't. All The Best You got links to debunk it? No, of course you haven't. All The Best! I never made the claim; the onus is not on me to prove or disprove anything. The onus is on whomever made the claim to support it. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 1, 2024 19:59:44 GMT
Well that was because the Miner's Strike was 100% completely justified. Thatcher only set out to destroy the NUM because that would weaken Scargill. Everything Scargill said about the Miner's Strike has subsequently been shown to be true. All of the Miner's protesting had skin in the fight. These EDL Rent-A-Thugs had no skin in this fight, they just wanted an excuse to kick off with some racially motivated violence. They are getting close to the definition of a Terrorist Group. All The Best I can remember 'flying thugs' hurling stones at people trying to go to work to meet their families needs. They also had skin in the fight and were being intimidated, threatened and attacked for going their own way. 100% justified is of course opinion. If Thatcher had hung on a few years then the likes of JSO would have done her work for her and glued themselves to the mineshafts. I am not sure how that would have worked out though? Not condoning the attacks on those trying to go to work; the choice to withhold one's labour MUST be a personal choice. That said the "flying pickets" were still Miners - so had skin in the game. All The Best |
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