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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 1, 2024 13:31:24 GMT
"It's a matter of multiculturalism not working" By that logic any murder committed by a white indigenous Brit is a matter of mono-culturalism not working. Nope. It would be multiculturalism not working . You know what multiculturalism is dont you ? Here’s a clue …it involves more than one culture Do you think expunging contemporary Britain of all other cultural influences or symbols is even practically possible let alone desirable? |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 13:35:09 GMT
Nope. It would be multiculturalism not working . You know what multiculturalism is dont you ? Here’s a clue …it involves more than one culture Do you think expunging contemporary Britain of all other cultural influences or symbols is even practically possible let alone desirable? Did I say that ? Your reply has nothing to do with the post you replied to . It’s more of a diversion from your brainless comment from you . |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 1, 2024 13:42:25 GMT
Do you think expunging contemporary Britain of all other cultural influences or symbols is even practically possible let alone desirable? Did I say that ? Your reply has nothing to do with the post you replied to . It’s more of a diversion from your brainless comment from you . The idea that one horrific crime committed by one person who's parents come from a different culture means that the presence of other cultures in our society is a failure is illogical. Indigenous Brits have committed horrific crimes including killing children, does that constitute a failure of British culture? |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 13:54:17 GMT
Did I say that ? Your reply has nothing to do with the post you replied to . It’s more of a diversion from your brainless comment from you . The idea that one horrific crime committed by one person who's parents come from a different culture means that the presence of other cultures in our society is a failure is illogical. Indigenous Brits have committed horrific crimes including killing children, does that constitute a failure of British culture? Not if it’s just another symptom . Indigenous Brits killing Brit children would not be connected to British culture unless killing children was part of British culture . You are using a very poor strawman . |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 1, 2024 14:05:52 GMT
The idea that one horrific crime committed by one person who's parents come from a different culture means that the presence of other cultures in our society is a failure is illogical. Indigenous Brits have committed horrific crimes including killing children, does that constitute a failure of British culture? Not if it’s just another symptom . Indigenous Brits killing Brit children would not be connected to British culture unless killing children was part of British culture . You are using a very poor strawman . Which cultures have killing children as part of their culture? Unless it's all cultures other than British that have any kind of visibility in Britain today then you can't say that this horrific crime is proof of the failure of multiculturalism. The Southport killer was born and raised in Britain. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 14:11:29 GMT
Not if it’s just another symptom . Indigenous Brits killing Brit children would not be connected to British culture unless killing children was part of British culture . You are using a very poor strawman . Which cultures have killing children as part of their culture? Unless it's all cultures other than British that have any kind of visibility in Britain today then you can't say that this horrific crime is proof of the failure of multiculturalism. The Southport killer was born and raised in Britain. You tell me . I posted ‘ unless’. I never said it was ‘ proof’ I said “ Not if it’s just another symptom .“ Why didn’t you read the post you replied to ? Yes I know the murderer was a second generation migrant . ”A second generation immigrant is the child of an immigrant who is born in the country that their parent immigrated to.” |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 1, 2024 14:28:10 GMT
Which cultures have killing children as part of their culture? Unless it's all cultures other than British that have any kind of visibility in Britain today then you can't say that this horrific crime is proof of the failure of multiculturalism. The Southport killer was born and raised in Britain. You tell me . I posted ‘ unless’. I never said it was ‘ proof’ I said “ Not if it’s just another symptom .“ Why didn’t you read the post you replied to ? Yes I know the murderer was a second generation migrant . ”A second generation immigrant is the child of an immigrant who is born in the country that their parent immigrated to.” You seem to have lost the thread of whatever argument you were trying to make here. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 14:33:17 GMT
You tell me . I posted ‘ unless’. I never said it was ‘ proof’ I said “ Not if it’s just another symptom .“ Why didn’t you read the post you replied to ? Yes I know the murderer was a second generation migrant . ”A second generation immigrant is the child of an immigrant who is born in the country that their parent immigrated to.” You seem to have lost the thread of whatever argument you were trying to make here. Nope. You have been demonstrating obtuseness by posting inane answers that didn’t reflect the post you replied to . I had to correct your mistakes here twice in one post . |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 1, 2024 15:10:06 GMT
After Peter Sutcliffe and Jimmy Saville, it's proof that having Yorkshire as part of the UK is devastating. Anyone who denies this is behaving like an ostrich.
Let's all go and loot supermarkets that sell Yorkshire puddings.
It's their own fault. They're asking for it.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 15:17:19 GMT
After Peter Sutcliffe and Jimmy Saville, it's proof that having Yorkshire as part of the UK is devastating. Anyone who denies this is behaving like an ostrich. Let's all go and loot supermarkets that sell Yorkshire puddings. It's their own fault. They're asking for it. Indeed. The fact that the Pakistani grooming/Muslim rape gangs only targeted little white girls proves that ethnicity and culture has nothing to do with crimes across ethnicity and culture . See I can do that . |
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Post by ginnyg2 on Aug 1, 2024 15:24:22 GMT
The very dark looking Roma who set light to buses and police cars , the black mobs who riot and loot when one of their gangster brothers is shot , the Muslims who threaten to burn down a police station and more unless they get their own way . Maybe they have shown white people the way. Thats multiculturalism for you . So white British people are rioting because they are copying Roma, Muslims and black people? Are you saying white British people are easily led like children and incapable of controlling themselves? Sounds quite racist to me TBH. No. They have realised that rioting gets you noticed and listened to. |
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Post by witchfinder on Aug 1, 2024 15:43:39 GMT
Is there some kind of relationship or connection between illegal immigrants and the topic we are here debating. ? I thought we were debating the murder of three children by a 17 year old youth who was born in Cardiff It's a matter of multiculturalism not working. These people were from a VERY different culture - and I spent years living in Africa. Don't expect them to behave like people brought up in England because they simply don't. But the main question here is whether the killer had been radicalised by islam. The police are keeping very quiet about this. My guess - and it is a guess - is that this person had been radicalised. The reason I say that is because the MO of the atrocity that he has committed is a typically muslim one. He has used knives and has targeted an event where mainly white girls are dancing to a pop star - think about the Manchester Arena attack and the Battaclan. Unfortunately the police - and the govt - are trying to deny us all the facts - just like with that soldier who was stabbed a few weeks ago. It won't work. You can't hide this stuff in the internet age. Sorry, but you are a very long way from reality and the truth These murders have got nothing to do with either asylum seekers, immigrants or multi-culturalism. The culprit in this instance was British, born in Wales The murder of the three children is as a result of someone who had serious criminal intent, for whatever reason we do not know, perhaps the youth is disturbed or has mental health issues, or maybe he's just criminally minded. Its now got rather predictable that whenever a violent crime is committed by anyone of an ethnic minority, a black person, an Asian, a Muslim or anyone whos origins are not from Britain, that silly bastards and dimwits attempt to link the persons colour or faith to the crime. People who promote such dangerous nonsense are no different to those who promoted the hatred of Jews in the 1930s which led to The Kristallnacth. People are attacking Mosques for no other reason than they are Mosques, innocent people are been intimidated, and decent, law abiding citizens are scared because of what the right wing thugs are doing. The EDL, Tommy Robinson and all who support such idiots have disrespected the grieving families of Southport, and the police, ther nothing more than Rabble Rousers and trouble makers. |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 1, 2024 16:31:19 GMT
It's a matter of multiculturalism not working. These people were from a VERY different culture - and I spent years living in Africa. Don't expect them to behave like people brought up in England because they simply don't. But the main question here is whether the killer had been radicalised by islam. The police are keeping very quiet about this. My guess - and it is a guess - is that this person had been radicalised. The reason I say that is because the MO of the atrocity that he has committed is a typically muslim one. He has used knives and has targeted an event where mainly white girls are dancing to a pop star - think about the Manchester Arena attack and the Battaclan. Unfortunately the police - and the govt - are trying to deny us all the facts - just like with that soldier who was stabbed a few weeks ago. It won't work. You can't hide this stuff in the internet age. Sorry, but you are a very long way from reality and the truth These murders have got nothing to do with either asylum seekers, immigrants or multi-culturalism. The culprit in this instance was British, born in Wales The murder of the three children is as a result of someone who had serious criminal intent, for whatever reason we do not know, perhaps the youth is disturbed or has mental health issues, or maybe he's just criminally minded. Its now got rather predictable that whenever a violent crime is committed by anyone of an ethnic minority, a black person, an Asian, a Muslim or anyone whos origins are not from Britain, that silly bastards and dimwits attempt to link the persons colour or faith to the crime. People who promote such dangerous nonsense are no different to those who promoted the hatred of Jews in the 1930s which led to The Kristallnacth. People are attacking Mosques for no other reason than they are Mosques, innocent people are been intimidated, and decent, law abiding citizens are scared because of what the right wing thugs are doing. The EDL, Tommy Robinson and all who support such idiots have disrespected the grieving families of Southport, and the police, ther nothing more than Rabble Rousers and trouble makers. The main problem is that stats show continuously that if one attaches ethnicity to crime then proportionally ethnic groups are linked in greater numbers to crime and to mental instability. It is not so much nonsense as to say it is it is more like nonsense to say it is not. We have had numerous riots over the years and the government response is usually to try and address community concerns. It seems only one community is ignored in this as our 'community leaders' are the ones busy giving it to us up the arse. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 1, 2024 16:42:13 GMT
So white British people are rioting because they are copying Roma, Muslims and black people? Are you saying white British people are easily led like children and incapable of controlling themselves? Sounds quite racist to me TBH. No. They have realised that rioting gets you noticed and listened to. Why would anyone want to listen to the scumbag EDL? Even the bereaved parents told them they were not wanted. They need to be dealt with the same as anyone else causing riots. What makes me laugh on here is it is the same people on here excusing the rioters who were demanding tougher sentences for JSO protestors last week. |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 1, 2024 16:59:21 GMT
No. They have realised that rioting gets you noticed and listened to. Why would anyone want to listen to the scumbag EDL? Even the bereaved parents told them they were not wanted. They need to be dealt with the same as anyone else causing riots. What makes me laugh on here is it is the same people on here excusing the rioters who were demanding tougher sentences for JSO protestors last week. Because choke you as it may they are UK citizens who are expressing concerns in a way that works for everyone else. They are not half a dozen self-opionated students they are mostly working people. They have not thrown bikes at horses, nor daubed the cenotaph nor vandalised statues. They may have erroneously attacked a mosque but that stems from long standing evidence as regards the part mosques can play in such events as in Southport. Their expression may be pretty unpalatable but they are still citizens with concerns and even if they are half canned what you are saying is you have decided what they are and they have no right to express any opinion you do not agree with. The right to protest is universal it is not dependant upon who you are and Starmer has confirmed he agrees with you. |
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