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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 1, 2024 10:37:24 GMT
Quite possibly. Gets brought up in one culture but finds himself living in another in which he feels that he doesn't fit. Becomes socially isolated, resentment builds and mental health issues follow. It's a well worn path. You find the truth ridiculous? You wouldn't know the truth if it flew at 100 miles per hour and hit you in the face For a start off, its all just speculation, but the speculation fits in very nicely with your bigoted mind and way of thinking. If indeed the youth charged with murder does turn out to be not white, and has parents or grandparents who came to this country from somewhere else, it has no bearing on the fact that the youth is a murderer, and the fact that he committed a terrible crime. A white person commits a crime because he or she is a criminal and is criminally minded - THEY DO NOT COMMIT THAT CRIME BECAUSE THEY ARE WHITE. There's no speculation, fiddles - we all know the truth. You only can't see it because of all the sparks flying off of that massive axe you're grinding. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 10:38:02 GMT
Quite. The mullahs target these thickos to use as cannon fodder. Religion is just the means of control. A method that's as old as the hills. Left wing politics works the exact same way. Is there some kind of relationship or connection between illegal immigrants and the topic we are here debating. ? I thought we were debating the murder of three children by a 17 year old youth who was born in Cardiff Wrong. We were discussing Downing Street under attack . |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 1, 2024 10:46:13 GMT
Quite possibly. Gets brought up in one culture but finds himself living in another in which he feels that he doesn't fit. Becomes socially isolated, resentment builds and mental health issues follow. It's a well worn path. You find the truth ridiculous? You wouldn't know the truth if it flew at 100 miles per hour and hit you in the face For a start off, its all just speculation, but the speculation fits in very nicely with your bigoted mind and way of thinking. If indeed the youth charged with murder does turn out to be not white, and has parents or grandparents who came to this country from somewhere else, it has no bearing on the fact that the youth is a murderer, and the fact that he committed a terrible crime. A white person commits a crime because he or she is a criminal and is criminally minded - THEY DO NOT COMMIT THAT CRIME BECAUSE THEY ARE WHITE. We are back again to risk and it is the increased risk of mental health issues from asylum seekers and those of recent migrant descent that is a risk being imposed upon communities against their will by government. The risk arises from recent legal and illegal migration that are at enormous levels and are causing unrest in communities. These risks are significantly higher than the normal risk and results in the kind of thing such as the stabbing in Kent and, as seems likely, the stabbings in Southport, as well as the Kurdish man pushing a stranger off a platform. In Germany young male migrants may have significantly contributed to a dramatic rise in crime. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 1, 2024 10:58:31 GMT
You wouldn't know the truth if it flew at 100 miles per hour and hit you in the face For a start off, its all just speculation, but the speculation fits in very nicely with your bigoted mind and way of thinking. If indeed the youth charged with murder does turn out to be not white, and has parents or grandparents who came to this country from somewhere else, it has no bearing on the fact that the youth is a murderer, and the fact that he committed a terrible crime. A white person commits a crime because he or she is a criminal and is criminally minded - THEY DO NOT COMMIT THAT CRIME BECAUSE THEY ARE WHITE. We are back again to risk and it is the increased risk of mental health issues from asylum seekers and those of recent migrant descent that is a risk being imposed upon communities against their will by government. The risk arises from recent legal and illegal migration that are at enormous levels and are causing unrest in communities. These risks are significantly higher than the normal risk and results in the kind of thing such as the stabbing in Kent and, as seems likely, the stabbings in Southport, as well as the Kurdish man pushing a stranger off a platform. In Germany young male migrants may have significantly contributed to a dramatic rise in crime. Not to mention that in many backward foreign cultures mental health is seen as a source of shame, hence the desire to offload sufferers elsewhere. |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 1, 2024 11:08:39 GMT
We are back again to risk and it is the increased risk of mental health issues from asylum seekers and those of recent migrant descent that is a risk being imposed upon communities against their will by government. The risk arises from recent legal and illegal migration that are at enormous levels and are causing unrest in communities. These risks are significantly higher than the normal risk and results in the kind of thing such as the stabbing in Kent and, as seems likely, the stabbings in Southport, as well as the Kurdish man pushing a stranger off a platform. In Germany young male migrants may have significantly contributed to a dramatic rise in crime. Not to mention that in many backward foreign cultures mental health is seen as a source of shame, hence the desire to offload sufferers elsewhere. Very true but the left are only too willing for us all all to shoulder that responsibility. Well largely we do not want to and in reality we do not have to irrespective of what international law may try to impose on us. All that has to be done is make those who are supposed to be OUR protectors and representatives understand that as well and very few avenues are being left for that to work. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 1, 2024 11:14:05 GMT
Not to mention that in many backward foreign cultures mental health is seen as a source of shame, hence the desire to offload sufferers elsewhere. Very true but the left are only too willing for us all all to shoulder that responsibility. Well largely we do not want to and in reality we do not have to irrespective of what international law may try to impose on us. All that has to be done is make those who are supposed to be OUR protectors and representatives understand that as well and very few avenues are being left for that to work. Indeed. They don't serve us and have no interest in doing so. That's why violence will increasingly be seen as the only way to effect change. Still, at least immigrant "Communities" have taught us that. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 1, 2024 11:32:13 GMT
Last night during the relitively small demonstration in Whitehall, no vandalism took place, no police cars were tipped over, no busses set on fire. Yet riot police in full riot kit - helmets batons shields, steamed into the crowd and arrested no fewar than 110 people.
Compare this to the recent riot in Harehills in which the main protagonists were clearly Asians, and the police stood back and eventually ran away.
It must be increasingly difficult for the excuse of a Home Secretary and senior police officers to say, with a straight face, that we do not have two tier policing in this country.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 11:45:00 GMT
Last night during the relitively small demonstration in Whitehall, no vandalism took place, no police cars were tipped over, no busses set on fire. Yet riot police in full riot kit - helmets batons shields, steamed into the crowd and arrested no fewar than 110 people. Compare this to the recent riot in Harehills in which the main protagonists were clearly Asians, and the police stood back and eventually ran away. It must be increasingly difficult for the excuse of a Home Secretary and senior police officers to say, with a straight face, that we do not have two tier policing in this country. It’s noticed and people are not afraid to point it out now. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 1, 2024 11:59:13 GMT
Last night during the relitively small demonstration in Whitehall, no vandalism took place, no police cars were tipped over, no busses set on fire. Yet riot police in full riot kit - helmets batons shields, steamed into the crowd and arrested no fewar than 110 people. Compare this to the recent riot in Harehills in which the main protagonists were clearly Asians, and the police stood back and eventually ran away. It must be increasingly difficult for the excuse of a Home Secretary and senior police officers to say, with a straight face, that we do not have two tier policing in this country. It’s noticed and people are not afraid to point it out now. The judge who has just named the Southport killer said the recent trouble in various locations is because there is a 'vacuum of information'. Perhaps this was a criticism of the police who withhold any information that may in any way be regarded as negative, if it refers to any minority. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 1, 2024 12:11:39 GMT
It’s noticed and people are not afraid to point it out now. The judge who has just named the Southport killer said the recent trouble in various locations is because there is a 'vacuum of information'. Perhaps this was a criticism of the police who withhold any information that may in any way be regarded as negative, if it refers to any minority. The police weren't allowed to name him by law, as he was under 18, not because he is black. You knew that. The judge has now ruled that he can be named. You are deliberately making disinformation here. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 1, 2024 12:21:08 GMT
we are in this situation purely because people are angry at what the political class has done to this country.. So who else should people blame? What is the connection to "what the political class has done" to the stabbings in Southport? Unless you know something that we don't know? Admitting hundreds of thousands or millions of essentially unassimilable third-worlders of low SES and of widely differing moral perspectives was bound to have malevolent side-effects, wouldn't you agree?
If yes, who do you believe is responsible if not the political class?
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 1, 2024 12:27:27 GMT
The judge who has just named the Southport killer said the recent trouble in various locations is because there is a 'vacuum of information'. Perhaps this was a criticism of the police who withhold any information that may in any way be regarded as negative, if it refers to any minority. The police weren't allowed to name him by law, as he was under 18, not because he is black. You knew that. The judge has now ruled that he can be named. You are deliberately making disinformation here. Don't talk bloody rubbish. The judge, Andrew Menary KC, was less than complimentary on what he referred to as a vacuum of information. He said the unrest in parts of the UK after the Southport attack was one reason why it was in the public interest for his name to be released. The police could have asked the court for permission to release his name at the time of arrest, but chose not to. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 1, 2024 13:00:43 GMT
Quite. The mullahs target these thickos to use as cannon fodder. Religion is just the means of control. A method that's as old as the hills. Left wing politics works the exact same way. Is there some kind of relationship or connection between illegal immigrants and the topic we are here debating. ? I thought we were debating the murder of three children by a 17 year old youth who was born in Cardiff It's a matter of multiculturalism not working. These people were from a VERY different culture - and I spent years living in Africa. Don't expect them to behave like people brought up in England because they simply don't. But the main question here is whether the killer had been radicalised by islam. The police are keeping very quiet about this. My guess - and it is a guess - is that this person had been radicalised. The reason I say that is because the MO of the atrocity that he has committed is a typically muslim one. He has used knives and has targeted an event where mainly white girls are dancing to a pop star - think about the Manchester Arena attack and the Battaclan. Unfortunately the police - and the govt - are trying to deny us all the facts - just like with that soldier who was stabbed a few weeks ago. It won't work. You can't hide this stuff in the internet age. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 1, 2024 13:16:33 GMT
Is there some kind of relationship or connection between illegal immigrants and the topic we are here debating. ? I thought we were debating the murder of three children by a 17 year old youth who was born in Cardiff It's a matter of multiculturalism not working. These people were from a VERY different culture - and I spent years living in Africa. Don't expect them to behave like people brought up in England because they simply don't. But the main question here is whether the killer had been radicalised by islam. The police are keeping very quiet about this. My guess - and it is a guess - is that this person had been radicalised. The reason I say that is because the MO of the atrocity that he has committed is a typically muslim one. He has used knives and has targeted an event where mainly white girls are dancing to a pop star - think about the Manchester Arena attack and the Battaclan. Unfortunately the police - and the govt - are trying to deny us all the facts - just like with that soldier who was stabbed a few weeks ago. It won't work. You can't hide this stuff in the internet age. "It's a matter of multiculturalism not working" By that logic any murder committed by a white indigenous Brit is a matter of mono-culturalism not working. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 1, 2024 13:25:12 GMT
It's a matter of multiculturalism not working. These people were from a VERY different culture - and I spent years living in Africa. Don't expect them to behave like people brought up in England because they simply don't. But the main question here is whether the killer had been radicalised by islam. The police are keeping very quiet about this. My guess - and it is a guess - is that this person had been radicalised. The reason I say that is because the MO of the atrocity that he has committed is a typically muslim one. He has used knives and has targeted an event where mainly white girls are dancing to a pop star - think about the Manchester Arena attack and the Battaclan. Unfortunately the police - and the govt - are trying to deny us all the facts - just like with that soldier who was stabbed a few weeks ago. It won't work. You can't hide this stuff in the internet age. "It's a matter of multiculturalism not working" By that logic any murder committed by a white indigenous Brit is a matter of mono-culturalism not working. Nope. It would be multiculturalism not working . You know what multiculturalism is dont you ? Here’s a clue …it involves more than one culture |
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