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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 6, 2024 12:36:49 GMT
I'm white and I'm not a victim. Maybe you need to work on your self esteem? Really? Maybe those blacks who complain about ‘ white privilege’should take your advice . Maybe you should tell your Muslim friends that when they kick off . Dry your eyes, no need to get so upset. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 6, 2024 12:38:20 GMT
Really? Maybe those blacks who complain about ‘ white privilege’should take your advice . Maybe you should tell your Muslim friends that when they kick off . Dry your eyes, no need to get so upset. Maybe those blacks who complain about ‘ white privilege’should take your advice . Maybe you should tell your Muslim friends that when they kick off . |
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 6, 2024 12:41:14 GMT
Dead right. I think that Musk is a very over-rated individual but you don't have to be that clever to know more than Starmer. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 6, 2024 12:42:47 GMT
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Post by Bentley on Aug 6, 2024 12:44:19 GMT
Dry your eyes, no need to get so upset. Maybe they kick off more than white prisoners . Maybe white prisoners tend to be more compliant and agreeable than black prisoners . Just bear your advice in mind in case your friends do. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 6, 2024 13:10:41 GMT
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 6, 2024 13:20:36 GMT
Yeap, heard that call live, completely agree. |
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Post by see2 on Aug 6, 2024 14:37:46 GMT
Tom is obviously a very sad opinionated individual. Can you debate what Slater has said or can you only try and "denigrate" him? His comment "elite identitarianism – with its crusades against whiteness and white privilege – has been a recruiting sergeant for a white-identitarian backlash."Is complete and utter hogwash, that exposes his extremely shallow and biased thinking. As for your "denigrate him". My point was made in all honesty, he denigrates himself with his exaggerated comment. |
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Post by see2 on Aug 6, 2024 14:43:11 GMT
Starmer never suggested he wasn't. Its just that violence against Muslims is a specific problem that he was commenting on. |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 6, 2024 19:16:05 GMT
Many things are not recorded, behaviour on arrest and towards staff. There is no record of who resists arrest and the demographics of such. If a group resists arrest ten times more often that another group then seven times the deaths is pretty good outcome. This is the problem with stats one is comparing ethnic deaths with numbers in the population and drawing a simplistic conclusion. Expectations play a role as well and if one's police experience is that black/brown defendants are more often abusive and resistant that will affect your behaviour. Some recent high profile cases show that resisting arrest is to be expected from some and going back police officers have died because they were not careful enough with BAME suspects. Just as an afterthought if we as a country are so discriminatory towards black people why are we adding to the problem in such vast numbers and why would you support such large numbers coming in who will find the system weighted against them in terms of justice and employment. As any sort of cogent policy it just is not. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 6, 2024 19:18:26 GMT
Many things are not recorded, behaviour on arrest and towards staff. There is no record of who resists arrest and the demographics of such. If a group resists arrest ten times more often that another group then seven times the deaths is pretty good outcome. This is the problem with stats one is comparing ethnic deaths with numbers in the population and drawing a simplistic conclusion. Expectations play a role as well and if one's police experience is that black/brown defendants are more often abusive and resistant that will affect your behaviour. Some recent high profile cases show that resisting arrest is to be expected from some and going back police officers have died because they were not careful enough with BAME suspects. Just as an afterthought if we as a country are so discriminatory towards black people why are we adding to the problem in such vast numbers and why would you support such large numbers coming in who will find the system weighted against them in terms of justice and employment. As any sort of cogent policy it just is not. I think statistical data is a more objective indicator of the truth than any one person's opinion. I also think the statistical data I've seen is utterly at odds with the notion that law and order is stacked in favour of ethnic minorities. |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 6, 2024 19:27:03 GMT
Many things are not recorded, behaviour on arrest and towards staff. There is no record of who resists arrest and the demographics of such. If a group resists arrest ten times more often that another group then seven times the deaths is pretty good outcome. This is the problem with stats one is comparing ethnic deaths with numbers in the population and drawing a simplistic conclusion. Expectations play a role as well and if one's police experience is that black/brown defendants are more often abusive and resistant that will affect your behaviour. Some recent high profile cases show that resisting arrest is to be expected from some and going back police officers have died because they were not careful enough with BAME suspects. Just as an afterthought if we as a country are so discriminatory towards black people why are we adding to the problem in such vast numbers and why would you support such large numbers coming in who will find the system weighted against them in terms of justice and employment. As any sort of cogent policy it just is not. I think statistical data is a more objective indicator of the truth than any one person's opinion. I also think the statistical data I've seen is utterly at odds with the notion that law and order is stacked in favour of ethnic minorities. But you have to compare like with like and the parameter chosen is dying in custody under restraint. People are dying in custody under restraint because they are resisting arrest so you have to look at the ethnic breakdown as regards resisting arrest. If the figures show that a black man resisting arrest is seven times more likely to die than a white man resisting arrest I would say yes there is a problem. If the figures show that black people resist arrest in a far greater proportion than white people then the numbers are not as bad as some make out. It is the misuse of stats to create a picture that may not be as accurate or as bad as some would have us believe. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 6, 2024 19:36:54 GMT
Many things are not recorded, behaviour on arrest and towards staff. There is no record of who resists arrest and the demographics of such. If a group resists arrest ten times more often that another group then seven times the deaths is pretty good outcome. This is the problem with stats one is comparing ethnic deaths with numbers in the population and drawing a simplistic conclusion. Expectations play a role as well and if one's police experience is that black/brown defendants are more often abusive and resistant that will affect your behaviour. Some recent high profile cases show that resisting arrest is to be expected from some and going back police officers have died because they were not careful enough with BAME suspects. Just as an afterthought if we as a country are so discriminatory towards black people why are we adding to the problem in such vast numbers and why would you support such large numbers coming in who will find the system weighted against them in terms of justice and employment. As any sort of cogent policy it just is not. So when there's no evidence at all to support your vile claims it is because "many things are not recorded"? Rather than just admit you are talking shite, and making things up to justify your racists agenda? All The Best |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 6, 2024 19:39:58 GMT
I think statistical data is a more objective indicator of the truth than any one person's opinion. I also think the statistical data I've seen is utterly at odds with the notion that law and order is stacked in favour of ethnic minorities. But you have to compare like with like and the parameter chosen is dying in custody under restraint. People are dying in custody under restraint because they are resisting arrest so you have to look at the ethnic breakdown as regards resisting arrest. If the figures show that a black man resisting arrest is seven times more likely to die than a white man resisting arrest I would say yes there is a problem. If the figures show that black people resist arrest in a far greater proportion than white people then the numbers are not as bad as some make out. It is the misuse of stats to create a picture that may not be as accurate or as bad as some would have us believe. Present me with some objective data that says otherwise from a credible source and I will reconsider my position. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 6, 2024 19:50:25 GMT
Soft sentences for White Rioters: www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9900dmxzd8oTwo Months for being involved in a racially motivated riot, and causing criminal damage while doing so is an utter joke. The second guy, involved in public disorder, and in possession of a class A drugs doesn't even go to prison. Those people targeted by these vile scum will, quite rightly, feel let down by the criminal justice system. All The Best |
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