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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 5, 2024 18:27:06 GMT
Also funny how right wingers have suddenly developed a problem with FPTP now it's stopped delivering results they like. I'd be delighted to see an overhaul of our political system happening yesterday. neither wapentake nor myself are right wingers. So what are you gibbering about? both of us have previously voted labour. ive been on forums with wapentake as far back as 2009 , in the dying days of the brown government , and both he and I have long criticised Blair and brown and new labour and the wider fptp system . That doesn't make us right wingers though. do try and think outside your little two party box dear. So if you're so impartial why did you specifically attack the Labour luvvies, which I'm not one of? I've voted Labour, Conservative, Green and Lib Dem in my time. |
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Post by thomas on Aug 5, 2024 18:28:18 GMT
funny how all the labour luvvies keep saying they all disagree wit the dodgy fptp system , and that it needs an overhaul , .....but.....but.....not just now..........( throws obstacles in road to political reform) any news on labour abolishing the House of Lords after a century of promising nearly every election? I'd be delighted to see an overhaul of our political system happening yesterday. ,,,but just not today with keef and new labour in charge.   Im actually enjoying the first month of this latest new labour shit show. its fucking brilliant . we are going to have tons of shit to talk about , blunders , flip flops , you name it over the coming years as political geeks. the tories stab you in the front , while labour put their arms around you and stab you from the back. Hence why they got no mandate from the people , while 80 % wouldn't vote for them. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 5, 2024 18:30:31 GMT
I'd be delighted to see an overhaul of our political system happening yesterday. ,,,but just not today with keef and new labour in charge. Im actually enjoying the first month of this latest new labour shit show. its fucking brilliant . we are going to have tons of shit to talk about , blunders , flip flops , you name it over the coming years as political geeks. the tories stab you in the front , while labour put their arms around you and stab you from the back. Hence why they got no mandate from the people , while 80 % wouldn't vote for them. I literally said I'd be happy to see it happen yesterday. |
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Post by thomas on Aug 5, 2024 18:31:29 GMT
neither wapentake nor myself are right wingers. So what are you gibbering about? both of us have previously voted labour. ive been on forums with wapentake as far back as 2009 , in the dying days of the brown government , and both he and I have long criticised Blair and brown and new labour and the wider fptp system . That doesn't make us right wingers though. do try and think outside your little two party box dear. So if you're so impartial why did you specifically attack the Labour luvvies, which I'm not one of? I've voted Labour, Conservative, Green and Lib Dem in my time. you are making up lies again. A daily tendency of yours. Where did I say im impartial? can you quote me ( won't hold my breath?) I said ive voted labour in the past ( along with many other parties) and im not a tory. I also encouraged you to think outside your little labour good tory bad box. we are in a multi party system now , well everyone is except England , and parties like reform are growing steadily much to labour and tory dismay. you meanwhile seem to be stuck in the mindset if you aren't labour you must be a tory. |
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Post by thomas on Aug 5, 2024 18:32:27 GMT
,,,but just not today with keef and new labour in charge. Im actually enjoying the first month of this latest new labour shit show. its fucking brilliant . we are going to have tons of shit to talk about , blunders , flip flops , you name it over the coming years as political geeks. the tories stab you in the front , while labour put their arms around you and stab you from the back. Hence why they got no mandate from the people , while 80 % wouldn't vote for them. I literally said I'd be happy to see it happen yesterday. so where is your criticism of dear leader starmer and the new labour bosses for not doing anything about it ? over to you? |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 5, 2024 19:01:14 GMT
You miss the point, the actions they have taken will not only not sort the problems out but will add to the problems in a short space of time. That was part of their winning manifesto and people have had enough of jam tomorrow and recall Labour blocking as many Tory initiatives to gain some form of control. So eyes have been opened that were partially clouded with hope an that hope has been dispelled. Again the Tories had 14 years to sort this out and didn't but you're angry at Labour for not sorting it in 4 weeks? I don't recall them committing to have it all sorted in 4 weeks in their manifesto either. And again no one expected them to but what they did expect was whatever action was taken would point to the problems being sorted. Instead the actions taken only increase the current problems and are not designed to tackle the problems at all. What they have indicated is a big Fuck you to the general public. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 5, 2024 19:22:06 GMT
I literally said I'd be happy to see it happen yesterday. so where is your criticism of dear leader starmer and the new labour bosses for not doing anything about it ? over to you? I do indeed despair of Starmer for not committing to electoral and constitutional reform. I think he was too timid in his approach to the GE albeit I can understand why. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 5, 2024 19:22:40 GMT
Again the Tories had 14 years to sort this out and didn't but you're angry at Labour for not sorting it in 4 weeks? I don't recall them committing to have it all sorted in 4 weeks in their manifesto either. And again no one expected them to but what they did expect was whatever action was taken would point to the problems being sorted. Instead the actions taken only increase the current problems and are not designed to tackle the problems at all. What they have indicated is a big Fuck you to the general public. What actions have they undertaken to increase the problems? |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 5, 2024 19:24:01 GMT
So if you're so impartial why did you specifically attack the Labour luvvies, which I'm not one of? I've voted Labour, Conservative, Green and Lib Dem in my time. you are making up lies again. A daily tendency of yours. Where did I say im impartial? can you quote me ( won't hold my breath?) I said ive voted labour in the past ( along with many other parties) and im not a tory. I also encouraged you to think outside your little labour good tory bad box. we are in a multi party system now , well everyone is except England , and parties like reform are growing steadily much to labour and tory dismay. you meanwhile seem to be stuck in the mindset if you aren't labour you must be a tory. You say I should think outside of my labour good Tory bad box even though you've attacked me for being Labour which I'm not. Ok..... |
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Post by witchfinder on Aug 5, 2024 20:01:53 GMT
Again the Tories had 14 years to sort this out and didn't but you're angry at Labour for not sorting it in 4 weeks? I don't recall them committing to have it all sorted in 4 weeks in their manifesto either. And again no one expected them to but what they did expect was whatever action was taken would point to the problems being sorted. Instead the actions taken only increase the current problems and are not designed to tackle the problems at all. What they have indicated is a big Fuck you to the general public. What Labour have begun to do is ... exactly what it says on the box In other words, precisely what they said they would do during the election The Home Secretary is setting up the new Immigration & Border Command unit The Energy Secretary has appointed Anglo-Austrian business man Jurgen Maier as Chairman of Great British Energy VAT will be applied to private school fees as of January 1st, and all the capital raised will be invested in state education. Our appaling privatised train services are going to be nationalised I hope and expect that the Chancellor will raise CGT or other taxes, or raid excessive profits on energy and giant petro-chemical companies to raise money to repair the damage to our NHS. The pussy footing around planning and the need to build more homes, including both Social Homes and Low Cost Homes is going to come to an end, which in turn will be a catalyst for growth. |
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 5, 2024 20:26:36 GMT
Looting shops is the opportunists that always pop up in a riot, no belief just help themselves. If it was only a few hundred it would not matter they will be in prison soon but in places like Aldershot and Rotherham the target was quite direct it was asylum hotels that people have been saying they do not want for four years now, they have not been listened to and it is patently obvious Labour will do little to stem the flow and pop up hotels with unknown guests will appear everywhere irrespective of the wishes of the locals. Labour are moving with their inbuilt authoritarianism that comes with the left. Brexit was a case in point, every legal and Constitutional means was tried to stop Brexit and eventually it came about in a half hearted way that leaves wide open the return door that Starmer has his eye on. For many people the country is being destroyed before their very eyes and what happens when people perceive that? They do not always just roll over So if there was something about you I didn't like would it be OK for me to find where you live and throw bricks though your windows? No, of course it wouldn't. Stop using piss-poor lame arguments to defend the indefensible, and just admit it is undefensible. Why are you trying to conflate tis with Brexit. Starmer has stated Brexit is over and done with? This country is being destroyed before my very eyes - by the fuckwit thugs YOU are defending. All The Best Were the poll tax riots indefensible? |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 5, 2024 21:54:56 GMT
Have I insulted you or PV ? That’ll be a no,I rest my case. No, but you haven't pulled up anyone who has. As far as I am aware, nobody has elected wapentake as forum policeman - he is free to comment (or not) on whatever he likes. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 5, 2024 22:12:28 GMT
No, but you haven't pulled up anyone who has. As far as I am aware, nobody has elected wapentake as forum policeman - he is free to comment (or not) on whatever he likes. Ah, but you are Forum Police. Not only do you turn a blind eye to what might be termed race-baiting, you sometime actually engage in it. Is that a tenable position for someone who is supposed not only to uphold the forum rules, but also by extension the pro-boards ToS; both of which prohibit such behaviour? Since the Southport stabbing the forum has been knee deep in this stuff and you have done precisely NOTHING about it. All The Best |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 5, 2024 22:18:40 GMT
As far as I am aware, nobody has elected wapentake as forum policeman - he is free to comment (or not) on whatever he likes.
Not only do you turn a blind eye to what might be termed race-baiting, you sometime actually engage in it. Is that a tenable position for someone who is supposed not only to uphold the forum rules, but also by extension the pro-boards ToS; both of which prohibit such behaviour? No I am not - the purpose of a moderator is not to trawl the forum looking for posts to be outraged by. If you have a complaint about a particular post then it is up to you to report it. If you do then the moderation team will consider that complaint and come to a decision. I dont determine any complaints unilaterally. You are free to report any post by any moderator - FWIW I have never had any of my posts reported. Hope that helps. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 5, 2024 22:20:54 GMT
Ah, but you are Forum Police.
Not only do you turn a blind eye to what might be termed race-baiting, you sometime actually engage in it. Is that a tenable position for someone who is supposed not only to uphold the forum rules, but also by extension the pro-boards ToS; both of which prohibit such behaviour? No I am not - the purpose of a moderator is not to trawl the forum looking for posts to be outraged by. If you have a complaint about a particular post then it is up to you to report it. If you do then the moderation team will consider that complaint and come to a decision. I dont determine any complaints unilaterally. You are free to report any post by any moderator - FWIW I have never had any of my posts reported.Hope that helps. Well of course you haven't. 85% of the forum membership is far-right racists circle-jerking one another about how offensive they can be. All The Best |
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Im actually enjoying the first month of this latest new labour shit show. 
