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Post by Bentley on Aug 5, 2024 22:28:27 GMT
As far as I am aware, nobody has elected wapentake as forum policeman - he is free to comment (or not) on whatever he likes. Ah, but you are Forum Police. Not only do you turn a blind eye to what might be termed race-baiting, you sometime actually engage in it. Is that a tenable position for someone who is supposed not only to uphold the forum rules, but also by extension the pro-boards ToS; both of which prohibit such behaviour? Since the Southport stabbing the forum has been knee deep in this stuff and you have done precisely NOTHING about it. All The Best Really? You and the other lefties seem to incapable of seeing the disturbances as nothing other than white racist Nazis running amok. The only race that is being baited on this forum is white people.,,from lefties refusing to accept an English phrase to posting dumb shit claiming the white protesters are hypocrites because they aren’t rioting over child protection and Catholic priests.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 5, 2024 22:31:34 GMT
No I am not - the purpose of a moderator is not to trawl the forum looking for posts to be outraged by. If you have a complaint about a particular post then it is up to you to report it. If you do then the moderation team will consider that complaint and come to a decision. I dont determine any complaints unilaterally. You are free to report any post by any moderator - FWIW I have never had any of my posts reported.Hope that helps. Well of course you haven't. 85% of the forum membership is far-right racists circle-jerking one another about how offensive they can be. All The Best If they are then there is a smaller membership of leftie betwetters circle jerking each other about how offended they are by those beastly righties .
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 5, 2024 23:00:56 GMT
Ah, but you are Forum Police. Not only do you turn a blind eye to what might be termed race-baiting, you sometime actually engage in it. Is that a tenable position for someone who is supposed not only to uphold the forum rules, but also by extension the pro-boards ToS; both of which prohibit such behaviour? Since the Southport stabbing the forum has been knee deep in this stuff and you have done precisely NOTHING about it. All The Best Really? You and the other lefties seem to incapable of seeing the disturbances as nothing other than white racist Nazis running amok. The only race that is being baited on this forum is white people.,,from lefties refusing to accept an English phrase to posting dumb shit claiming the white protesters are hypocrites because they aren’t rioting over child protection and Catholic priests.IIRC no one has said they are hypocrites. What I have said is they clearly are not remotely interested in protecting children - there were children in the Asylum Hostel after all. So once you've taken away the rather obvious lie that is claimed to be the reason behind their actions what is left? 1) A desire to use anything at all as an excuse to kick off, have a riot, do a bit of looting - in which case they are criminal scum, and need locking up ASAP. 2) A desire to use anything at all to try and justify attacks on people based on nothing more than the colour of their skin - in which case they are racist criminal scum and need locking up ASAP. Because NO ONE in that Asylum Hostel was even remotely involved in the Southport Stabbing. Punishing people for something they didn't do is entirely antithetical to British values - it defies the core principle of innocent until proven guilty. Punishing a group of people because they are "guilty by association" because of something like race or religion not only defies "innocent until proven guilty" but is, de jure, a crime against humanity. There is no way that these thugs come out of this looking like anything other than Criminal Scum, that is the very best they can hope for; next best option in Racist Criminal Scum, and after that we have Terrorist Organisation Involved In Crimes Against Humanity. Is there anybody here who genuinely thinks that anyone who really cares about "British Cultural Values" could find that in anyway at all defensible? All The Best
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 5, 2024 23:03:37 GMT
Well of course you haven't. 85% of the forum membership is far-right racists circle-jerking one another about how offensive they can be. All The Best If they are then there is a smaller membership of leftie betwetters circle jerking each other about how offended they are by those beastly righties . Not even remotely offended by "beastly righties" - been accused of it myself numerous times. I am offended by Criminal Scum trying to take over our streets. All The Best
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Post by Bentley on Aug 5, 2024 23:11:54 GMT
If they are then there is a smaller membership of leftie betwetters circle jerking each other about how offended they are by those beastly righties . Not even remotely offended by "beastly righties" - been accused of it myself numerous times. I am offended by Criminal Scum trying to take over our streets. All The Best I’m am merely looking at the situation through the same simplistic, sanctimonious lens that you used.
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 6, 2024 4:39:14 GMT
Really? You and the other lefties seem to incapable of seeing the disturbances as nothing other than white racist Nazis running amok. The only race that is being baited on this forum is white people.,,from lefties refusing to accept an English phrase to posting dumb shit claiming the white protesters are hypocrites because they aren’t rioting over child protection and Catholic priests.IIRC no one has said they are hypocrites. What I have said is they clearly are not remotely interested in protecting children - there were children in the Asylum Hostel after all. So once you've taken away the rather obvious lie that is claimed to be the reason behind their actions what is left? 1) A desire to use anything at all as an excuse to kick off, have a riot, do a bit of looting - in which case they are criminal scum, and need locking up ASAP. 2) A desire to use anything at all to try and justify attacks on people based on nothing more than the colour of their skin - in which case they are racist criminal scum and need locking up ASAP. Because NO ONE in that Asylum Hostel was even remotely involved in the Southport Stabbing. Punishing people for something they didn't do is entirely antithetical to British values - it defies the core principle of innocent until proven guilty. Punishing a group of people because they are "guilty by association" because of something like race or religion not only defies "innocent until proven guilty" but is, de jure, a crime against humanity. There is no way that these thugs come out of this looking like anything other than Criminal Scum, that is the very best they can hope for; next best option in Racist Criminal Scum, and after that we have Terrorist Organisation Involved In Crimes Against Humanity. Is there anybody here who genuinely thinks that anyone who really cares about "British Cultural Values" could find that in anyway at all defensible? All The Best "We're consistently told we must condemn "Asian grooming gangs". We're told we must condemn "Islamist extremists". We're told we must condemn "left-wing/liberal elites". Fine. Then we're going to call out far-right racists too. However uncomfortable that makes their apologists." x.com/DPJHodges/status/1820565688337285181?t=yoDd7gMjD0aLlbrsQRzdew&s=19
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 6, 2024 6:42:23 GMT
No I am not - the purpose of a moderator is not to trawl the forum looking for posts to be outraged by. If you have a complaint about a particular post then it is up to you to report it. If you do then the moderation team will consider that complaint and come to a decision. I dont determine any complaints unilaterally. You are free to report any post by any moderator - FWIW I have never had any of my posts reported.Hope that helps. Well of course you haven't. 85% of the forum membership is far-right racists circle-jerking one another about how offensive they can be. All The Best I can give you directions to another forum where only left-wing posters circle-jerking one another is allowed if you wish. Here to help.
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Post by sandypine on Aug 6, 2024 6:47:37 GMT
Really? You and the other lefties seem to incapable of seeing the disturbances as nothing other than white racist Nazis running amok. The only race that is being baited on this forum is white people.,,from lefties refusing to accept an English phrase to posting dumb shit claiming the white protesters are hypocrites because they aren’t rioting over child protection and Catholic priests.IIRC no one has said they are hypocrites. What I have said is they clearly are not remotely interested in protecting children - there were children in the Asylum Hostel after all. So once you've taken away the rather obvious lie that is claimed to be the reason behind their actions what is left? 1) A desire to use anything at all as an excuse to kick off, have a riot, do a bit of looting - in which case they are criminal scum, and need locking up ASAP. 2) A desire to use anything at all to try and justify attacks on people based on nothing more than the colour of their skin - in which case they are racist criminal scum and need locking up ASAP. Because NO ONE in that Asylum Hostel was even remotely involved in the Southport Stabbing. Punishing people for something they didn't do is entirely antithetical to British values - it defies the core principle of innocent until proven guilty. Punishing a group of people because they are "guilty by association" because of something like race or religion not only defies "innocent until proven guilty" but is, de jure, a crime against humanity. There is no way that these thugs come out of this looking like anything other than Criminal Scum, that is the very best they can hope for; next best option in Racist Criminal Scum, and after that we have Terrorist Organisation Involved In Crimes Against Humanity. Is there anybody here who genuinely thinks that anyone who really cares about "British Cultural Values" could find that in anyway at all defensible? All The Best Actually if you look at many of the demonstrations outside Asylum Hotels many of the signs say save our children. At Aldershot the police confirmed it was only a very small minority of 200 people who were involved in the disturbance but all are now lumped in with that group of seven. The opportunity to tar all demonstrators has been jumped on with alacrity by government as it is a false message but one that people can be demonised with and all legitimate claims denounced as racist and bigoted and thuggish and here we see it in this post.
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Post by thomas on Aug 6, 2024 7:11:05 GMT
so where is your criticism of dear leader starmer and the new labour bosses for not doing anything about it ? over to you? I do indeed despair of Starmer for not committing to electoral and constitutional reform. I think he was too timid in his approach to the GE albeit I can understand why. ah so once again no criticism of labour , just more empty vacuous words of mild dissapointment? you can understand why? For Englands Westminster parliament , you have a two horse race propped up by a disgraceful dodgy electoral system that awards one horse double the seats per its votes . one horse fell at the first hurdle , the jockey in a hedge , all its legs broken , and all the second horse had to do was walk to the finish line , and you tell me you understand why he was too timid? Labour are despised. They have no politicians of calibre. No visionaries. No polices of merit , and so far , the few things we have seen in the first month are a house building policy on a wing and a prayer , while slashing and burning old peoples winter fuel payments and keeping benefit caps. starmers timidity means people have no faith or hope in him. Its a self defeating cycle , rinse and repeat of the same tory policies of the last 14 years which were largely despised , perhaps a fag papers width to the left , and you wonder why people are rioting? Whats the response from labour? right wing , racists , and all the old tropes we are bored to death of while having not one iota of ability to deal with the issues at hand? I cant understand why starmer was too timid. If you do , then I can only assume you realise the uk , its parliament , and its political system are beyond saving , its problems structural and long term , and more importantly , it shows to me you have zero faith in starmer and labour , and are merely going through the motions while kidding yourself on at least they aren't the blue tories.
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 6, 2024 7:12:12 GMT
IIRC no one has said they are hypocrites. What I have said is they clearly are not remotely interested in protecting children - there were children in the Asylum Hostel after all. So once you've taken away the rather obvious lie that is claimed to be the reason behind their actions what is left? 1) A desire to use anything at all as an excuse to kick off, have a riot, do a bit of looting - in which case they are criminal scum, and need locking up ASAP. 2) A desire to use anything at all to try and justify attacks on people based on nothing more than the colour of their skin - in which case they are racist criminal scum and need locking up ASAP. Because NO ONE in that Asylum Hostel was even remotely involved in the Southport Stabbing. Punishing people for something they didn't do is entirely antithetical to British values - it defies the core principle of innocent until proven guilty. Punishing a group of people because they are "guilty by association" because of something like race or religion not only defies "innocent until proven guilty" but is, de jure, a crime against humanity. There is no way that these thugs come out of this looking like anything other than Criminal Scum, that is the very best they can hope for; next best option in Racist Criminal Scum, and after that we have Terrorist Organisation Involved In Crimes Against Humanity. Is there anybody here who genuinely thinks that anyone who really cares about "British Cultural Values" could find that in anyway at all defensible? All The Best "We're consistently told we must condemn "Asian grooming gangs". We're told we must condemn "Islamist extremists". We're told we must condemn "left-wing/liberal elites". Fine. Then we're going to call out far-right racists too. However uncomfortable that makes their apologists." x.com/DPJHodges/status/1820565688337285181?t=yoDd7gMjD0aLlbrsQRzdew&s=19Yeah okay Dan. And we'll do what the likes of you and the other Islamoleft hardliners do when when we're calling out extreme - Islamic/left-wing/liberal elites. We'll sit back, watch and saying nothing. Seeing as we don't get to do this as often as you, we can now practice the art of turning the other cheek.
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Post by thomas on Aug 6, 2024 7:17:15 GMT
you are making up lies again. A daily tendency of yours. Where did I say im impartial? can you quote me ( won't hold my breath?) I said ive voted labour in the past ( along with many other parties) and im not a tory. I also encouraged you to think outside your little labour good tory bad box. we are in a multi party system now , well everyone is except England , and parties like reform are growing steadily much to labour and tory dismay. you meanwhile seem to be stuck in the mindset if you aren't labour you must be a tory. You say I should think outside of my labour good Tory bad box even though you've attacked me for being Labour which I'm not. Ok..... yet you seem to spend exceptional time on this forum defending labour and the status quo , while attacking right wingers ( which appears to mean anyone not on board the labour bandwagon from snp , alba , liberals , tory , reform all the way over to the bnp or other such parties and groups of the far right ) you tell me you dont support the fptp system , while paying a bit of lip service when forced to about criticising it. Right ho.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 6, 2024 7:29:06 GMT
No I am not - the purpose of a moderator is not to trawl the forum looking for posts to be outraged by. If you have a complaint about a particular post then it is up to you to report it. If you do then the moderation team will consider that complaint and come to a decision. I dont determine any complaints unilaterally. You are free to report any post by any moderator - FWIW I have never had any of my posts reported.Hope that helps. Well of course you haven't. 85% of the forum membership is far-right racists circle-jerking one another about how offensive they can be. All The Best All I’ll say is a moderators lot is like a coppers lot in the present situation not a happy one. A forum is like a pub,it has its regulars if you don’t like the atmosphere you can complain to the landlord find another pub or open your own.
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 6, 2024 7:37:03 GMT
I do indeed despair of Starmer for not committing to electoral and constitutional reform. I think he was too timid in his approach to the GE albeit I can understand why. ah so once again no criticism of labour , just more empty vacuous words of mild dissapointment? you can understand why? For Englands Westminster parliament , you have a two horse race propped up by a disgraceful dodgy electoral system that awards one horse double the seats per its votes . one horse fell at the first hurdle , the jockey in a hedge , all its legs broken , and all the second horse had to do was walk to the finish line , and you tell me you understand why he was too timid? Labour are despised. They have no politicians of calibre. No visionaries. No polices of merit , and so far , the few things we have seen in the first month are a house building policy on a wing and a prayer , while slashing and burning old peoples winter fuel payments and keeping benefit caps. starmers timidity means people have no faith or hope in him. Its a self defeating cycle , rinse and repeat of the same tory policies of the last 14 years which were largely despised , perhaps a fag papers width to the left , and you wonder why people are rioting? Whats the response from labour? right wing , racists , and all the old tropes we are bored to death of while having not one iota of ability to deal with the issues at hand? I cant understand why starmer was too timid. If you do , then I can only assume you realise the uk , its parliament , and its political system are beyond saving , its problems structural and long term , and more importantly , it shows to me you have zero faith in starmer and labour , and are merely going through the motions while kidding yourself on at least they aren't the blue tories. So I said I despair of Starmer and he was too timid and you say I have no criticism of Labour. You seem determined to attack a strawnan version of me that only exists in your head, I'll leave you to it.
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 6, 2024 7:38:17 GMT
Ah, but you are Forum Police. Not only do you turn a blind eye to what might be termed race-baiting, you sometime actually engage in it. Is that a tenable position for someone who is supposed not only to uphold the forum rules, but also by extension the pro-boards ToS; both of which prohibit such behaviour? Since the Southport stabbing the forum has been knee deep in this stuff and you have done precisely NOTHING about it. All The Best Really? You and the other lefties seem to incapable of seeing the disturbances as nothing other than white racist Nazis running amok. The only race that is being baited on this forum is white people.,,from lefties refusing to accept an English phrase to posting dumb shit claiming the white protesters are hypocrites because they aren’t rioting over child protection and Catholic priests. Sounds like a victim mentality.
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Post by thomas on Aug 6, 2024 7:41:02 GMT
ah so once again no criticism of labour , just more empty vacuous words of mild dissapointment? you can understand why? For Englands Westminster parliament , you have a two horse race propped up by a disgraceful dodgy electoral system that awards one horse double the seats per its votes . one horse fell at the first hurdle , the jockey in a hedge , all its legs broken , and all the second horse had to do was walk to the finish line , and you tell me you understand why he was too timid? Labour are despised. They have no politicians of calibre. No visionaries. No polices of merit , and so far , the few things we have seen in the first month are a house building policy on a wing and a prayer , while slashing and burning old peoples winter fuel payments and keeping benefit caps. starmers timidity means people have no faith or hope in him. Its a self defeating cycle , rinse and repeat of the same tory policies of the last 14 years which were largely despised , perhaps a fag papers width to the left , and you wonder why people are rioting? Whats the response from labour? right wing , racists , and all the old tropes we are bored to death of while having not one iota of ability to deal with the issues at hand? I cant understand why starmer was too timid. If you do , then I can only assume you realise the uk , its parliament , and its political system are beyond saving , its problems structural and long term , and more importantly , it shows to me you have zero faith in starmer and labour , and are merely going through the motions while kidding yourself on at least they aren't the blue tories. So I said I despair of Starmer and he was too timid and you say I have no criticism of Labour. You seem determined to attack a strawnan version of me that only exists in your head, I'll leave you to it. all over the world historically , great wrongs have been righted by people saying " I despair"............
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