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Post by wapentake on Aug 4, 2024 16:49:33 GMT
110% correct, I was trying to put it in to words, but you've done it admirably, thomas. I see that you continue to persist with your racist shite The youth who murdered the three girls is not a criminal because he's black, or because his parents were born in Africa. He's a criminal because he is either criminally minded or has mental health issues, or both. White people can be criminally minded, English born people who's roots go back 2000 years in England can be murderers, child killers or evil, nasty people. Why oh why do you have to attempt to make a link with been black, and the fact that he murdered three innocent children. ? You remind me of those Germans in the 1930s who spread as much false propoganda as possible, that Jews were evil, they are not proper humans, they steal the wealth of proper Germans, they are anti-German, they are child molestors. Racist? He just asked how you knew what the youth saw himself as,that’s not racist. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 4, 2024 16:57:53 GMT
dear fucking christ above. Why do so many people like yourself misunderstand nationality? Nationality is a mindset. It isnt a piece of paper like a travel document. How do you know this guy saw himself as welsh? Do you have proof ? A national identity is something that is forged by your ancestry , your family , your upbringing and how these make you think and feel. If you are born in a stable it doesn't make you a horse. " Dear fucking Christ above"... LOL. |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 4, 2024 17:01:45 GMT
You are missing the point - there are numerous examples of the State trying to cover up incidents that go against the policies of the State. We have had a series of knife attacks now on white victims by ethnic perpetrators - so as soon as this attack happened people were speculating about the identity of the perp. Trying to misdirect people by simply saying the guy was Welsh (with the insinuation that he was white) instead of being sensible and open about the facts has now spectacularly blown up. The State has lost trust in large part because of stunts like this. But they never learn. There was no such insinuation. ONLY Racists assume someone being called Welsh means they have to be white. All The Best Dont be daft - do a search for 'welsh man' on Google and all you get is pictures of white geezers like Gareth Bale and Tom Jones. We all know exactly what they were trying to do... |
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Post by thomas on Aug 4, 2024 17:01:55 GMT
110% correct, I was trying to put it in to words, but you've done it admirably, thomas. I see that you continue to persist with your racist shite The youth who murdered the three girls is not a criminal because he's black, or because his parents were born in Africa. He's a criminal because he is either criminally minded or has mental health issues, or both. White people can be criminally minded, English born people who's roots go back 2000 years in England can be murderers, child killers or evil, nasty people. Why oh why do you have to attempt to make a link with been black, and the fact that he murdered three innocent children. ? You remind me of those Germans in the 1930s who spread as much false propoganda as possible, that Jews were evil, they are not proper humans, they steal the wealth of proper Germans, they are anti-German, they are child molestors. who has said any of this? Pacifico made a reasonable point about authorities hiding this killers ethnic background , pro veritas mumbled something about racist and the killer was welsh , and I responded how did he know the killer saw himself as welsh to which fair society agreed with my post? yet another virtue signalling post from a Labour Party drone. can you not address what is being written instead of what you think is being written? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 4, 2024 17:07:29 GMT
110% correct, I was trying to put it in to words, but you've done it admirably, Thomas. there is a guy on this forum who lives in Wales , John of gwent , who sees himself as British. There are English folk on here , vinny , for example , who from interacting with him sees himself as British. There are others who see themselves as English , I and moray loon see ourselves as Scottish. So why does pro veritas assume that a Rwandan couple who give birth to a child in a welsh hospital automatically means that that child sees himself as welsh? The mind fucking boggles at the simplistic tripe the liberal left come out with. Nationality is a complicated idea that really does depend on many factors. we will wait to see though if we have proof of this guy seeing himself as welsh. Exactly, what happens all the boat loads of illegals who are here to freeload, are here to scrounge, what they don't understand that when their offsprings grow up they realise the are different ... they are a different colour, a different religion ... the other children and neighbourhoods treat them accordingly.
They realise, everyone around them is WHITE, they feel ODD, they feel LEFT OUT, then when it completely pisses them off they go on the rampage in anger.
So who is to blame, the parents, or the parents for not teaching them they are going to be brought up in a totally different colour, and religion to their host country, and either they adapt or move back to where they feel the most accepted.
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Post by witchfinder on Aug 4, 2024 17:20:10 GMT
I see that you continue to persist with your racist shite The youth who murdered the three girls is not a criminal because he's black, or because his parents were born in Africa. He's a criminal because he is either criminally minded or has mental health issues, or both. White people can be criminally minded, English born people who's roots go back 2000 years in England can be murderers, child killers or evil, nasty people. Why oh why do you have to attempt to make a link with been black, and the fact that he murdered three innocent children. ? You remind me of those Germans in the 1930s who spread as much false propoganda as possible, that Jews were evil, they are not proper humans, they steal the wealth of proper Germans, they are anti-German, they are child molestors. who has said any of this? Pacifico made a reasonable point about authorities hiding this killers ethnic background , pro veritas mumbled something about racist and the killer was welsh , and I responded how did he know the killer saw himself as welsh to which fair society agreed with my post? yet another virtue signalling post from a Labour Party drone. can you not address what is being written instead of what you think is being written? Downing Street was under attack by opportunists, scumbgs who somehow wanted to attempt to connect the vicious murder of three children with either Muslims, asylum seekers, immigrants or foreigners. This originally was only about the murder of three children, but the hungry Blood Hounds wouldn't rest until they were told whether the culprit was white, or not, or whether the rumours circulating were true, that he was an asylum seeker, OR WORSE ... A Muslim, or a Muslim asylum seeker. Suddenly, the murder of the three innocent children, and the respect of their families and community didn't matter any more. The opportunists, the far right rabble rousers, including the likes of Farage and Tice were onto something, they saw a wonderfull political opportunity here. Somehow, they could try to connect immigration with the murder of these children, a Golden Opportunity for such Rats could not be left to just go by. THAT'S Why Downing Street was under attack - and there are posters here on these boards who also decided that there is opportunity here to further their Nazi opinions, that there is a connection between a terrible murder and black people. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 4, 2024 17:22:39 GMT
Only for paranoid conspiracy theorists looking for any excuse to "blame the darkies". The saner portion of the population was more than willing to wait for things to follow the proper order of events. And again: you have still refused to define what you mean by "background". Educational background? Economic background? What is it, specifically, that YOU mean by "background"? You mention ethnicity, but if it is only about ethnicity then you are effectively admitting being a racist (which should put your position as Moderator here at risk), and are condoning racist actions. Doesn't really matter is driving these riots, they are illegal, and those engaged in them are criminals. All The Best Dont talk absolute bloody rubbish man, Christ almighty wake up. It's hardly a secret that the majority of people have for years wanted immigration cut, a fact publicly accepted by every PM since 2010. Cameron, May, Johnson and Sunak all said immigration should and would come down because they knew that's what the majority wanted, yet under every one of them immigration went up and the majority had to suck it up or be shouted down as racists. Let me tell you something, it was never a case of 'will' mass immigration cause civil unrest, it was always a case of 'when'. Anyone who cant see that is a bloody fool. Starmer is a disgrace, as attorney general he failed to prosecute Pakistani grooming gangs, when BLM were rioting he took the knee, when white English people demonstrate against mass immigration he calls them far right and promises to put them in prison. Starmer is a liar and a minority appeasing extreme lefty. After just four weeks his approval ratings have fallen off a cliff. He wont last 6 months. I WANT IMMIGRATION CUT! What fact was accepted in 2010? What did Cameron do to cut immigration? Nothing. What did May do to cut immigration? Nothing. What did Johnson do to cut immigration? Proposed a plan he knew couldn't work? What did Truss to cut immigration? Tried to tank the economy so badly no one would want to come here. What did Sunak do to cut immigration? Tried to implement Johnson's Plan, that everyone knew couldn't work. End result? Only one migrant sent to Rwanda - we bribed him to go. £1.8 Million per migrant sent, IF we actually sent as many as Rwanda had places for, but we didn't. Apparently a £6.4 Billion cost hidden in the weeds by the Tories. Immigration still on the rise. Why? Because our Capitalist Economy DEMANDS ever more migrant workers to depress wage inflation and drive up the cost of living, ensuring an increase in profits without the need to invest in improving goods or services. You want to cut immigration? Look at the real cause. NOT Politics, but Economics. Yes, obviously mass immigration will cause unrest - that was inevitable. What next, are you going to tell me water might be wet? I share the concerns of most people regarding immigration. The difference between me and most of them? 1) I believe in the Rule Of Law. 2) I am not fucking stupid enough to think Immigration is driven by Political causes. 3) I am smart enough to realise Immigration is driven by ECONOMIC causes. Thatcher's and Major's Tory government tried exporting all real jobs (not service sector) abroad - to low wage, low regulation regions to drive up profits for the people who really make all the important decisions. That didn't work, far too many people saw what was coming and stood against it. Bit those people who make all the real decisions still want that low wage, low regulation economy to drive up profits. How to get that? A) Import excess labour, to depress wages, deter industrial action, and drive up living costs. B) Create a bête noir that will have idiots clamouring to exit the ECHR so that all those workers rights, consumer rights etc can be swatted aside to create more profits. Johnson and Sunak came up with the Rwanda Plan and pursued implementing it for ONE reason only; not that it would work, they knew it couldn't work from the get go, but to create a reason to have useful idiots clamouring to the leave the ECHR. Do you know what one of the rights that was subsumed by the ECHR is? The right to be fairly compensated for your work. All The Best |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 4, 2024 17:27:42 GMT
Dont upset the official narrative...  |
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Post by thomas on Aug 4, 2024 17:28:46 GMT
who has said any of this? Pacifico made a reasonable point about authorities hiding this killers ethnic background , pro veritas mumbled something about racist and the killer was welsh , and I responded how did he know the killer saw himself as welsh to which fair society agreed with my post? yet another virtue signalling post from a Labour Party drone. can you not address what is being written instead of what you think is being written? Downing Street was under attack by opportunists, scumbgs who somehow wanted to attempt to connect the vicious murder of three children with either Muslims, asylum seekers, immigrants or foreigners. This originally was only about the murder of three children, but the hungry Blood Hounds wouldn't rest until they were told whether the culprit was white, or not, or whether the rumours circulating were true, that he was an asylum seeker, OR WORSE ... A Muslim, or a Muslim asylum seeker. Suddenly, the murder of the three innocent children, and the respect of their families and community didn't matter any more. The opportunists, the far right rabble rousers, including the likes of Farage and Tice were onto something, they saw a wonderfull political opportunity here. Somehow, they could try to connect immigration with the murder of these children, a Golden Opportunity for such Rats could not be left to just go by. THAT'S Why Downing Street was under attack - and there are posters here on these boards who also decided that there is opportunity here to further their Nazi opinions, that there is a connection between a terrible murder and black people. you are ranting again sid. stop jabbing at the keyboard in your spittle flecked virtue signalling anger , take a deep breath , and sit back for a moment and read what is being written not what you think is being written. Then go to my previous post to you , and follow what I have said regarding Pacificos post onwards. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 4, 2024 17:29:01 GMT
There was no such insinuation. ONLY Racists assume someone being called Welsh means they have to be white. All The Best dear fucking christ above. Why do so many people like yourself misunderstand nationality? Nationality is a mindset. . No it isn't. When declaring nationality on any official form, it is NOT about what you think, but it IS about where you were born. FFS, are people really this thick? For example, you keep invoking Christ, even though Christianity is NOT the native religion of the British Isles; it is an Invader Religion, much like people like you claim Islam is. So why is Islam bad but Christianity acceptable? That are both vile, sexist, invader religions that should not be tolerated. People like you often mention the Asian Grooming Gangs and all the children they sexually abused. Asians would have to implement one Rotherham a week for the next 50 years to reach the kind of tally the Catholic Church has in relation to sexually abusing children. What aren't you calling for the abolishment of the Catholic Church? All The Best |
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Post by thomas on Aug 4, 2024 17:41:50 GMT
dear fucking christ above. Why do so many people like yourself misunderstand nationality? Nationality is a mindset. . No it isn't. When declaring nationality on any official form, it is NOT about what you think, but it IS about where you were born. FFS, are people really this thick? so for example what nationality is Boris Johnson based on your criteria? I was born in the southern general in Glasgow . What nationality am I ? on every official form I have ever filled in , I put my nationality on that form .What nationality do you think that is? im not a christian , and using the Glaswegian expletive dear fucking christ to show exasperation at someones obvious stupidity isnt an indicator of supporting christianity nor wether I care about wether its an invader religion. using the quote tags , can you quote me where I have personally said islam is bad? if you cant , then we can assume yet agin this is something you have made up on the hoof , as you have with your quip that this guy saw himself as welsh , and we can dismiss it as normal. why tell me ? im not muslim nor christian. Im addressing your earlier guff about racism , and appointing nationality views to someone you cant possibly know that he holds , not discussing if we should eradicate religion from scotland and England. Start a thread on it. and stop diverting. sigh. Can you show me using the quote tags where I have mentioned asian grooming gangs on this thread? I have specifically dealt with , and told you what my problem was with your earlier posts. Ive haven't mentioned asian grooming gangs , so dont attribute views to me I dont hold. Stop diverting. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 4, 2024 17:45:25 GMT
Dont talk absolute bloody rubbish man, Christ almighty wake up. It's hardly a secret that the majority of people have for years wanted immigration cut, a fact publicly accepted by every PM since 2010. Cameron, May, Johnson and Sunak all said immigration should and would come down because they knew that's what the majority wanted, yet under every one of them immigration went up and the majority had to suck it up or be shouted down as racists. Let me tell you something, it was never a case of 'will' mass immigration cause civil unrest, it was always a case of 'when'. Anyone who cant see that is a bloody fool. Starmer is a disgrace, as attorney general he failed to prosecute Pakistani grooming gangs, when BLM were rioting he took the knee, when white English people demonstrate against mass immigration he calls them far right and promises to put them in prison. Starmer is a liar and a minority appeasing extreme lefty. After just four weeks his approval ratings have fallen off a cliff. He wont last 6 months. I WANT IMMIGRATION CUT! What fact was accepted in 2010? What did Cameron do to cut immigration? Nothing. What did May do to cut immigration? Nothing. What did Johnson do to cut immigration? Proposed a plan he knew couldn't work? What did Truss to cut immigration? Tried to tank the economy so badly no one would want to come here. What did Sunak do to cut immigration? Tried to implement Johnson's Plan, that everyone knew couldn't work. End result? Only one migrant sent to Rwanda - we bribed him to go. £1.8 Million per migrant sent, IF we actually sent as many as Rwanda had places for, but we didn't. Apparently a £6.4 Billion cost hidden in the weeds by the Tories. Immigration still on the rise. Why? Because our Capitalist Economy DEMANDS ever more migrant workers to depress wage inflation and drive up the cost of living, ensuring an increase in profits without the need to invest in improving goods or services. You want to cut immigration? Look at the real cause. NOT Politics, but Economics. Yes, obviously mass immigration will cause unrest - that was inevitable. What next, are you going to tell me water might be wet? I share the concerns of most people regarding immigration. The difference between me and most of them? 1) I believe in the Rule Of Law. 2) I am not fucking stupid enough to think Immigration is driven by Political causes. 3) I am smart enough to realise Immigration is driven by ECONOMIC causes. Thatcher's and Major's Tory government tried exporting all real jobs (not service sector) abroad - to low wage, low regulation regions to drive up profits for the people who really make all the important decisions. That didn't work, far too many people saw what was coming and stood against it. Bit those people who make all the real decisions still want that low wage, low regulation economy to drive up profits. How to get that? A) Import excess labour, to depress wages, deter industrial action, and drive up living costs. B) Create a bête noir that will have idiots clamouring to exit the ECHR so that all those workers rights, consumer rights etc can be swatted aside to create more profits. Johnson and Sunak came up with the Rwanda Plan and pursued implementing it for ONE reason only; not that it would work, they knew it couldn't work from the get go, but to create a reason to have useful idiots clamouring to the leave the ECHR. Do you know what one of the rights that was subsumed by the ECHR is? The right to be fairly compensated for your work. All The Best Did you read my excellent post correctly? Rhetorical perhaps. I pointed out that under all the PM's mentioned immigration went up. I'm uninterested in the ECHR. It's antiquated legislation that is no longer fit for purpose. |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 4, 2024 17:50:59 GMT
It was never measured so how would I know. It is a mix of numbers, events, policies, perceptions and outcomes. The numbers are easily seen in terms of illegal migrants and continuing legal migrants the events are also easily seen both historically and recent events in both Kent and Southport as well as many others; the policies are believed to be as outlined by Labour and actually seen to be enacted by Labour, the outcomes are easily seen in what the country has become. Hang on, you said it was about numbers. Now you are saying you don't know what those numbers are. This really isn't about numbers at all, is it? You are just saying anything to deflect from having to admit the truth. What has this country become? Remember, the Tories have been in power for 14 years; they had ample time to change things, but chose not to. But you are still only blaming Labour. All The Best Of course it is about numbers what you wanted to know was an exact number where the tipping point arrived. However we know that the numbers are increasing and have been increasing quite dramatically and that in our recent past a tipping point arrived for many people That tipping point was affected by other factors including those I outlined. So what the Tories have been in power for 14 years they are part of the same corrupt/incompetent/global/who knows groups who promise the electorate tens of thousands of immigration numbers and deliver in the end millions. All plays into the tipping point. The country has become a largely ungovernable mish mash of cultures each of which demands its own place. I have highlighted frequently that it started in earnest in 97. Labour promised change and are delivering no change, most people realised this immediately. |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 4, 2024 17:58:20 GMT
who has said any of this? Pacifico made a reasonable point about authorities hiding this killers ethnic background , pro veritas mumbled something about racist and the killer was welsh , and I responded how did he know the killer saw himself as welsh to which fair society agreed with my post? yet another virtue signalling post from a Labour Party drone. can you not address what is being written instead of what you think is being written? Downing Street was under attack by opportunists, scumbgs who somehow wanted to attempt to connect the vicious murder of three children with either Muslims, asylum seekers, immigrants or foreigners. This originally was only about the murder of three children, but the hungry Blood Hounds wouldn't rest until they were told whether the culprit was white, or not, or whether the rumours circulating were true, that he was an asylum seeker, OR WORSE ... A Muslim, or a Muslim asylum seeker. Suddenly, the murder of the three innocent children, and the respect of their families and community didn't matter any more. The opportunists, the far right rabble rousers, including the likes of Farage and Tice were onto something, they saw a wonderfull political opportunity here. Somehow, they could try to connect immigration with the murder of these children, a Golden Opportunity for such Rats could not be left to just go by. THAT'S Why Downing Street was under attack - and there are posters here on these boards who also decided that there is opportunity here to further their Nazi opinions, that there is a connection between a terrible murder and black people. Unfortunately there is a direct link between black people and the three murders and 8 attempted murders and these are not isolated incidents as Kent showed us going all the way back to Lee Rigby. Every group commits murders to an unknown level, the random murders mostly on white people seems to come from BAME groups in the main |
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Post by sheepy on Aug 4, 2024 18:04:28 GMT
Well, it seems about one side saying how dare you be angry and the other being very angry and the more they told they better not be angry the more angrier they are getting.
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