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Post by happyhornet3 on Jul 31, 2024 12:57:37 GMT
Plenty of people in your demographic group are homophobic, patriarchal and mysogistic. Your demographic group (Men) are also responsible for most violent crime. Do you accept responsibility for this? Yes but being homophobic, misogynistic and patriarchal is not only part of the culture but demonstrably part of the culture . I accept that men tend to be more violent than women . Do you accept Islam is a homophobic, misogynistic and patriarchal cult? Actually there are people who would argue that homophobia and mysoginy are part of your culture. I don't necessarily agree but I do think we have serious societal problems with both. I don't accept Islam is a homophobic, misogynistic and patriarchal cult. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jul 31, 2024 12:58:25 GMT
So you agree that just as it would be wrong to judge you by the actions of other, violent men, it would be equally wrong to judge ethnic minorities by the actions of other, violent ethnic minorities? Do you read posts or just repeat the same thing ? Ive addressed the point about men being more violent than women . You haven't answered the question. Not all ethnic minorities are Muslims and not all Muslims are ethnic minorities. |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 31, 2024 12:58:33 GMT
I'd suggest that it was the BAME suspect who whipped up hatred when he decided to murder innocent children. Emily Spurrel is another engaged in the type of appeasement where the real victims are passed over and the suspect somehow becomes a victim. And it really needs to stop. You think the idiots who turned up with booze and injured dozens of police officers were putting the victims first? That's the nature of mobs . When the ‘ Roma’ went on the rampage and burned buses and police cars was it the work of Roma rent a mob ? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 31, 2024 12:59:22 GMT
Here's a thing... Just listened to a report about yesterdays trouble in Southport, it seems the police are blaming rumours on social media that claim the killer is a muslim. But here's the kicker, the police refuse to confirm/deny it which is obviously fueling speculation. Well, let's be honest here: When the authorities go all coy over a suspects identity or description it's usually a dead giveaway that the miscreant is Muslim/BAME. So it's a wholly reasonable assumption in this case. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jul 31, 2024 13:00:42 GMT
Here's a thing... Just listened to a report about yesterdays trouble in Southport, it seems the police are blaming rumours on social media that claim the killer is a muslim. But here's the kicker, the police refuse to confirm/deny it which is obviously fueling speculation. Well, let's be honest here: When the authorities go all coy over a suspects identity or description it's usually a dead giveaway that the miscreant is Muslim/BAME. So it's a wholly reasonable assumption in this case. I believe that because of the suspect's age they cannot legally identify him. |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 31, 2024 13:01:36 GMT
Yes but being homophobic, misogynistic and patriarchal is not only part of the culture but demonstrably part of the culture . I accept that men tend to be more violent than women . Do you accept Islam is a homophobic, misogynistic and patriarchal cult? Actually there are people who would argue that homophobia and mysoginy are part of your culture. I don't necessarily agree but I do think we have serious societal problems with both. I don't accept Islam is a homophobic, misogynistic and patriarchal cult. What culture ? There are the women imams, the gay imams, the trans imams ? You must see it . |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 31, 2024 13:10:48 GMT
Well, let's be honest here: When the authorities go all coy over a suspects identity or description it's usually a dead giveaway that the miscreant is Muslim/BAME. So it's a wholly reasonable assumption in this case. I believe that because of the suspect's age they cannot legally identify him. Nonsense, they named Thompson an Venables and they were only 10. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jul 31, 2024 13:15:19 GMT
Actually there are people who would argue that homophobia and mysoginy are part of your culture. I don't necessarily agree but I do think we have serious societal problems with both. I don't accept Islam is a homophobic, misogynistic and patriarchal cult. What culture ? There are the women imams, the gay imams, the trans imams ? You must see it . "Four-fifths of young women in the UK have been sexually harassed, survey finds" www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/10/almost-all-young-women-in-the-uk-have-been-sexually-harassed-survey-findsThat doesn't sound like a cultural problem to you? "In 2010 Raheel Raza became the first Muslim-born woman to lead a mixed-gender British congregation through Friday prayers. Amina Wadud returned to the UK to lead a mixed-gender prayer on March 6, 2015, with Inclusive Mosque Initiative (IMI). IMI was set up in 2012 by Tamsila Tauqir and Dervla Zeynab Shannahan." en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_as_imams#:~:text=In%202010%20Raheel%20Raza%20became,Tauqir%20and%20Dervla%20Zeynab%20Shannahan. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jul 31, 2024 13:15:37 GMT
I believe that because of the suspect's age they cannot legally identify him. Nonsense, they named Thompson an Venables and they were only 10. Which was when? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 31, 2024 13:15:59 GMT
Well, let's be honest here: When the authorities go all coy over a suspects identity or description it's usually a dead giveaway that the miscreant is Muslim/BAME. So it's a wholly reasonable assumption in this case. I believe that because of the suspect's age they cannot legally identify him. Indeed, but considering this particular issue seems to be causing some public concern, the police could confirm or deny the killer is a muslim without identifying him. Yet they choose not to, most people will naturally assume this is because the killer is a muslim and lets be honest, few will be surprised. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 31, 2024 13:16:20 GMT
I believe that because of the suspect's age they cannot legally identify him. Nonsense, they named Thompson an Venables and they were only 10. Good point. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 31, 2024 13:31:20 GMT
I believe that because of the suspect's age they cannot legally identify him. Indeed, but considering this particular issue seems to be causing some public concern, the police could confirm or deny the killer is a muslim without identifying him. Yet they choose not to, most people will naturally assume this is because the killer is a muslim and lets be honest, few will be surprised. That the police may not be able to release details on this occasion is almost by the bye. That they haven't on so many previous occasions is what's fuelling speculation now. |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 31, 2024 13:31:39 GMT
There you go again . You asked “Actually there are people who would argue that homophobia and misogyny are part of your culture.” When I asked ‘ what culture ‘? You post this ..so I’ll ask again ..what culture ? So you are telling me a 7th century cult can’t be deemed misogynistic because a woman led a mixed gender congregation in the UK after 1300 years ? Come back when it’s popular in Afghanistan and Saudi . |
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Post by aristaeus on Jul 31, 2024 13:39:11 GMT
Merseyside’s police and crime commissioner, Emily Spurrell, has said there is a “strong feeling” that members of the English Defence League have used the Southport stabbing to “whip up hatred”. Speaking on ITV’s Good Morning Britain programme, She said: "There is a strong feeling that there are individuals like the EDL, who have been using this incredibly tragic event to whip up hatred, incite violence, and that’s the result of what we saw last night. There is a strong sense that this is people who have come from out-of-area simply to create violence and abuse against officers and towards a community who are not in any way accepting of this behaviour." I'd suggest that it was the BAME suspect who whipped up hatred when he decided to murder innocent children. Emily Spurrel is another engaged in the type of appeasement where the real victims are passed over and the suspect somehow becomes a victim. And it really needs to stop. How is his ethnicity relevant to the crime? Why did you say BAME suspect instead of just suspect? Did you call Lucy Letby a white suspect? Why did EDL members from outside the area come and start trouble and attack a mosque when, if the rumours are true, the suspect is likely to come from a Christian background? It couldn't be that the EDL are using this tragedy for their own ends, could it? |
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Post by aristaeus on Jul 31, 2024 13:44:11 GMT
I believe that because of the suspect's age they cannot legally identify him. Nonsense, they named Thompson an Venables and they were only 10. They were only named after the trial. From the moment of arrest until the trial closed they were referred to as child A and child B. |
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